Another squeeze for your eschatological understanding.

[LovedofHim]

Does Jesus say that the abomination of desolation comes before the great tribulation in this passage?

Does Jesus say the great tribulation is cut short for the sake of the elect, followed by the rising of the antichrist, false prophet, and false miracles?

So can the abomination of desolation have anything to do with the antichrist if there's an entire great tribulation that takes place and must be cut short between the two?

15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)


21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.


23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

 

[LovedofHim]

Do you suppose this order of events is written in Daniel, as Jesus said? Here is Daniel 11:

Abomination of desolation:

31And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

Great Tribulation:

32And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
33And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
34Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
35And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.



Antichrist:
36And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation (time of wrath)be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
37Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
38But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
39Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.
40And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.
41He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.
42He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.
43But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.
44But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many. 45And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Do you suppose this order of events is written in Daniel, as Jesus said? Here is Daniel 11:

Abomination of desolation:

31And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

Great Tribulation:

Greetings. Interesting thread. I think I would have to go with option #2 as that seems to be the one closest to my own view.

Also, may I ask you a simple question?
Do you believe the Olivet Discourse is the same event as Revelation?

There is a reason I am asking this and noticed you haven't yet voted on this poll thread I created. Thanks

http://www.christianforums.com/t7276015/
Olivet Discourse and Revelation Same Event?

As far as the AoD of Dan 11 and 12, we need to really put that on a sepereate thread. I and many others view All of Daniel fulfilled on the OC Nation of Judah. God bless

Hebrew Interlinear of Daniel 11:31 Showing the use of the Definite Article - THE Abomination of Desolation
Hebrew Interlinear of Daniel 12:11 Showing the Absence of the Definite Article - AN Abomination of Desolation

Daniel 11:31 and arms from him shall stand up and they profane/violate the sanctuary, the refuge and they take-away the continual and they give The-Abomination, one-making-desolate.

Daniel 12:11 And from time the continual is taken away and-to-give-of an-Abomination, one-desolating, days, thousand, two hundred and ninety

 

[LovedofHim]

And if Daniel 11 and Matt 24 aren't enough to convince you, Revelation 5-9 describe a 2000 year time period from when Jesus ascended as the slain lamb and opened the first four seals, which Ezek 14:21 confirms were sent out to cut off man and beast from Israel which led to the desolation of Israel, all the way to the description of the elect coming out of that great tribulation - the church standing in heaven and a remnant of Israel sealed and protected on earth - before the antichrist even takes power.

 

[LovedofHim]

Yet another proof that the antichrist arises after the tribulation is cut short for the sake of the elect is found in Rev 12 and 13 which shows the elect: the church in heaven and Israel gathered and protected on earth, before the antichrist is even given his 42 months of power.

Elect church:


10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Elect of Israel:

14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Antichrist empowered after church in heaven, after head wound (armies/flood that are sent out against Israel destroyed) :


5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

 

[ivebeenshown]

False christs and prophets DURING the great tribulation

 

[LovedofHim]

False christs and prophets DURING the great tribulation

The antichrist and the false prophet perform their false miracles after the elect has been gathered and protected when the great tribulation that began with the desolation of Israel is cut short.

That's why Revelation 12 and 13 show the church in heaven and a remnant of Israel protected on earth "from the face of the serpent" for 42 months while the antichrist is empowered.

Elect church:


10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Elect of Israel:

14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Antichrist empowered after church in heaven, after head wound (armies/flood that are sent out against Israel destroyed) :


5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

 

[SeraphimsCherub]

John 844) (KJV) Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Obama is the 44th President and was elected as such in Nov. of 08

 

[LovedofHim]

John 844) (KJV) Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Obama is the 44th President and was elected as such in Nov. of 08

What are you doing? This thread is about what Jesus said in Matt 24, Daniel 11, Rev 5-9 and Rev 12, 13.

 

[ivebeenshown]

The antichrist and the false prophet perform their false miracles after the elect has been gathered and protected when the great tribulation that began with the desolation of Israel is cut short.

Nah, I don't buy the whole 'Church and Israel treated separately' thing.

Matthew 2
14 So he (Joseph) got up, took the child (Jesus) and his mother (Mary) during the night and left for Egypt, 15 where he stayed until the death of Herod. And so was fulfilled what the Lord had said through the prophet: “Out of Egypt I called my son.”

Hosea 11
1 “When Israel was a child, I loved him,
and out of Egypt I called my son.

If you're in Christ, you're in Israel. If you're not in Christ, you're not in Israel.

Besides, the elect have been elect from the foundation of the world. If God gathers his elect, then everyone who was not gathered would NOT be elect for salvation at all.

 

[LovedofHim]

Nah, I don't buy the whole 'Church and Israel treated separately' thing.

