Announcing the new Warning and Infraction system effective immediately

[pdudgeon]

Mmm...you are loosing me. How can the new protocol not be able to be enacted fairly or fully just because the actions don't fall of automatically?

it's a Christian thing, Henry. when full attonement is made for sins, those sins are remembered by God no more. no record in heaven exists of the sins, but of the attonement only.
and so it should be here.

 

[Hentenza]

it's a Christian thing, Henry. when full attonement is made for sins, those sins are remembered by God no more. no record in heaven exists of the sins, but of the attonement only.
and so it should be here.

Well, we are not as fair as God.

The manual process that we have in place does what you are saying relatively good. When a member is reported two things can happen. If the person has expired actions, a request for removal is done in the A/SA request forum (you should remember which forum that was). The expired history is then deleted from their profile. Secondly, the history that is posted in the report is ONLY the active history so expired history is never considered.

 

[pdudgeon]

Well, we are not as fair as God.

The manual process that we have in place does what you are saying relatively good. When a member is reported two things can happen. If the person has expired actions, a request for removal is done in the A/SA request forum (you should remember which forum that was). The expired history is then deleted from their profile. Secondly, the history that is posted in the report is ONLY the active history so expired history is never considered.

We are not as fair as God....but we continually strive to be so, right?

and yes i remember well the A/SA request forum, and while on staff i made requests on behalf of the members to update the records.

Henry, you and I seem to have a very basic difference of opinion on the importance of expunging an expired history and the reasons for doing so.

i see it as an elementary ongoing necessary function of basic Christian doctrine to restore our brothers and sisters in Christ back into full fellowship, and an opportunity to exhibit evidence of God's redeeming mercy and love to those who have not experienced it previously.
This restoration should be a daily practice and priviledge of staff, being independent of whether or not the system is curently functioning at capicity.

 

[Hentenza]

We are not as fair as God....but we continually strive to be so, right?

and yes i remember well the A/SA request forum, and while on staff i made requests on behalf of the members to update the records.

Henry, you and I seem to have a very basic difference of opinion on the importance of expunging an expired history and the reasons for doing so.

i see it as an elementary ongoing necessary function of basic Christian doctrine to restore our brothers and sisters in Christ back into full fellowship, and an opportunity to exhibit evidence of God's redeeming mercy and love to those who have not experienced it previously.
This restoration should be a daily practice and priviledge of staff, being independent of whether or not the system is curently functioning at capicity.

Well, we have what we have. At the moment, and until the systemic issues are resolved, it would just have to work the way we have it. Its fair.

We don't have a difference of opinion since I do agree that they should fall off automatically. When we are given the functionality for that to happen then it will.

 

[~Beauty_from_Pain~]

What's a counseling pm?

 

[pdudgeon]

Well, we have what we have. At the moment, and until the systemic issues are resolved, it would just have to work the way we have it. Its fair.

We don't have a difference of opinion since I do agree that they should fall off automatically. When we are given the functionality for that to happen then it will.

ok Henry. i've shown you a different way that it can work even with the system bonkers as it is now. But you're the one in the driver's seat so if you don't want change then it won't happen. thanks for listening.

 

[Hentenza]

ok Henry. i've shown you a different way that it can work even with the system bonkers as it is now. But you're the one in the driver's seat so if you don't want change then it won't happen. thanks for listening.

Pam, you know that we don't have the manpower to do what you are asking me to do. We have to catch them as they come, however, anyone can go to the msc and ask to have their history looked at. This is the best that we can do with what the Lord has given us to work with for now.

 

[Zecryphon]

Nope. When staff is reported the admins work the report with two action possibilities. If the post is a violation then a letter of council is issued or it could be ruled no violation. If an admin or a chaplain is reported then we, the advisors, will work the report.

Did you mean "a letter of counsel" or "a letter of council". I'm confused as to what the second one would be.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Did you mean "a letter of counsel" or "a letter of council". I'm confused as to what the second one would be.

I need counsel on the councils

http://www.christianforums.com/t7431820/
Church Councils and Precedence of Sees

 

[Hentenza]

Did you mean "a letter of counsel" or "a letter of council". I'm confused as to what the second one would be.

LOL!! What do you think?


*a letter of counsel is the correct one*

 

[Zecryphon]

LOL!! What do you think?

*a letter of counsel is the correct one*

Henry, when I post what I think on this forum or about this forum, I usually get in trouble.

 

[Zecryphon]

I need counsel on the councils

http://www.christianforums.com/t7431820/
Church Councils and Precedence of Sees

Nah, just do whatever the Pope of CF says and you'll be fine... in theory.

 

[Hentenza]

Henry, when I post what I think on this forum or about this forum, I usually get in trouble.

I'm not touching that one.

 

[Zecryphon]

I'm not touching that one.

I've really gotta get this Adamic-nature under control. I could take that statement in a REALLY bad direction! But will refrain from doing so.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Nah, just do whatever the Pope of CF says and you'll be fine... in theory.

Wouldn't that be Pauler

 

[Hentenza]

I've really gotta get this Adamic-nature under control. I could take that statement in a REALLY bad direction! But will refrain from doing so.

LOL! Don't we all.

BTW- You have a clean record.

 

[Zecryphon]

LOL! Don't we all.

BTW- You have a clean record.

Not from what I saw a few days ago. It seemed like a couple things were still in effect and hadn't expired yet. But if I do have a clean record, I'll have to cause some trouble!

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Not from what I saw a few days ago. It seemed like a couple things were still in effect and hadn't expired yet. But if I do have a clean record, I'll have to cause some trouble!

 

[Zecryphon]

Wouldn't that be Pauler

He still owns this place? Well I guess we'll just hafta call him Big Daddy P. then.

 

[pgp_protector]

Well, we are not as fair as God.

The manual process that we have in place does what you are saying relatively good. When a member is reported two things can happen. If the person has expired actions, a request for removal is done in the A/SA request forum (you should remember which forum that was). The expired history is then deleted from their profile. Secondly, the history that is posted in the report is ONLY the active history so expired history is never considered.

Shouldn't expired actions be automatically removed ?
What reason is there for not auto deleting expired actions ?