Another Marriage Question

[Caylin]

If you a Christian and your spouse was too, but then de converted and became atheist or another religion, would you stay married? If you are atheist, what would you do if your spouse became theist? If you are pagan... I think you can see where this is going.

 

[sparklecat]

If I were married and my spouse became a Christian... it would depend on why they became a Christian, and what type of Christian they were. The only one that I would see as a problem is probably fundamentalist Christianity - and what I did would depend on whether I thought this was a temporary thing due to some life situation, or a sudden nonsensical conversion that would probably stick.

If I thought it was the latter, I'd lose a lot of respect for them, and consider 'letting them off the hook' so we could both find people we were more compatible with.

 

[Andy Roddick]

Let me put this in the most loving way possible. You're not a christian and neither is your spouse. That's just the truth. God's sheep knows his voice. Apostle Paul does state many instructions on what you ought to do when something similar to this happens but im not going to post that because there is a bigger problem to your question than what you originally have come to ask. Christians are those who follow the principles of the word of God and have been revealed of who God is. Many hear the word of God and receive with joy in the beginning, but quickly lose it when difficult circumstances hit. Im sorry but Kingdom of God is not a liberal theology nor is it a democracy. All God's ways are holy and divine and his calling is upward. If you truly believe that you are saved, then ask yourself, "where is your heart and what is in it?" Do you really know God or are you a fan?

 

[Caylin]

Let me put this in the most loving way possible. You're not a christian and neither is your spouse. That's just the truth. God's sheep knows his voice. Apostle Paul does state many instructions on what you ought to do when something similar to this happens but im not going to post that because there is a bigger problem to your question than what you originally have come to ask. Christians are those who follow the principles of the word of God and have been revealed of who God is. Many hear the word of God and receive with joy in the beginning, but quickly lose it when difficult circumstances hit. Im sorry but Kingdom of God is not a liberal theology nor is it a democracy. All God's ways are holy and divine and his calling is upward. If you truly believe that you are saved, then ask yourself, "where is your heart and what is in it?" Do you really know God or are you a fan?

Dude, I'm an un-married liberal atheist. I never claimed to be christian and neither does my girlfriend. The question is a hypothetical, asked for my own curiosity.

 

[]RiSeN[]

Let me put this in the most loving way possible. You're not a christian and neither is your spouse. That's just the truth. God's sheep knows his voice. Apostle Paul does state many instructions on what you ought to do when something similar to this happens but im not going to post that because there is a bigger problem to your question than what you originally have come to ask. Christians are those who follow the principles of the word of God and have been revealed of who God is. Many hear the word of God and receive with joy in the beginning, but quickly lose it when difficult circumstances hit. Im sorry but Kingdom of God is not a liberal theology nor is it a democracy. All God's ways are holy and divine and his calling is upward. If you truly believe that you are saved, then ask yourself, "where is your heart and what is in it?" Do you really know God or are you a fan?

I love it when smart people become Christians.

 

[]RiSeN[]

Dude, I'm an un-married liberal atheist. I never claimed to be christian and neither does my girlfriend. The question is a hypothetical, asked for my own curiosity.

Wow. You must be really bored.

 

[Jet Black]

I love it when smart people become Christians.

but he didn't answer the question.

 

[Andy Roddick]

If I were married and my spouse became a Christian... it would depend on why they became a Christian, and what type of Christian they were. The only one that I would see as a problem is probably fundamentalist Christianity - and what I did would depend on whether I thought this was a temporary thing due to some life situation, or a sudden nonsensical conversion that would probably stick.

If I thought it was the latter, I'd lose a lot of respect for them, and consider 'letting them off the hook' so we could both find people we were more compatible with.

There is no such thing as "what type of christian." There is only one type of Christian and that is those who have been revealed of truth and live by his word. Problem isnt if life situation is too difficult. The problem is where is your faith? Who do you trust? Because those who put trust in God is able to stand all trials. What are your eyes fixed on? Because those who look elsewhere and not the Lord cannot defeat the problems of life.

Sister, im sorry but marriage is not about compatibility. People change, world changes, and marriage goes up and down. There is no such thing as compatible soul mates. Only marriage that can truly flourish and endure is 2 people who's purpose of existence is not tied with each other but with God. Marriage is a spiritual unification of two souls ordained and designed by God. Leave the compatibility to the designer. Live by faith and sound judgment.

 

[sparklecat]

There is no such thing as "what type of christian." There is only one type of Christian and that is those who have been revealed of truth and live by his word. Problem isnt if life situation is too difficult. The problem is where is your faith? Who do you trust? Because those who put trust in God is able to stand all trials. What are your eyes fixed on? Because those who look elsewhere and not the Lord cannot defeat the problems of life.

Yes, there is. There are Christians who hold certain beliefs which other Christians do not. That is the distinction I am making - my response includes my belief that Christianity is false.

Plenty of people handle life just fine without your god, you know.

Sister, im sorry but marriage is not about compatibility. People change, world changes, and marriage goes up and down. There is no such thing as compatible soul mates. Only marriage that can truly flourish and endure is 2 people who's purpose of existence is not tied with each other but with God. Marriage is a spiritual unification of two souls ordained and designed by God. Leave the compatibility to the designer. Live by faith and sound judgment.

Which of course explains why every marriage between non-christians falls apart.

