Antisemetism

[Robban]

Or,

1. It's hot, Tinker
   vs.
2. It's hot Tinker.

I'd like to think #2 is true, but alas ...

Then of course, if there was not meant to be a punctuation.

Nonetheless, an intresting observation.

 

[ozso]

Or,

1. It's hot, Tinker
   vs.
2. It's hot Tinker.

I'd like to think #2 is true, but alas ...

Are just here to play punctuation police?

 

[truthpls]

No. It's just something I see in the news. There's no need for ad hominem histrionics.

You posted no support for your 'persecuted little minority' claim, and now you attempt to name call someone who points out it was not posted?

I've seen firsthand news reports. Are you seeing what's going on in the Middle-East firsthand? Are you there seeing it for yourself? If not then don't use firsthand experience as a qualifier for being aware.

As if it is some secret about the devastation and death inflicted on civilians? You wish to accept no stats from anyone except those living in (not killed yet) Gaza??

You're saying Palestinians from Palestine are coming over to the US, UK, Canada etc to protest?

No. The people here are fed up to the gills, who needs imports?

Most of the bullying and marginalizing of Jews in the West is being done by non-Palestinian non-Muslim leftists.

OK. Whatever that means. Remember you never posted support for the claim.

That question doesn't make any sense to me.

In other words the Jews I encounter never mentioned that

 

[truthpls]

Again, Jews living in the West are not citizens of Israel.

So? Americans living say, in Kuwait are not citizens either...so?

It's the same thing as the the Islamophobic practice of blaming Muslims living in the West for the 9/11 attacks.

If someone were to blame all Jews, I agree. Many protest the genocide.

 

[ozso]

So? Americans living say, in Kuwait are not citizens either...so?

If someone were to blame all Jews, I agree. Many protest the genocide.

The problem is they're blaming people thousands of miles away from the Middle-East, when they should be blaming Hamas and Hezbollah for starting and perpetuating a war.

 

[truthpls]

The problem is they're blaming people thousands of miles away from the Middle-East, when they should be blaming Hamas and Hezbollah for starting and perpetuating a war.

I tend to blame the ones actually mass murdering civilians. It is also fair to blame people far away, because nations support the state of Israel in the crimes against humanity.

 

[ozso]

You posted no support for your 'persecuted little minority' claim, and now you attempt to name call someone who points out it was not posted?

Okay so apparently you don't watch or read the news and you need me to Google Jews being persecuted in the US. Okay cut and paste time:

Jews being persecuted in the US - Google Search

Jews being persecuted in the UK:

Jews being persecuted in the UK - Google Search

Jews being persecuted in Canada:

Jews being persecuted in canada - Google Search

Jews being persecuted in Australia:

Jews being persecuted in Australia - Google Search

Is that enough for now?

As if it is some secret about the devastation and death inflicted on civilians? You wish to accept no stats from anyone except those living in (not killed yet) Gaza??

But you're insisting on firsthand experiencing it and proof. Where's your firsthand experience and where's your proof?

No. The people here are fed up to the gills, who needs imports?

Again, you're claiming it's people with firsthand experience who are protesting via bullying Jews living in the West.

OK. Whatever that means. Remember you never posted support for the claim.

See above.

In other words the Jews I encounter never mentioned that

Oh so what's going on in the world is determined by the people you encounter.

 

[ozso]

I tend to blame the ones actually mass murdering civilians. It is also fair to blame people far away, because nations support the state of Israel in the crimes against humanity.

You seem to be viewing a fantasy world where Hamas and Hezbollah haven't killed anyone and are just standing around innocent and helpless. Haven't lauched any attacks that have killed children. In truth they attacked Israel killing many including children and took many hostages. And let's not forget that they've put in writing that their goal and mission in life is to kill all Jews across the world.

 

[truthpls]

Okay so apparently you don't watch or read the news and you need me to Google Jews being persecuted in the US. Okay cut and paste time:

Jews being persecuted in the US - Google Search

Looking at your first link I saw no specifics.

Jews being persecuted in the UK:

Jews being persecuted in the UK - Google Search

In this link, no specifics either except for some claimed graffiti

Jews being persecuted in Canada:

Jews being persecuted in canada - Google Search

Jews being persecuted in Australia:

Jews being persecuted in Australia - Google Search

Is that enough for now?

Since the first ones I read did not offer any specs, if you find some specifics in your other google search links, post them.
As I suspected, a bunch of baloney so far

But you're insisting on firsthand experiencing it and proof. Where's your firsthand experience and where's your proof?

No, I asked you to offer specifics as to someone that was severely bullied for being Jewish to support your claims.

Again, you're claiming it's people with firsthand experience who are protesting via bullying Jews living in the West.

No. I claimed that people protesting the genocide were silenced in some cases and I might add painted as the bad guys in a lot of media. No one mentioned 'by Jews'. You are fabricating false statements and attributing them to me

See above.

