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How could a loving God allow such horrific things to happen to His little creatures all over the world?
First some basic definitions,
Sin is anything not in the expressed will of God.

Evil is a malicious intent to be outside of God's expressed will

Not all sin is evil but all evil is sin.

Free Will is the ability to choose whether or not to be in God's expressed will. In other words it is the ability to sin.
So why are we allowed to be evil? Because by allowing us to be as far outside of God's expressed will as our hearts will allow, this proves or is the result of true free will. If we had limits on what we could do then truly we would not have real choice.

Why do bad things happen to "good" people? Because we were given the freedom to make this world, this life into what ever we wanted it to be. We chose to live in a fallen world where our choices take precedent, over God's expressed will. In short bad things happen to good people because "we" (as masters of our own fate) allow them to happen.

Why did God give us this world to plunder? So that we may be given the choice as to where we want to spend our eternity. Also so we will be prepared to live an eternity with God if we so chose.

In order for us to choose, we must have something to choose from. In this case it is between God's expressed will, and sin.

In order for the choices we make to mean something they must indeed be our choices. Evil or the ability to be as evil as we want to be, is the proof that we indeed have that freedom. What would be the point of giving us all this choice, if God simply took it all back if someone "sinned too much?"

In order for our choice to be real, they must have consequences. In this case the raped stay raped, The unrepentant sinner faces God's wrath, and gets to spend an eternity in Hell for it. In the case of the repentant sinner Even his sins has consequences, in that Jesus was beaten and hanged on a cross for those sins.

I believe maybe one of the other reasons, Bad things happen to "good" people, is as a reminder, of the ultimate "bad thing" that happened to the Good Jesus Christ. For me this brings home with a little more meaning what the sacrifice of Christ actually was. When you look at the innocents lost in a child that has been raped, it can give you some of the idea of what it cost God to forgive your sins.

Please don't give me the whole 'it's not God, it's Satan' routine, I know that. I'm asking a broader question. Like why did God even create Satan in the first place?
To show us that if we simply were created to live in Heaven we too would eventually rebel. We need this life to prove to ourselves that we want to be with God, and to lean how to be with God..

Satan is not the God of evil. He simply represents it. It is the symbol of evil because He completely opposed the expressed will of God. Satan's power is very limited. He is not another God.

Why would God give us a free will to choose whether or not to sin, since He KNOWS we're gonna? I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything, but to me it just seems like selfishness. Like God lets horrible things happen to us just so He can rescue us and get glory for it...
There is no rescue in this life. He may take us out of the heat for a while or even bring us relief, but make no mistake, so long as you draw breath you are in the furnace being forged, into the being who is to spend eternity with God.

We are lazy, and will not grow spiritually if left unattended. We have to be pruned and shaped through hardship, so as to become the spiritual beings we need to be in order to spend an eternity with God.

... but every time I hear about something terrible happening to someone, especially a child or an animal who are completely innocent, I shake my fist at God. Not Satan, God. After all, God's in charge; Satan isn't almighty, he's a created being, who can only do what he's allowed to...
The destruction of innocents is only apart of what Christ endured to give you the freedom to be angry at God. You contribute to this fallen world just like the man who would rape a little girl does. As do we all, this is why we need to look at price the raped little girl payed to remind us of the true cost of the forgiveness of our sins. We also need to strive to understand what Price Jesus actually payed, beyond the cliché' that we recite when we are at church.

This is a huge stumbling point for me; I just can't bear the thought of the God I love not preventing absolutely nightmarish things from happening..when He could at the snap of His fingers.. it just seems so cruel..
Again if He did not spare his only Son...
Why should we be allowed to turn that sacrifice into a dry or meaningless event. Sin is Real, Evil is very real, we should have a personal reminder of what that cost God to process and forgive.
If you are angery, can you imagine all that had to happen for God to get to the point where Christ had to die for your sins?

So, you see, God does everything for His own glory, even create evil people who are destined to go to hell just so He can show His power. Matthew 25:31-46 also talks about pre-destiny. He created Satan to be evil, the Bible says so. Why would God create a destroyer for our world?
God did not create evil, He allows it.

That's how He intended it. How can anyone on here say that isn't selfish??
Yes I can, even you can, but only if you look past your personal theologies that paints God as selfish.

