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What is foolishness? That God gave the Israelites Canaan, or that they still have a claim?

That a land belongs perpetually to a people, whether they continue to live there or not. That sort of revanchism causes wars.
 
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What is foolishness? That God gave the Israelites Canaan, or that they still have a claim?
How about the foolishness that underlies the concept of people “owning” land.
 
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That a land belongs perpetually to a people, whether they continue to live there or not. That sort of revanchism causes wars.
That line of reasoning will come as a surprise to anyone who owns land where they do not live. Even by secular reasoning, a person and heirs own land until they lose title to it. That can be by law or force of arms.

In this instance, we have a biblical account of God granting land to a people. Do we also have there God revoked that title?
 
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What is a "land claim artefact"?

Does that mean that if I dig something old from my ancestors day out of someone elses clay, that's my clay now?
The Antiquities Law of the State of Israel of 1978 was put in place by Israel to eliminate the problem of illegal activities with artifacts. They do enforce this law.
 
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a person and heirs own land until they lose title to it.
People fight for land. Genghis Khan has 16 million descendants today because only his descendants have the right to own the land to grow food to feed themselves.
I live in the western reserve where land was given for fighting in the Revolutionary War. Of course, what they do not tell you is land only cost fifty cents an acre at the time, but the taxes were $2.

We are told that the New Jerusalem will be 1500 by 1500 by 1500 miles. This is ALL of the Arab continental plate. With air and mineral rights. We hear stories about the battle of armageddon and Jesus is going to return to rule and reign for 1000 years.
 
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Any minute now.
 
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Is that why Isis destroys ancient artifacts?

Nope. The reason is divine insecurity. They lack confidence in their god relative to "other gods", so the icons of said dead religions must be destroyed.
 
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Roman soldiers got land grants after their service. Some of these had places in Corinth.
 
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I don't think that's a rubric you want to hold as a standard for land rights given that a WHOOOOOOOLE lot of people would be moving out of North America.
Unless the Solutrean culture made the journey.
 
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We see where God gave Canaan to the Israelites, but can we see where God has revoked that?
Of course. Quite Plainly.
Thier posession was CONDITIONAL on OBEDIENCE, and If they disobeyed, their ownership and posession of the land is revoked and they are DESTROYED:

Deuteronomy 28:63-68
63 And it shall be, that just as the Lord rejoiced over you to do you good and multiply you, so the Lord will rejoice over you to destroy you and bring you to nothing; and you shall be plucked from off the land which you go to possess.

64 “Then the Lord will scatter you among all peoples, from one end of the earth to the other, and there you shall serve other gods, which neither you nor your fathers have known—wood and stone. 65 And among those nations you shall find no rest, nor shall the sole of your foot have a resting place; but there the Lord will give you a trembling heart, failing eyes, and anguish of soul. 66 Your life shall hang in doubt before you; you shall fear day and night, and have no assurance of life. 67 In the morning you shall say, ‘Oh, that it were evening!’ And at evening you shall say, ‘Oh, that it were morning!’ because of the fear which terrifies your heart, and because of the sight which your eyes see.

68 “And the Lord will take you back to Egypt in ships, by the way of which I said to you, ‘You shall never see it again.’ And there you shall be offered for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.
 
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Check out Deuteronomy 4:40"

Thou shalt keep therefore his statutes, and his commandments, which I commanded thee this day, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee, and that thou mayest prolong thy days upon the earth, which the Lord thy God giveth thee, for ever.

- KJV
 
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Thou shalt keep therefore his statutes, and his commandments, which I commanded thee this day,
Jesus kept them all from birth. He was circumcised and presented before the Priest at the temple in Jerusalem. So He was dedicated and committed from the beginning.
 
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