Another look at the moon landing.

[David Lamb]

Yes they are, I've already shown how the 'pro go to rocket' hits the firmament and how rockets arch over instead if going straight up.

And every time you mention rockets not going straight up, I or somebody else has replied to explain that they curve at first, while they are accelerating to the speed necessary to overcome their weight which tends to hold them on earth. The follow a curved path to start with, as they orbit the earth. Then, when they reach the necessary speed, they head off to the moon. The do not follow a curved path to avoid your supposed solid dome.

 

[Apple Sky]

As has been said several times, NASA is an organisation with thousands of people working for it. Some are Christians, some are not. That is the same with most human organisations. That certainly doesn't mean that Satan is behind all human organisations.

Satan is behind all these deceptive organisations, you only have to read about Albert Pike.

 

[David Lamb]

Satan is behind all these deceptive organisations, you only have to read about Albert Pike.

Yes, but don't you see? You have to assume that NASA is deceptive in order to say that Satan is behind NASA. I asked you for evidence that NASA is deceptive.

 

[Apple Sky]

The follow a curved path to start with, as they orbit the earth. Then, when they reach the necessary speed, they head off to the moon.

You can believe what you like but this doesn't ring true to me.

 

[Apple Sky]

I asked you for evidence that NASA is deceptive.

There's plenty, of evidence just seek and you will find.

 

[David Lamb]

You can believe what you like but this doesn't ring true to me.

So it's down to what "rings true" to you? To believe the things you do, (no moon landings, no visits to South Pole, Antarctica surrounding the earth, flat earth and the rest) you have to believe that literally millions of people are lying. That includes some of your brothers and sisters in Christ.

 

[David Lamb]

There's plenty, of evidence just seek and you will find.

No, I have no reason to do so. I am not the one saying that NASA is deceptive. You are, so it is down to you to provide the evidence.

 

[Apple Sky]

So it's down to what "rings true" to you? To believe the things you do, (no moon landings, no visits to South Pole, Antarctica surrounding the earth, flat earth and the rest) you have to believe that literally millions of people are lying. That includes some of your brothers and sisters in Christ.

We can't all be in the know

 

[David Lamb]

We can't all be in the know

Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean. That may be my fault, hence the apology.

 

[Apple Sky]

No, I have no reason to do so. I am not the one saying that NASA is deceptive. You are, so it is down to you to provide the evidence.

I reckon I already have many times on this thread.

 

[David Lamb]

I reckon I already have many times on this thread.

This thread is well over 3,000 messages long. Surely you are not suggesting I read through the whole thread to find the posts with your supposed evidence?

 

[Kathleen30]

Yes, but don't you see? You have to assume that NASA is deceptive in order to say that Satan is behind NASA. I asked you for evidence that NASA is deceptive.

Well NASA do certainly deceive Dave . They’ve been promoting evolution and billions of years like forever.

 

[David Lamb]

Well NASA do certainly deceive Dave . They’ve been promoting evolution and billions of years like forever.

Yes, I suppose many people in the world are brought up from birth to believe in evolution and billions of years. Some of those people work for NASA. I was answering Apple Sky, who was saying that NASA was deceiving people by causing the number of people to have walked on the moon to be 12, the same as the tribes of Israel and the apostles, and that this was and example of how the devil tries to copy God.

 

[Apple Sky]

This thread is well over 3,000 messages long. Surely you are not suggesting I read through the whole thread to find the posts with your supposed evidence?

Well I'm not prepared to keep evidence when I have already done so.

 

[Apple Sky]

I was answering Apple Sky, who was saying that NASA was deceiving people by causing the number of people to have walked on the moon to be 12, the same as the tribes of Israel and the apostles, and that this was and example of how the devil tries to copy God.

Satan has always tried to imitate God or to turn the scriptures into fairy tales to turn people way from them as for NASA they are in cahoots with Satan.
Talking about the 12 tribes of Israel, read up about the Tribe of Dan.

 

[David Lamb]

Well I'm not prepared to keep evidence when I have already done so.

That is up to you, of course. God bless you.

 

[Kathleen30]

Yes, I suppose many people in the world are brought up from birth to believe in evolution and billions of years. Some of those people work for NASA. I was answering Apple Sky, who was saying that NASA was deceiving people by causing the number of people to have walked on the moon to be 12, the same as the tribes of Israel and the apostles, and that this was and example of how the devil tries to copy God.

Dave I guess it’s how the Luciferian system works indoctrination from an early age. He who controls the past often controls the future too in how we think . You were talking to Apple. Yes you were . But you still resist and disagree when Apple tells you of all the porkys NASA has committed. And that being they are not a Christian organisation. Now I not sure about the astronauts being some counterfeit representation of the 12 tribes of Israel or the 12 apostles . I would say probably not. But still the Satan one is certainly a master of counterfeit and deception. But David we already know enough that they are not Christian based in their proclaimations of what they believe . So we should always be weary of what they claim and what they promote . So David what are the future benifits you think that NASA will bring forth to humanity ?

 

[prodromos]

Prodromos you’ve never heard of people being burned for the Bible.

Not for reading the Bible, no. That is what you claimed.

I read you be of the Eastern Orthodox faith. So perhaps it is not an essential part of your Orthodox histories

If you are referring to martyrdoms, Eastern Orthodox Christian martyrs in the last century outnumber all Christian martyrs for the last 2000 years.

But there was a time in history before and during the Reformation that people burned at the stake for doing just that.

Still not seeing it.

It was more a Roman Catholic -Protestant thing. The citations be numerous but I give you one.( Martyrs for the English Bible ) author Votaw Clyde Webes. Quote In 1539 5 Scotch men were burned alive at the stake in Edinburgh for merely studying m emorizing and preaching the word of God in English.

I've tried searching for that quote and come up empty. You claim there are many citations. Odd that the only one you give me produces no search results.

You can find online PDF on page 296.

No, you can find only the first page, which happens to be page 296 of the journal it was published in, but the quote you gave is nowhere on that page.

And of course you have the Foxes book of Martyrs essential reading to any Christian of how we obtained many of freedoms to freely read the Bible

I've read "Foxes book of Martyrs" years ago. It didn't not strike me as very reliable.

 

[prodromos]

Well I'm not prepared to keep evidence when I have already done so.

Only in your febrile imagination have you provided evidence.

 

[David Lamb]

Satan has always tried to imitate God or to turn the scriptures into fairy tales to turn people way from them as for NASA they are in cahoots with Satan.
Talking about the 12 tribes of Israel, read up about the Tribe of Dan.

What in particular about Dan? Dan is mentioned 66 times in the bible (that includes the place name and the person, as well as the tribe), but a quick scan through them didn't show any obvious connection with NASA or the moon landings.

I agree that Satan's tactic is often to twist God's word. The first sin happened after Satan had sown the seeds of doubt into Eve's mind about God's word: "Has God said........?" But God's word doesn't forbid moon landings or space flights.