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That actually sounds like a great way to spend the workday!(I am not quite sure what point you are trying to make...)
When I was in engineering brainstorm sessions,
Well-adjusted engineers that I have worked will concur when an idea is more elegant than their own. It translates to higher efficiency [read: less work].
- Eng#1 would throw out a good, basic plan.
- Eng#2 would throw out a new paradigm and everybody would applaud (wishing that they thought of it, first).
- Eng#3 would throw out an improvement triggered by #2's paradigm. (The new paradigm gave everyone a new direction to go for ideas and #2 did not/could not envision all of its possibilities, immediately.)
- More paradigms and more ideas from within them, etc.
It depends on how one was nurtured, and one's capacity to recognize right from wrong. There is only one truth; people know what is right and wrong. They choose to behave a certain way based on the sum of what they perceive has kept them alive. That may be racism, religion or intellect and everything in between. But, there is only one truth.
The only thing that will change the "problem" of masculinity is a(n other) worldwide "consensus" on masculinity. But, that would be one step from the apocalypse like it always was in history.
Interesting...
I may have to check this person out.
Anger can come in overt or covert forms, and they are both unsettling.
However, if you are around someone with covert form of anger frequently and long enough, their "rage" will eventually slip out in the words they use, and sometimes even in the way they drive.
I don't know how to "diffuse" this kind of anger except be as nice as I can in my wording of "No."
What makes you think men are angry as opposed to what? Are there more angry men than women?What are the root causes of male disenfranchisement? How do we help them manage their anger in a healthy way? How have you tackled this within yourself or with others?
Please share your thoughts.
I use this video to explain it to those outside of Orthodoxy (and to show my ecumenical spirit).
Probably the best ways of dealing with this is 1) to approach anger in a more measured way before you are tempted to loose your temper.
we make the decision to give things up to God etc. and let him manage it. Basically "carry out cross" so to speak.
That's true too...they will think they can get away with it with me.If you establish a pattern of backing down that could encourage more aggression.
What makes you think men are angry as opposed to what? Are there more angry men than women?
Just trying to understand your motivation.A question was posed and many men have replied. I made no comparison between the sexes.
Maybe on the surface, we should attack conformity first - recognize that being an individual and different is actually productive.
However, that would demand an entire and fundamental change of our political, economic, and social systems. So, unless you are strong enough to literally be an island, one may find it better to conform in some sort of way - even if it is because of survival reasons.
Both men and women handicap themselves with logic and reason - as "crazy" as that sounds.
Under ideal situations, I have learned to express an [ambivalent?] anger.I don’t know when I became so vehement about anger. But its a quality I do not want in my presence. I suspect its unpredictability is a factor.
The actual extremists who actually apply and/or incite violence? On either side? (or perhaps any side, since I think there are several axes that people fall onto) I think there's a certain level of individual who stops having rational goals in mind. They just rage for the sake of raging.
The so-called alt-Right?
What the real ones want is exactly what they say: Complete and total social equality of every single human being.
They're just deluded into thinking that robbing from the rich to give to the poor will accomplish it rather than just irritating the wounds further.
The ones who just buy into this stuff because they see personal advantage in it? They aren't self-aware enough to know what they want. They're rank opportunists who won't even admit they're opportunists. (I love me some opportunism, so long as you're up front about what both parties get from the deal, but so many SJW types aren't.) They are slaves to their passions.
Anger in men, IMO, is usually frustration coming out sideways. We want to be able to fix everything in life and we of course, are not capable of doing that.
I sometimes wonder if we carry Adam's regret at his inaction to save the world from Satan's invasion, in some way. I don't know how else to explain how frustrated I get when I am helpless to fix a situation. Of course, like all sin, it's really rooted in pride.
I also think the modern male bashing isn't helping at all. The whole "toxic Masculinity" bit is really a joke.
What we need is a return to true morals, and that doesn't equal less masculinity. It requires more, IMO.
I brought my son and the pills to our police station, so he could face the consequences and we could make it clear that we weren't supporting that behavior.
A week or two later, he announced his retirement. And the pharmacist left the area, too. On two separate occasions before he quit, he warned me that I should be careful of "very dangerous people" in our town. It felt like a warning more than a threat.
Wow. I'm impressed with the way you "manage" the thread you started. Here and there a subtle re-direction away from polemics for the sake of polemics, and toward thoughtfulness.You did the right thing. Hopefully, he’s learned his lesson.
That was the Lord’s doing. He unveils the hidden things. I’m glad you followed your hunch.
Wow. I'm impressed with the way you "manage" the thread you started. Here and there a subtle re-direction away from polemics for the sake of polemics, and toward thoughtfulness.
While I've met very few angry men, the only one I can think of just seemed to need some time. On a related question: holding on to anger is a serious sin. If we meet someone holding on to anger (regardless of gender) what you are seeing if you see that somewhere is someone in real need for divine intervention. Best to pray for them.What are the root causes of male disenfranchisement? How do we help them manage their anger in a healthy way? How have you tackled this within yourself or with others?
Please share your thoughts.
there are a lot of women who aren't Ellen Ripley but seem to think they should get Ellen Ripley's perks just because they are female and belong to a generation of humans that has bucked thousands of years of evolutionary conditioning and decided, against all evidence to the contrary, that male bodies and female bodies are just arbitrary vessels for completely sexless Platonic souls that are essentially identical. Well, we're not sexless souls, and Ellen Ripley had to earn the respect we have for her character through her intelligent and ethically conscious decision-making. She didn't selectively play the "ah, I'm a defenseless damsel" card to cost men their jobs with frivolous sexual harassment claims and then turn around act all tough once she was at the top of the heap. She just acted tough the whole way through. And that's why she lived in the escape pod whereas Dallas died in the vents. That's why we cheer for her. If you're not willing to act tough the whole way through, don't expect people to cheer.
The fact that men play the dumb villain in society, from the #metoo movement to the dumb father on sit-coms, men are under consistent attack.
And they want to be able to talk about the uncomfortable facts about human evolution and not be punished for it (one sentiment I do share), such as the fact that women are, on average, more likely to prioritize the wealth of a suitor as a factor in sexual attraction, or the fact that men, on average the world 'round, tend to select for an hourglass figure.
While I've met very few angry men, the only one I can think of just seemed to need some time. On a related question: holding on to anger is a serious sin. If we meet someone holding on to anger (regardless of gender) what you are seeing if you see that somewhere is someone in real need for divine intervention. Best to pray for them.
The happiest marriages I have seen are where the wife and husband can both express their anger towards each other ... and then forgive each other.
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