Another quick question. About 0mnipotence

[Ymeg]

Could God make 1+1=pie?, could he make #/0=(Number) or could he even cook a burrito so hot that not even he could eat it?

Inspired by Omnipotence paradox and this comic - G-Man.

 

[Calminian]

Could God make 1+1=pie?, could he make #/0=(Number) or could he even cook a burrito so hot that not even he could eat it?

Inspired by Omnipotence paradox and this comic - G-Man.

No. Omnipotence means that God can do anything that is logically possible. He cannot make square circles. God is not illogical. Thus we can understand Him theo-logically.

As Christ demonstrated, He is not confined by scientific understandings. He can walk on water and rise from the dead. He can create wine and the universe out of nothing. But He can't do what is illogical. This is very basic theology. All christians understand this. Really, it's not biggie. I think the guy in your link is getting excited over nothing.

 

[Ymeg]

I guess, but creating a stone so heavy that not he could lift it is not illogical. He can create a 300lbs stone, which I could not lift. But, could he create a stone that he could not lift? There is a minor difference bewteen 1+1=3 and this, because this states that god can or cannot bench everything.


- - Or maybe your right.

 

[Calminian]

I guess, but creating a stone so heavy that not he could lift it is not illogical. He can create a 300lbs stone, which I could not lift. But, could he create a stone that he could not lift? There is a minor difference bewteen 1+1=3 and this, because this states that god can or cannot bench everything.


- - Or maybe your right.

The stone question still falls under the illogical category because God is infinitely strong. The only way the stone could reach a weight too heavy would be if God's strength was finite.

 

[ebia]

I guess, but creating a stone so heavy that not he could lift it is not illogical. He can create a 300lbs stone, which I could not lift. But, could he create a stone that he could not lift? There is a minor difference bewteen 1+1=3 and this, because this states that god can or cannot bench everything.


- - Or maybe your right.

It is. For any given 'weight' he can exert enough force to lift it.

There is no weight such that he could not lift it, therefore to ask him to create something of that weight is meaningless.

 

[heron]

The philosophy forum has been running a thread on this. If you want a large range of answers, check it out.

http://www.christianforums.com/t4455510-mayby-a-way-to-disprove-god-p.html

 

[Confess]

God only does what is TRUE and GOOD. If your question goes against that, then I would say that because that would go against the nature of God the answer would be NO.

 

[Catherineanne]

Could God make 1+1=pie?, could he make #/0=(Number) or could he even cook a burrito so hot that not even he could eat it?

Inspired by Omnipotence paradox and this comic - G-Man.

These questions are asked about the Creator, in relation to laws or states within Creation. It misses the point that God is not governed by our laws or states. Mostly the answer has to be, that the question is not applicable to one who is not within Creation, but who created all that is, seen and unseen.

Ergo, you can ask these things of Zeus or Apollo; shamen derived gods who have their place within the Universe, but they do not apply to God.

 

[Deiphage]

No. Omnipotence means that God can do anything that is logically possible. He cannot make square circles. God is not illogical. Thus we can understand Him theo-logically.

As Christ demonstrated, He is not confined by scientific understandings. He can walk on water and rise from the dead. He can create wine and the universe out of nothing. But He can't do what is illogical. This is very basic theology. All christians understand this. Really, it's not biggie. I think the guy in your link is getting excited over nothing.

What's logical about turning water into wine, walking on water, or rising from the dead? That all seems very illogical to me.

 

[ebia]

Could God make 1+1=pie?

I presume you mean Pi. Yes, in a non-Euclidean geometry.

, could he make #/0=(Number)

Division by zero is undefined, so I guess he could define it.

or could he even cook a burrito so hot that not even he could eat it?

Barbequed fish seems to be more his cooking style.

 

[Insanity101]

Well, if there is infinite space and God has infinite strength, then he could create an infinitely large stone that he might technically be able to lift.

These questions are quite boring and trivial though.

 

[Alcamo]

Deiphage,

Making a 'square circle' is contradictory and therefore illogical. Making 1+1=3 is contradictory and therefore illogical. There is nothing contradictory and illogical about changing water into wine, which is merely adding/removing atoms and molecules to change the molecular structure. Likewise, "recomposing" decomposed matter, which essentially works the same as above, (and returning the soul ) is not contradictory or illogical.

You have not argued this, but I mention it for the conversation in general;
If we say God can’t make square circles, some people will say he’s not really omnipotent and therefore isn’t really God. If we say God can make square circles, the same people will say he’s irrational and therefore can’t exit.

Also, it’s great to have you in this forum, but please respect the rules. As an atheist, you should not be responding to other people’s posts, but you are always welcome to start your own.

Thanks!

 

[Seekermeister]

The simple answer to this simple question, is that there is only one thing that God cannot do, and that is anything against His own nature. Since the universe is His creation, it is a reflection of His nature, and imagining unnatural scenarios as a test of God's omnipotence is neither humorous, witty or logical.