Anti intellectualism directed against science.

[sjastro]

Um, that doesn't really answer the q., though it could
(and has) been used as a resson to inhibit the survival of
those outside said religion.

What God qualities?
How do they assure survival?
Prease exprain!

Prease exprain?
Oh I see you are from Hong Kong.
Reminds me of putting Babel Fish to the test one day.
I sent a message to a Chinese friend using the famous Monty Python line "My hovercraft is full of eels." translated into Mandarin which came out something like "My elf hovers over my watercraft".

 

[Astrid]

Prease exprain?
Oh I see you are from Hong Kong.
Reminds me of putting Babel Fish to the test one day.
I sent a message to a Chinese friend using the famous Monty Python line "My hovercraft is full of eels." translated into Mandarin which came out something like "My elf hovers over my watercraft".

Mandarin is considered cultural imperialism in H. K.

"Shawshank Redemption " just won't translate so
It was retitled "Shark Castle ", an improvement!

 

[OldWiseGuy]

So how do the other species surviving today (at least 2 million of them) survive without human intelligence?

Fangs, claws, body hair or fur, brute strength, savagery, fecundity (prey animals), stingers, barbs, quills, speed, camoflauge, venom, flight, swarms, raw survival instincts, etc. etc. No need for human intelligence.

 

[Astrid]

Fangs, claws, body hair or fur, brute strength, savagery, fecundity (prey animals), stingers, barbs, quills, speed, camoflauge, venom, flight, swarms, raw survival instincts, etc. etc. No need for human intelligence.

So when in the course of human affairs
did the species become helpless and suddenly
need God-help?

 

[sjastro]

Fangs, claws, body hair or fur, brute strength, savagery, fecundity (prey animals), stingers, barbs, quills, speed, camoflauge, venom, flight, swarms, raw survival instincts, etc. etc. No need for human intelligence.

Jars with lids on them are designed to be opened by hand.
Yet this "dumb" octopus even lacking the appropriate anatomy is displaying problem solving skills to get to its prey.

 

[sjastro]

Mandarin is considered cultural imperialism in H. K.

You learn something new everyday.

 

[SelfSim]

Jars with lids on them are designed to be opened by hand.
Yet this "dumb" octopus even lacking the appropriate anatomy is displaying problem solving skills to get to its prey.

Doesn't count!
Octopuses are clearly aliens and therefore had no god designed inputs to 'em!

 

[Astrid]

Doesn't count!
Octopuses are clearly aliens and therefore had no god designed inputs to 'em!

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Soft body squishy things, no spines,
gotta be smart!

 

[SelfSim]

Soft body squishy things, no spines,
gotta be smart!

'Smart'? Oh .. ok .. I thought we were talking about the 'Human Spirit'?
(Aliens surely can't have a 'Human Spirit' .. even if they are slimey, squishy, etc, things, no?)

 

[Astrid]

'Smart'? Oh .. ok .. I thought we were talking about the 'Human Spirit'?
(Aliens surely can't have a 'Human Spirit' .. even if they are slimey, squishy, etc, things, no?)

I dunno. Been trying to find out what we are talking about.

BTW how do YOU figure those little cerebrationally-challenged
lil Australo- etc guys survived amid hyenas etc.

 

[Ponderous Curmudgeon]

I dunno. Been trying to find out what we are talking about.

BTW how do YOU figure those little cerebrationally-challenged
lil Australo- etc guys survived amid hyenas etc.

Oh boy, don't tell the meickans, but the rest of the world has it's own conflicts at many levels.

 

[Astrid]

Oh boy, don't tell the meickans, but the rest of the world has it's own conflicts at many levels.

I got tired of spelling out Australopithecus on my phone.
Nothing about Oz- or is it?
Anyway I'm not a "meickan".

 

[OldWiseGuy]

So when in the course of human affairs
did the species become helpless and suddenly
need God-help?

There's a coherent question in here somewhere but I can't quite figger it out.

 

[Astrid]

There's a coherent question in here somewhere but I can't quite figger it out.

You sure you ain't funning me?

Try again
You say people can't survive without some sort of
God-help.
We need this help coz no fur etc.
Correct so far?
Do you figger that the first human beings were created
as we are now?.
And that with only say, chimp intelligence H sapiens
could not survive?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Do you figger that the first human beings were created as we are now?.

Yup.

 

[Astrid]

Yup.

Well, as noted before, I find that to be a sad and profoundly
disrespectful dismissal of all the ancestors who came
"before".
Should there be an afterlife with a reception line it could
be uncomfortable meeting them, and seeing who says
"I know thee not".
More likely its just that my culture, being that we put
so much emphasis on respect for ancestors.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Well, as noted before, I find that to be a sad and profoundly
disrespectful dismissal of all the ancestors who came
"before".
Should there be an afterlife with a reception line it could
be uncomfortable meeting them, and seeing who says
"I know thee not".
More likely its just that my culture, being that we put
so much emphasis on respect for ancestors.

Adam was my oldest traceable ancestor.

 

[Astrid]

Adam was my oldest traceable ancestor.

Not mine.

ETA for @OldWiseGuy

Informative, like ya didn't already know??

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Fangs, claws, body hair or fur, brute strength, savagery, fecundity (prey animals), stingers, barbs, quills, speed, camoflauge, venom, flight, swarms, raw survival instincts, etc. etc. No need for human intelligence.

I see, so you attribute our survival advantage to God, but those of other creatures to nature. Just because?

<sniff, snurk> I smell human exceptionalism...

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I see, so you attribute our survival advantage to God, but those of other creatures to nature. Just because?

<sniff, snurk> I smell human exceptionalism...

We were created to survive in a certain way, animals in a certain way. It's not complicated.