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jazzypooh

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thanks tapero. that has helped.

in the NKJV it says this:
Do not rebuke an older man, but exhort him as a father, younger men as brothers,

and in the KJV:
Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;

these are the translations that the churches i've attended have always used. especially in the Baptist church i used to go to. since i grew up there, the 1st teachings of scriptures i learned were from the KJV. i mostly read from the Amplified version now and i do go to a non-denominational church now. but i was starting to hear some similar stuff there. that's why i was having these questions.

i have another question about this subject, which i think you touched on. but i think it would be best if i started it in a new thread. so i'll do that instead. so the OP gets her questions answered. when i post it, can you take a look at it for me?
 
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but isnt the purpose of the pastor to lead you also? :scratch: :confused:

That depends on who you put your trust in. Do you put your trust in man or God?
I think Isaiah 9:16 means two things. First, that no man on earth knows the total truth so we should get to know the word (bible) well enough to discern truth. And second, it is God who determines our footsteps (the course of our lives), not our pastor so we should get to know the Word (Christ) better. It is He who is our Sheppard.

But don’t take my word for it because I am just as fallible as the next guy. Nevertheless, here are some verses I think support what I have said:

1 Corinthians 11:3 Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, …

Proverbs 16:9 In his heart a man plans his course, but the LORD determines his steps.

John 10:4-6 When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger's voice." Jesus used this figure of speech, but they did not understand what he was telling them.

1 Corinthians 3:18 Do not deceive yourselves. If any one of you thinks he is wise by the standards of this age, he should become a "fool" so that he may become wise.

1 Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?
 
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What is divine service?
it's whatever task or ministry God has called you to. when He anoints you to do that, it's the same as saying He has empowered you to perform whatever He has called you to do. that's what the anointing is. it's God empowering us to do whatever He has called us to do through His Holy Spirit. does that make more sense?
 
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That depends on who you put your trust in. Do you put your trust in man or God?
I think Isaiah 9:16 means two things. First, that no man on earth knows the total truth so we should get to know the word (bible) well enough to discern truth. And second, it is God who determines our footsteps (the course of our lives), not our pastor so we should get to know the Word (Christ) better. It is He who is our Sheppard.

But don’t take my word for it because I am just as fallible as the next guy. Nevertheless, here are some verses I think support what I have said:

1 Corinthians 11:3 Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, …

Proverbs 16:9 In his heart a man plans his course, but the LORD determines his steps.

John 10:4-6 When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger's voice." Jesus used this figure of speech, but they did not understand what he was telling them.

1 Corinthians 3:18 Do not deceive yourselves. If any one of you thinks he is wise by the standards of this age, he should become a "fool" so that he may become wise.

1 Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?
if i respond to your post, it's gonna throw this thread off topic. so i'm gonna post my questions about that subject in another thread. and i'll respond to your post then. is that ok? but i do want to understand this better.
 
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it's whatever task or ministry God has called you to. when He anoints you to do that, it's the same as saying He has empowered you to perform whatever He has called you to do. that's what the anointing is. it's God empowering us to do whatever He has called us to do through His Holy Spirit. does that make more sense?
Yes, that does make sense :) Thank you :) Just was not familiar with that term. :)
 
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That depends on who you put your trust in. Do you put your trust in man or God?
I think Isaiah 9:16 means two things. First, that no man on earth knows the total truth so we should get to know the word (bible) well enough to discern truth. And second, it is God who determines our footsteps (the course of our lives), not our pastor so we should get to know the Word (Christ) better. It is He who is our Sheppard.

But don’t take my word for it because I am just as fallible as the next guy. Nevertheless, here are some verses I think support what I have said:

1 Corinthians 11:3 Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, …

Proverbs 16:9 In his heart a man plans his course, but the LORD determines his steps.

John 10:4-6 When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger's voice." Jesus used this figure of speech, but they did not understand what he was telling them.

1 Corinthians 3:18 Do not deceive yourselves. If any one of you thinks he is wise by the standards of this age, he should become a "fool" so that he may become wise.

1 Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?
ok, i responded to your post in a new thread.
 
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