 

[Jet Black]

Only marriage that can truly flourish and endure is 2 people who's purpose of existence is not tied with each other but with God.

I bet any counterevidence I present will be countered with a no-true scotsman fallacy, fundamentally falling back on your position that a "truly flourishing marriage" is one defined as one where the purpose of existance of the married parties is tied with God.

 

[Caylin]

Wow. You must be really bored.

Just a bit. You talk to me in IRC all the time, you should have some idea.

 

[Jet Black]

Which of course explains why every marriage between non-christians falls apart.

and why all christian marriages are successful of course. It's worth noting here that the highest divorce rate in the US is in fundamentalist christian groups.

 

[Caylin]

There is no such thing as "what type of christian." There is only one type of Christian and that is those who have been revealed of truth and live by his word. Problem isnt if life situation is too difficult. The problem is where is your faith? Who do you trust? Because those who put trust in God is able to stand all trials. What are your eyes fixed on? Because those who look elsewhere and not the Lord cannot defeat the problems of life.

Sister, im sorry but marriage is not about compatibility. People change, world changes, and marriage goes up and down. There is no such thing as compatible soul mates. Only marriage that can truly flourish and endure is 2 people who's purpose of existence is not tied with each other but with God. Marriage is a spiritual unification of two souls ordained and designed by God. Leave the compatibility to the designer. Live by faith and sound judgment.

So why is it exactly that christians have the highest divorce rate in the US? Also, an explantion of non-christians that stay together would be nice too...

 

[Andy Roddick]

Dude, I'm an un-married liberal atheist. I never claimed to be christian and neither does my girlfriend. The question is a hypothetical, asked for my own curiosity.

Friend then get right with God and everything else will be right. You are not a liberal atheist. You are a guy who is totally confused with life. You are trying to make sense of divine marriage with worldly philosophies. I hate to sound like a meanie but I have to tell you the truth. To answer your question, bible says if you become a christian, then the should not leave their husband or wives unless that unsaved spouse wants to leave. But you cannot divorce her unless she wants to. If you truly love her and you happened to think there is such thing as divine marriage, then do yourself a favor and get right with God. I can relate to you because you sound pretty young. Maybe Im wrong. Im a 21 year old college student faced with reality that God is so real. Ive come to term with myself that there is no other explanation in life than God. And it is a good place to be. atheists cannot help you neither can liberal theologies satisfy your desperation to know the beauty of marriage and the purpose of life.

 

[Jet Black]

atheists cannot help you neither can liberal theologies satisfy your desperation to know the beauty of marriage and the purpose of life.

ipse dixit. you have still made a number of unfounded accusations and claims.

 

[Caylin]

Friend then get right with God and everything else will be right. You are not a liberal atheist. You are a guy who is totally confused with life. You are trying to make sense of divine marriage with worldly philosophies. I hate to sound like a meanie but I have to tell you the truth. To answer your question, bible says if you become a christian, then the should not leave their husband or wives unless that unsaved spouse wants to leave. But you cannot divorce her unless she wants to. If you truly love her and you happened to think there is such thing as divine marriage, then do yourself a favor and get right with God. I can relate to you because you sound pretty young. Maybe Im wrong. Im a 21 year old college student faced with reality that God is so real. Ive come to term with myself that there is no other explanation in life than God. And it is a good place to be. atheists cannot help you neither can liberal theologies satisfy your desperation to know the beauty of marriage and the purpose of life.

Excuse me? Guy? I think I would know what I am a bit better than you.

 

[]RiSeN[]

So why is it exactly that christians have the highest divorce rate in the US? Also, an explantion of non-christians that stay together would be nice too...

I love when people throw the "why arent you perfect like your suposed to be" out on the field.lol. Its great. Ummm maybe because they're is just more christians than anything else in this country. Seeing as how they make up 76% of the population, seems pretty obvious they would have the highest rate.lol.wow.

 

[Andy Roddick]

So why is it exactly that christians have the highest divorce rate in the US? Also, an explantion of non-christians that stay together would be nice too...

If there is any life more attacked and wronged upon, is the way of christian life. Everyday the secular world is fighting intensely to change the christian way of life. God out of school, God out of government, God out of families, God out of marriage. Failing divorce rate isnt some coincidence. Violence, abortion rates, rapes, teen pregnancies, drug addicts, crimes, terrorism, every possible misdemeanor is rising across the globe. Divorce is just a mirror of how badly people are kicking God out of their lives. I find it interesting that you pointed out Christian divorce rate to be significant because you do have an idea of what a marriage should be like. and you clearly recognize it when it fails to hold upto its standard.

 

[sparklecat]

I love when people throw the "why arent you perfect like your suposed to be" out on the field.lol. Its great. Ummm maybe because they're is just more christians than anything else in this country. Seeing as how they make up 76% of the population, seems pretty obvious they would have the highest rate.

RATE. Not amount. As in a higher *percentage* of the Christians in the country. It doesn't matter if there are 10 atheists and 100 million Christians - if 40% of the atheists divorce, and 50% of the Christians do, the Christians have a higher divorce rate.

 

[Caylin]

I love when people throw the "why arent you perfect like your suposed to be" out on the field.lol. Its great. Ummm maybe because they're is just more christians than anything else in this country. Seeing as how they make up 76% of the population, seems pretty obvious they would have the highest rate.

Andy was the one saying christian marriges are perfect. I was just calling him on it to hear what his explantion is.