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Any Christian programmers/web devs out there?

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Any Christian programmers/web devs out there?

I've been programming since I was a child. I did it for paid work not so long ago.

I do a little programming with Autoit and design some websites using Wordpress. I try to make the web design simple so the client can take over.

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I have been trying to learn ActionScript 3 which is the coding language for Adobe Flash.
Take a look at the game I've been trying to develop here:
jz3d.com/WorkProgress/Sower_mockup.swf

Let me know if anyone knows AS3 or Java which is similar and is willing to help.

Thank you!
 
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Any Christian programmers/web devs out there?

I've been programming since I was a child. I did it for paid work not so long ago.

Web Development mainly. I work for the Department of Defense, but also have a personal web design business. At the DoD, I program in C#, ASP.NET (MVC primarily), JAVA at times, though I prefer .NET, and some database work with SQL Server and Oracle. In my personal business, I love designing the UI and mainly program with PHP for the server - or WordPress for CMS apps. In both businesses, I write a lot of JavaScript-rich applications, including various frameworks like KnockoutJS. I prefer the MVC style of programming if possible.
 
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Cool, I do ASP.NET (Webforms), Oracle and SQL Server. I cannot stand either DBMS (they both lack so many features for a so called enterprise DBMS). I prefer Postgresql and Razor Webpages.

I use to do client-side templating especially with KnockoutJS, dotJS but gave it up.
 
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Cool, I do ASP.NET (Webforms), Oracle and SQL Server. I cannot stand either DBMS (they both lack so many features for a so called enterprise DBMS). I prefer Postgresql and Razor Webpages.

I use to do client-side templating especially with KnockoutJS, dotJS but gave it up.
Nice :) . I haven't tried Postgresql - at work we are limited to Oracle 11g and SQL Server - and I use MySQL for small web projects in my persona business. Do you primarily do application development or database work? My favorite part is the client-side coding, but (as a tech lead), I've moved towards working on a bit of all the layers. I get the UI coding when I can though :)
 
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Yeah, we use 11g as well. I primarily work on the database side but also maintain several Web Forms apps. I like working on the database side....prevents those MVC developers from inserting garbage data ;)

Reason I hate Oracle and SQL Server is they don't even support cascades/cyclic cascades (I mean even MySql has it!).

I cannot stand MVC. Please tell me why do I need 3 components (a controller, a view, and a model) just to show a simple page? SEPARATION OF CONCERNS!!!!!


Let me guess, you also use Telerik controls right?
 
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Yeah, we use 11g as well. I primarily work on the database side but also maintain several Web Forms apps. I like working on the database side....prevents those MVC developers from inserting garbage data ;)

Reason I hate Oracle and SQL Server is they don't even support cascades/cyclic cascades (I mean even MySql has it!).

I cannot stand MVC. Please tell me why do I need 3 components (a controller, a view, and a model) just to show a simple page? SEPARATION OF CONCERNS!!!!!


Let me guess, you also use Telerik controls right?
A few years ago, I worked on a project with Telerik controls, but in my current project, we mainly custom code our UI. We have used some plugins like DataTablesJS, Bootstrap and jQuery UI.

Regarding MVC - it is a way to separate concerns though! :) I can control my model separately from the front end view, and I can control the logic of what I should be seeing separately as well. You still have the various layers with MVC.

Now we do a large amount of AJAX web services... so the use of MVC is limited. We have a robust client, nearly independent of server side languages, with the business logic separated, and an Oracle 11g database. We consume a lot of services from different languages (JAVA, .NET - even PL/SQL web services) so it helps to be fairly independent of the back end.

Regarding bad data, have you come across the coders that don't feel like they need to validate server side? we have so many people now that think they can just validate with JavaScript and be totally secure. We always have to keep an eye on what people are doing with that, since we started to get bad data... well, insecure data.
 
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If I have stored procedures written to interface with the apps, why do the developers need to "separate concerns"?

Why do I need to have separate of cocerns below?!?!?!?
@{
dynamic users = DB.ExecuteSP("get_all_users", DB.AddParameter("sort_dir", SortDirection.Asc));
}
<ol>
@foreach(var usr in users) {
<li>
<div>@usr.username</div>
</li>
}
</ol>

Regarding bad data, like for one MVC application where I'm fixing tons of bad data issues, they actually have a table to store users....all the columns are nullable except a user_id LOL!

So if I disable javascript, will your applications work? :)
 
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So if I disable javascript, will your applications work? :)
The critical path works :) the nice-to-haves don't. The requirement for being able to turn JavaScript off depends on the application and its needs. If it is something like Facebook, then who cares if people who decide to turn off JavaScript can't access it? If it is something like the timekeeping system - then that is a completely different matter. Our software architecture varies based on the needs of the users and the application.

If I have stored procedures written to interface with the apps, why do the developers need to "separate concerns"?

Why do I need to have separate of cocerns below?!?!?!?
@{
dynamic users = DB.ExecuteSP("get_all_users", DB.AddParameter("sort_dir", SortDirection.Asc));
}
<ol>
@foreach(var usr in users) {
<li>
<div>@usr.username</div>
</li>
}
</ol>

Regarding bad data, like for one MVC application where I'm fixing tons of bad data issues, they actually have a table to store users....all the columns are nullable except a user_id LOL!

That just sounds like bad database design (regarding all the columns being nullable). Regarding the separation of concerns, if all your logic is done on the database side with stored procs, then there is less separation of concern needed. However, there are many applications with lots of business logic separate from the database. One of my projects used LINQ in lieu of stored pros. Another used Hibernate. In those cases, separation of concerns is very important.
 
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What's PHP and HTML5 like?
EDIT June 16. 4:22 AM local time: asq is the programming language I arrived at after some hours of comparison now, with previous comparisons I've done years ago originally in the early '00s.
EDIT2 June 17. 10:05 PM local time: See http://forums.theregister.co.uk/for...p_0day_mac_ios_research_blitzkrieg/#c_2545027 ... OS X 10.11 El Capitan which I'm upgrading to within 1½ Weeks has less security problems than 10.10 Yosemite, (see http://www.accordancebible.com/foru...el-capitan-anyone-more-than-me-and-batteries/ where I wanted to inspire discussion ... thread has been read a hundred times but no replies yet, few will pay the $99 to upgrade at a very early stage and the Bible Study software doesn't benefit from 10.11 at this point and will not for years).
Is there any programming language suitable for OS X AppStore or Safari plugins which would be easy to learn at the age of 34 which I will be the one semester when I have a bit of time (Spring 2016)?
I think I'm going to pay one year of membership in Apple Unified Developer Membership to get OS X 10.11 El Capitan on the MacBook Pro I purchased yesterday - really needing the performance boost: it's slower than I thought - now overnight the seller is updating it from 10.10 to 10.10.3, that and iTunes and the Timemachine-related updates were slow. EDIT: the update from 10.10 to 10.10.3 created an additional partition - that caused a lot of the workload on it. Also it was also booting slow. EDIT: it worked much faster when being close to the Wifi than too many feet away from it - when testing it in the morning at the private person who sold it to me. It could view one youtube video but with two playing simultaneously it got a bit overloaded. 15" monitor, discrete NVIDIA graphics 128 MB. I'm ordering a much needed 6 GB RAM kit for it now, we tested it with 3 GB and with 2 GB and it was slow - it seemed to use a bit of virtual memory and have almost all of the RAM in some kind of use with only about 300 MB RAM for caching. It has a 256 GB S-ATA II SSD plus a 320 GB P-ATA HDD, can use external HDD. Probably going to use the ExpressCard slot to get a USB 3.0 port which it has never had:
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