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The astronomy system is heavily deceptive Amazon.com

Kings Dethroned: A History of the Evolution of Astronomy from the Time of the Roman Empire up to the present day. Thanks - I will order this book off eBay as it's unavailable on Amazon.
 
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The astronomy system is heavily deceptive Amazon.com
That does it. Based on the absolute truth taught in this book I am no longer a heliocentric believer. Wow what was I thinking.
 
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Kings Dethroned: A History of the Evolution of Astronomy from the Time of the Roman Empire up to the present day. Thanks - I will order this book off eBay as it's unavailable on Amazon.
Of course you would. Never mind ordering a book that might actually teach you something.
 
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Well Prodromos I certainly did follow the links. You write ( by the time the laser reaches the moons surface it is no longer a narrow beam but is now striking a large area of the moons curved surface, so what is sent as a brief pulse of light gets reflected back as a longer pulse as some of light has traveled further and takes a longer to return. ) I would say to that every laser bounce from the observatory to the moon is back in well under 10 seconds including the alleged reflectors there is no little extra time. You then say ( thus it does not result in high accuracy from a precise location) ) that is what tell us. But Prodromos the issue is could the astronauts have survived the Van Ellen’s belt to even set foot on the moon to set up the reflectors when considering that no astronaut has gone through the Ven Ellen’s belt in 50 years to further exploration and we now have advanced 5 times in technology to do so. I sorry i not trust. More so with all the discrepancies. You certainly have reflectors upon the moon. But they be from unmanned flights like from the Russian Lunokhods in 1970 and 73 and the chandrayan in 2023. And me does think upon the Myth busters. It is when they visit the Apache point observatory. The video is called ( it’s all about the moon )U - tube 42nd minute mark . Adam Savage from the myth busters is there to see if you can bounce a laser off the reflector from the observatory to the moon. But He doesn't even know that you can bounce lasers off the moon but that is not what concerns me. What concerns me is when Dr Mac milline performs the test you don’t get bounce back from the moon but you get a bounce back from the reflector. And that is telling. Because back in 1962 at the Lincoln observatory they were bouncing lasers off the moon. So someone is certainly screwing the data and the test for no moon bounce to come back to the Apache observatry. That’s all me say for now
 
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I've just now ordered it.
You should have ordered this one.

How We Got to the Moon: The People, Technology, and Daring Feats of Science Behind Humanity's Greatest Adventure Illustrated Edition​


 
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Kings Dethroned: A History of the Evolution of Astronomy from the Time of the Roman Empire up to the present day. Thanks - I will order this book off eBay as it's unavailable on Amazon.
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Do you mean unavailable in your area.
 
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The astronomy system is heavily deceptive Amazon.com
Seeing as we have sent multiple probes to the moon, to Venus, Mars and other planets with incredible accuracy, I'm pretty confident that Gerrard Hickson is not correct in his assessment.
 
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It isn't an issue. I've been exposed to a lot more radiation with all the x-rays and scans I've had done than the astronauts were in those few hours. I am now in my 60's and still in pretty decent health. No cancers or extra appendages growing anywhere.
 
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Well Hentenza as me has to remind you. Even with less radiation and the quickest route you’re still going into a sea of radiation with the Van Ellen belt . And metal is something that sends radiation berserk . And they even have certian metal makeups within their space suit including their space helmet. Your stats say from the unmanned space craft only 13 rads others would disagree. Other scientists say anywhere from 600 rads to 1100 rads there also be the solar flares. You might like to watch on U tube . ( Radiation reloaded the complete series ) it goes into some on the future Artemis future flights you mentioned and there also be a series of short filme called ( radioactive anomaly .) As to the moon rocks that would depend if we ever made it to the moon. Would you believe they claim the moon rocks to be over 4 billion years .old. And considering that creation only goes back some 7000 yrs. I do wonder if these people have ever counted 4 billion years ?
 
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Science claims are faith base, people who believe what science states (like going to the moon, etc..). These claims are believed by a person having faith in people, institutions and Governments and what they have claimed to have done or doing.
 
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Ok Prodromos we make you a prime candidate for the next flight on the Artemis ‍: )
 
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Well, none of the astronauts that went to the moon developed illnesses consistent with radiation exposure nor any one of them suffered an early death because of it. The end total radiation that were on their skin ranged from .18 to 1.14 rads which is no different than on earth. The shielding, speed, and trajectory worked flawlessly. If the “other” scientist that you spoke off were correct then the astronauts would have developed cancers and other radiation related illnesses. So the proof is the fact that none of them developed radiation exposure illnesses.
 
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Science claims are faith base, people who believe what science states (like going to the moon, etc..). These claims are believed by a person having faith in people, institutions and Governments and what they have claimed to have done or doing.
Nonsense. The scientific method leads to repeatable and verifiable data. Conspiracy theories on the other hand leads to absurdity.
 
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Astronauts, like most scientists, accept that the Earth is approximately 4.54 billion years old based on extensive geological and astronomical evidence. This age is supported by methods such as radiometric dating of rocks and meteorites, which provide a consistent timeline for the formation of the Earth and the solar system. Wikipedia The Planetary Society

Age of the Earth According to Science​

Scientific Consensus​

Astronauts, like many scientists, accept that the Earth is approximately 4.54 billion years old. This estimate is based on extensive research, including radiometric age-dating of meteorites and lunar samples. These methods provide a reliable framework for understanding the age of our planet and the solar system.

Formation of the Earth​

The Earth formed from a rotating disk of gas and dust around the young Sun about 4.6 billion years ago. This process involved the accumulation of material through collisions and gravitational attraction, leading to the formation of the planet as we know it today.

Comparison with Young Earth Creationism​

In contrast, some belief systems, such as Young Earth Creationism, assert that the Earth is only 6,000 to 10,000 years old. This view is based on literal interpretations of religious texts, particularly the Bible. However, this perspective contradicts established scientific evidence and is not supported by the broader scientific community.

Conclusion​

The overwhelming scientific evidence supports the view that the Earth is billions of years old, a belief shared by astronauts and scientists alike. This understanding is crucial for comprehending Earth's history, geological processes, and the evolution of life.
 
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If they had some of the grape juice (wine) that were made from water, how old would they find it to be ? yet it did not exist before the slaves obeyed Jesus and filled the jugs with water.
 
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