Oh so what's going on in the world is determined by the people you encounter.

That can be an indication. If there was such a huge problem as you suggest, I would assume it might be mentioned. Since your links were useless and had no details at all, what is left?

 

[truthpls]

You seem to be viewing a fantasy world where Hamas and Hezbollah haven't killed anyone and are just standing around innocent and helpless.

No one suggested any such thing. Try to be honest. I said arrest and go after the criminals and killers. Not that the killers were 'innocent and helpless'

Haven't lauched any attacks that have killed children.

Yes, they have killed some. So if we call them terrorists, and Israel has killed far far far far far far far far far far far far far far far far more, then we should call the state of Israel...what?

In truth they attacked Israel killing many including children and took many hostages.

Right. Of course Israel took many many many more hostages and killed many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many more children. Is it antisemetic to acknowledge that truth? (in your mind)

And let's not forget that they've put in writing that their goal and mission in life is to kill all Jews across the world.

I do not care if they put in writing that they believe in the tooth fairy. We do not mass murder civilians because some weird minority thugs in a country write things.

 

[ozso]

Looking at your first link I saw no specifics.

In this link, no specifics either except for some claimed graffiti

Since the first ones I read did not offer any specs, if you find some specifics in your other google search links, post them.
As I suspected, a bunch of baloney so far

I know you didn't read dozens of news articles on the subject to draw that conclusion.

No, I asked you to offer specifics as to someone that was severely bullied for being Jewish to support your claims.

There's plenty in all the news articles I supplied you with.

No. I claimed that people protesting the genocide were silenced in some cases and I might add painted as the bad guys in a lot of media. No one mentioned 'by Jews'. You are fabricating false statements and attributing them to me

They're being painted as bad guys because they're persecuting Jews in the West.

That can be an indication. If there was such a huge problem as you suggest, I would assume it might be mentioned. Since your links were useless and had no details at all, what is left?

I supplied you with a vast number of news articles regarding the antisemitic persecution of Jews in the West. You on the other hand have supplied nothing whatsoever except opinion and hearsay.

 

[ozso]

No one suggested any such thing. Try to be honest. I said arrest and go after the criminals and killers. Not that the killers were 'innocent and helpless'

The criminals and killers known as Hamas and Hezbollah who started the war and are keeping it going are responsible for the deaths of the innocent and helpless.

Yes, they have killed some. So if we call them terrorists, and Israel has killed far far far far far far far far far far far far far far far far more, then we should call the state of Israel...what?

Hamas and Hezbollah are the ones who started the war and are the ones keeping it going.

Right. Of course Israel took many many many more hostages and killed many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many more children. Is it antisemetic to acknowledge that truth? (in your mind)

Evidence?

I do not care if they put in writing that they believe in the tooth fairy. We do not mass murder civilians because some weird minority thugs in a country write things.

Hamas and Hezbollah are the ones who have genocide written into their constitution, not Israel. And they are the ones who caused and are continuing to cause the mass deaths of civilians while waging their jihad. Do you also blame the US for all the deaths of innocent Germans living in Dresden etc when the Nazis were to blame for what happened?

 

[truthpls]

I know you didn't read dozens of news articles on the subject to draw that conclusion.

I saw no details. Just vague charges. Provide specifics.

There's plenty in all the news articles I supplied you with.

Point one out, as I said I saw little in your spammed google searches

They're being painted as bad guys because they're persecuting Jews in the West.

So if people display opposition to mass murder of children, you think they are 'persecuting Jews'. Not worth addressing.

 

[ozso]

I saw no details. Just vague charges. Provide specifics.

No, they're many separate news articles providing specifics. And it's pretty silly of you do demand specifics, when you have supplied none at all regarding your end.

There's this:

But I suppose your reply will be something like "so what?" or "that doesn't prove anything".

Point one out, as I said I saw little in your spammed google searches

I supplied lots of news articles. And you're just being hostile.

So if people display opposition to mass murder of children, you think they are 'persecuting Jews'. Not worth addressing.

No the issue regarding antisemitism is bullying Jews living in places like California. I've told you that umpteen times now. Why isn't it registering?

 

[Truth7t7]

I saw no details. Just vague charges. Provide specifics.

Point one out, as I said I saw little in your spammed google searches

So if people display opposition to mass murder of children, you think they are 'persecuting Jews'. Not worth addressing.

Hamas/ Palestine started the war when killing and kidnapping the many from the concert, Israel dropped millions of flyers over 2 weeks for the people of Palestine to move south towards Egypt because bombing was coming, the war was and still is justified

Conclusion: Don't kill and kidnap innocent civilians inside Israel, and your watching the justified price to be paid for doing so

 

[truthpls]

The criminals and killers known as Hamas and Hezbollah who started the war and are keeping it going are responsible for the deaths of the innocent and helpless.