Matthew 2
14 So he (Joseph) got up, took the child (Jesus) and his mother (Mary) during the night and left for Egypt, 15 where he stayed until the death of Herod. And so was fulfilled what the Lord had said through the prophet: “Out of Egypt I called my son.”

Hosea 11
1 “When Israel was a child, I loved him,
and out of Egypt I called my son.

If you're in Christ, you're in Israel. If you're not in Christ, you're not in Israel.

Besides, the elect have been elect from the foundation of the world. If God gathers his elect, then everyone who was not gathered would NOT be elect for salvation at all.

Romans 11:25For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Revelation 12 and 7 shows the church in heaven which = "the fulness of the Gentiles be come in" and Israel sealed and protected on earth for 42 months from the devil and the antichrist.

Some things are true whether you want to believe it or not.

 

[ivebeenshown]

Romans 11:25For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Don't you find it intriguing that it is written: 'so all Israel shall be saved'? Does this mean every flesh descendant of the twelve tribes of Israel will be saved, including those who were told by Jesus, 'it will be more tolerable for Sodom and Gommorah in that day'?

Revelation 12 and 7 shows the church in heaven

Don't see it, sorry.

Some things are true whether you want to believe it or not.

Oh, I definitely believe that some things are true -- though I think you meant to type 'some things are true whether you want to believe them or not.'

 

[LovedofHim]

Don't you find it intriguing that it is written: 'so all Israel shall be saved'? Does this mean every flesh descendant of the twelve tribes of Israel will be saved, including those who were told by Jesus, 'it will be more tolerable for Sodom and Gommorah in that day'?

And there's "all Israel" sealed before the antichrist is given his 42 months, after the church is gone to heaven:

Revelation 7


1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
4And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
5Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
6Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
7Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand. 8Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

Don't see it, sorry.

So, you don't know who these people are who have come out of great tribulation which Jesus said is cut short for the sake of the elect and followed by falsechrists, false prophets and false miracles, or recognize where they are standing?

Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

10And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
12Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

And who is this dwelling in heaven before the antichrist is given his 42 months in Revelation 12:

10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

How important is knowing the truth to you, ivebeenshown? Is your study of the Word of God about knowing what God said and believing it because you love Him or is it about something else? (all rhetorical questions)

My study of the Word of God is about knowing what He said and believing it regardless of what some church or man teaches. The only One that matters to me is Him.

 

[ivebeenshown]

And there's "all Israel" sealed before the antichrist is given his 42 months, after the church is gone to heaven:

Eh, it doesn't say the phrase 'all Israel'. It just describes 12 tribes, and 12,000 people of each tribe being sealed (12x12,000). I believe this is a symbol of the New Jerusalem, depicted in Revelation 21: the city is a cube which is 12,000 stadia long, wide, and high (if you know basic geometry, you would know that a cube has 12 edges, so 12x12,000) and the wall is 144 cubits thick.

Numbers can be very symbolic, can't they?

So, you don't know who these people are who have come out of great tribulation or recognize where they are standing?

Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. 11And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, 12Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen. 13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

This passage in no way states that the great multitude is the entire Church. It could be only the martyrs.

And who is this dwelling in heaven before the antichrist is given his 42 months in Revelation 12:

10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Could be Enoch, Elijah, Moses, and some martyrs. Again, who knows? It doesn't state that the entire Church is dwelling in heaven.

My study of the Word of God is about knowing what He said and believing it regardless of what some church or man teaches. The only One that matters to me is Him.

Cool, well I hope you can continue your journey as I have. I came here knowing only what was in Left Behind (pretribulational, dispensational, premillenial, literalistic interpretation), and almost a year later with countless hours of studying my view has developed (Catholic, amillenialism, symbolic interpretation.) 'Regardless of what some church or man teaches' is a good way to go, however I have personally grown to view the Catholic church as the 'original church', and the authoritative interpreter or scripture. Funnily enough, I realized that just after I realized that amillenialism made more sense to me from just studying scriptures.

 

[LovedofHim]

Eh, it doesn't say the phrase 'all Israel'. It just describes 12 tribes, and 12,000 people of each tribe being sealed (12x12,000). I believe this is a symbol of the New Jerusalem, depicted in Revelation 21: the city is a cube which is 12,000 stadia long, wide, and high (if you know basic geometry, you would know that a cube has 12 edges, so 12x12,000) and the wall is 144 cubits thick.

Numbers can be very symbolic, can't they?

Yes, this is describing the remnant of Israel, the elect of Israel. The 12,000/144,000 is symbolic of completion and the Kingdom of God.

This passage in no way states that the great multitude is the entire Church. It could be only the martyrs.

Only if the martyrs are the only one's who inherit salvation and the Kingdom, ivebeenshown.

Rev 7:9After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb


REv 12:10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Could be Enoch, Elijah, Moses, and some martyrs. Again, who knows? It doesn't state that the entire Church is dwelling in heaven.