Dropping bombs on children and hospitals and schools and refugee camps etc is what is killing the people. The criminals who killed civilians (Hamas) are apparently hiding like rats in tunnels etc. The mass murder is not war any more that the nazi death camps were war.

Hamas and Hezbollah are the ones who started the war and are the ones keeping it going.

The real causes are lost in the fog of war now. What we do know is that children and civilians are being mass murdered. The causes of that slaughter are precisely known.

Evidence?

The number of Palestinians held without charges (never mind the ones held with bogus charges) is far greater than the hundreds of hostages that Hamas took. The number of civilians, mostly women and children are also partially known, and as I said the 40,000 (some say actually 200,000) killed are far more than the dead from Oct 7. Earlier in the thread I posted a picture of the stats on prisoner/hostages in Israeli jails.

Hamas and Hezbollah are the ones who have genocide written into their constitution, not Israel.

I don't care what terrorists write or believe. That is no excuse to mass murder children

And they are the ones who caused and are continuing to cause the mass deaths of civilians while waging their jihad.

No. The bombs and bullets from Israel are the cause. Obviously. 100%

Do you also blame the US for all the deaths of innocent Germans living in Dresden etc when the Nazis were to blame for what happened?

If they knowingly mass murdered, then of course. Pointing out other killers is not a defence for the gross mass murdering of Israel today

 

[truthpls]

No, they're many separate news articles providing specifics. And it's pretty silly of you do demand specifics, when you have supplied none at all regarding your end.

The numbers of civilians killed are well provided. Not sure what you think you have provided here?

There's this:

But I suppose your reply will be something like "so what?" or "that doesn't prove anything".

If that protest is your idea of some gross injustice to Jews, you need to get a grip.

I supplied lots of news articles. And you're just being hostile.

You offered zero specifics. So I officially do not believe you now.

No the issue regarding antisemitism is bullying Jews living in places like California.

That says little. One could say, 'the issue regarding silencing protests happening in places like California' It says nothing at all. Who was bullied and how?

 

[truthpls]

Hamas/ Palestine started the war when killing and kidnapping the many from the concert,

What war? You mean the mass murder of civilians? That is slaughter not war.

Israel dropped millions of flyers over 2 weeks for the people of Palestine to move south towards Egypt because bombing was coming, the war was and still is justified

Sometimes the fleeing people silly enough to read or obey that fear propaganda were mowed down. To call the litter from the sky meaningless would be far too high a compliment

Conclusion: Don't kill and kidnap innocent civilians inside Israel, and your watching the justified price to be paid for doing so

Who is that addressed to? The tens of thousands of woman and children Israel killed? Since Israel has far far far more hostages taken without charges in their jails, (many who died and were raped) where does that leave Israel standing by your words?

 

[ozso]

Dropping bombs on children and hospitals and schools and refugee camps etc is what is killing the people. The criminals who killed civilians (Hamas) are apparently hiding like rats in tunnels etc. The mass murder is not war any more that the nazi death camps were war.

Bombs are being dropped where Hamas and Hezbollah are keeping themselves. And bombs are dropping because Hamas and Hezbollah are perpetuating the jihad that started the bomb droppings.

The real causes are lost in the fog of war now. What we do know is that children and civilians are being mass murdered. The causes of that slaughter are precisely known.

Evidence please.

The number of Palestinians held without charges (never mind the ones held with bogus charges) is far greater than the hundreds of hostages that Hamas took. The number of civilians, mostly women and children are also partially known, and as I said the 40,000 (some say actually 200,000) killed are far more than the dead from Oct 7. Earlier in the thread I posted a picture of the stats on prisoner/hostages in Israeli jails.

Evidence please.

I don't care what terrorists write or believe. That is no excuse to mass murder children

Well if Hamas and Hezbollah weren't stationing themselves around children that wouldn't be happening as much. If they halt their jihad it will likely stop altogether.

No. The bombs and bullets from Israel are the cause. Obviously. 100%

No, the cause of bombs and bullets from Israel is Hamas and Hezbollah waging a jihad against them.

If they knowingly mass murdered, then of course. Pointing out other killers is not a defence for the gross mass murdering of Israel today

The gross mass murdering of Israel? Did you switch sides all of a sudden?

 

[ozso]

The numbers of civilians killed are well provided.

You've provided zilch.

Not sure what you think you have provided here?

Vary many news articles.

If that protest is your idea of some gross injustice to Jews, you need to get a grip.

If you think keeping a Jewish student from going to his classes isn't antisemitic bullying, then you're the one who needs to get a grip.

You offered zero specifics. So I officially do not believe you now.

You've offered zero anything, which by your standard makes you less trustworthy.

That says little. One could say, 'the issue regarding silencing protests happening in places like California' It says nothing at all. Who was bullied and how?

The Jewish student was being bullied by being kept from entering the campus to attend his classes. Why is none of this registering in your brain?