Who is given salvation and the Kingdom, ivebeenshown? Is it only the martyrs or is it the entire church? When does that moment occur?

 

[ivebeenshown]

Who is given salvation and the Kingdom, ivebeenshown? Is it only the martyrs or is it the entire church? When does that moment occur?

This is a false dillemma... because there is nothing in the passages that state 'these are the only people who receive salvation.'

In fact, if your view incorporates some 'remnant of Israel' that is 'left after the rapture' but will somehow be saved, then you cannot be reading those passages as if they depict the only people to receive salvation without contradicting yourself.

 

[LovedofHim]

This is a false dillemma... because there is nothing in the passages that state 'these are the only people who receive salvation.'

In fact, if your view incorporates some 'remnant of Israel' that is 'left after the rapture' but will somehow be saved, then you cannot be reading those passages as if they depict the only people to receive salvation without contradicting yourself.

What does "until the fulness of the gentiles be come in" mean to you?

Romans 11:25For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Our salvation comes when Christ appears, resurrects the dead in Him, and changes us to an immortal form and catches us up to Him in the air, prior to wrath on the Day of the Lord. That moment is the fulfillment of the New Covenant promise to the church who has the Holy Spirit within that was given as a deposit guaranteeing what is to come. We who have the Spirit of God KNOW we have salvation when Christ appears.

Hbr 9:28so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

1Pe 1:5who through faith are shielded by God's power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.


In both Rev 7 and 12 where the church is described in heaven, we are praising God for salvation which finally is fulfilled with Christ's appearance for us.

 

[ivebeenshown]

What does "until the fulness of the gentiles be come in" mean to you?

Romans 11:25For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Let me ask you a question first: does Romans 11 say anything to you? Anything at all? I will be up front now: notice what Paul writes about being grafted into the olive tree.

There is only one olive tree mentioned in the passage.
That olive tree is Israel.
Those descendants of Jacob who refuse the Messiah are cut out.
Those Gentiles who accept the Messiah are grafted in.
Those descendants of Jacob who were cut out still have a chance to be grafted back in, by accepting Jesus.

You see? You are either in Christ (Israel) or not. All Israel will be saved -- because anyone who is not in Israel will not be saved. Israel is God's only people -- God has no other people but Israel. Salvation is based upon faith, not works or flesh. You can be a good Samaritan and a blood descendant of Jacob, but if you don't have faith in Jesus the Messiah... well, that's tough.

 

[LovedofHim]

Cool, well I hope you can continue your journey as I have. I came here knowing only what was in Left Behind (pretribulational, dispensational, premillenial, literalistic interpretation), and almost a year later with countless hours of studying my view has developed (Catholic, amillenialism, symbolic interpretation.) 'Regardless of what some church or man teaches' is a good way to go, however I have personally grown to view the Catholic church as the 'original church', and the authoritative interpreter or scripture. Funnily enough, I realized that just after I realized that amillenialism made more sense to me from just studying scriptures.

You know, I don't even know or care what man-made ideology I may or may not fall into because it's earthly/worldly. I only care what God said. Why do you care what other men think/believe? Isn't knowing and understanding and caring what God said the only thing that matters regardless of if it's a amillenial or dispensational or Catholic or Protestant belief?

I mean, I'm not going to stand before God one day and say I cherry-picked His Word for what to believe based on the ideology of some church or group or movement. I'm going to stand before Him and say that I believe every Word HE spoke regardless of what other men or groups taught.

 

[LovedofHim]

Let me ask you a question first: does Romans 11 say anything to you? Anything at all? I will be up front now: notice what Paul writes about being grafted into the olive tree.

There is only one olive tree mentioned in the passage.
That olive tree is Israel.
Those descendants of Jacob who refuse the Messiah are cut out.
Those Gentiles who accept the Messiah are grafted in.
Those descendants of Jacob who were cut out still have a chance to be grafted back in, by accepting Jesus.

You see? You are either in Christ (Israel) or not. All Israel will be saved -- because anyone who is not in Israel will not be saved. Israel is God's only people -- God has no other people but Israel.

Yes, I know.

Earthly Israel was desolated, set aside, abandoned UNTIL a very specific moment in time - until the gentiles come in to the Israel of God.

Jesus is the Israel of God who is creating ONE NEW MAN out of the two folds, Jews and Gentiles.

When the church is removed, earthly Israel (a remnant of the twelve tribes listed in Rev 7) is sealed and protected by God for their millennial, even eternal purpose.

God is not done with earthly Israel. He will deal with them when the church is gone.

Mic 5:3Therefore Israel will be abandoned until the time when she who is in labor gives birth and the rest of his brothers return to join the Israelites.

Hosea 6


1Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up. 2After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.


Matt 24:37O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

38Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.



Zech 12: 10And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
11In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
12And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;
13The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart; 14All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.