I'm one person; the whole world is suffering. I can't help everyone, even though I desperately want to!
You are not the savior of the world, so stop trying to be. Perhaps you are here to save one person. Will you forsake that one soul because you can not save the whole world?

It torments me so much to think that no matter what I do, it's impossible for me to help all those that need it..I think, I'm so small and God's so big, why doesn't He do anything to help?? And then I remember, He created it to be this way... what kind of God does that??? A selfish one..
Help to what end? Should He make it so we all have a long and healthy life, but because we did not spiritually mature, we all get sent to Hell or even if He lets us all into heaven. do you not think the spiritually immature will not simply rebel later and He cast us all into hell anyway? Isn't this what happened to Satan and His angels? Are you better than an angel of God specifically created to live at his side? Do you think the rest of humanity is?

What is the purpose of living a good 70 years if it dooms us to an eternity in Hell? Why would you wish this on anyone?

I know there's a whole heck of a lot that I don't understand. I know God's ways are above our own. Don't get me wrong. I love God, with all my heart. But I'm so torn up inside, I don't know what I'm supposed to do..
Simply approach this and God with an open mind and ask for clarity
 
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How could a loving God allow such horrific things to happen to His little creatures all over the world?
I don't know, but a good number of people who have had truly terrible things happen to them have strong faith in God and in his goodness. If they can go through terrible things like sexual abuse, betrayal by family members, seeing their parents murdered, and believe in God's goodness, then why can't you?

Like why did God even create Satan in the first place? Why would God give us a free will to choose whether or not to sin, since He KNOWS we're gonna? I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything, but to me it just seems like selfishness. Like God lets horrible things happen to us just so He can rescue us and get glory for it...
That doesn't wash with Scripture.

"To obey is better than sacrifice,
and to heed is better than the fat of rams.
For rebellion is like the sin of divination,
and arrogance like the evil of idolatry. " - 1 Sam 15:22b-23a

The lesson here is that God would rather have people obey his word in the first place than disobey and sacrifice to make it better. God prizes obedience very highly. But what you're insinuating is that God is OK with sin, it's part of the plan to get him more glory. That's completely at odds with this Scripture and many others, including:

"For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!" - Ezekiel 18:32

So not only does God prize obedience, he takes no pleasure in death and destruction. This again, is the opposite of what your view here is painting him as - someone who just throws lives away because he gets something out of it.

The point is why create a situation where healing is required anyway?
You're assuming God created that situation. The Bible tells us what God created: The trees, the animals, the oceans, the atmosphere, people - and it was good. People were good. But we disobeyed God's ways, and messed it all up. God doesn't sin against people. People do that.

but every time I hear about something terrible happening to someone, especially a child or an animal who are completely innocent, I shake my fist at God. Not satan, God. After all, God's in charge; Satan isn't almighty, he's a created being, who can only do what he's allowed to...
So you would shake your fist at God, who hates sin rather than Satan, who is a true sadist and promotes even the most vile sins for his own pleasure?

Ok, to those who have said things like "God didn't make Satan the way he is. Satan chose to be who he is." That's not even Biblical. Isaiah 54:16-"See, it is I who created the blacksmith who fans the coals into flame and forges a weapon fit for its work. And it is I who have created the destroyer to work havoc;"
And that verse doesn't refer to Satan. It refers to soldiers. Israel had a history of being punished with war for all kinds of terrible sins and injustices. They were familiar with what enemy soldiers could do to them and their land. The point of that verse is that no army can thwart God. God created all the angels. Some of them disobeyed him and rebelled against him. But the Bible does not say that Satan was created for that express purpose.

Like I said. Selfish. He lets people suffer, animals, children...all so He can rescue some and get glory and punish others in an eternal firey hell to show His power and what happens to those who dare disobey Him. Creation's suffering is for the Creator's glory, period. That's how He intended it. How can anyone on here say that isn't selfish??
God is able to get glory out of a fallen world, but would he not get more glory if there were more obedience? If he would, then that disproves the notion that he lets this happen for the purpose of getting more glory. And that leaves us with two options: That he isn't smart enough to see this, or that he really isn't all that selfish after all. If he's not smart enough to see this, then that would logically mean that he's not omniscient, and if he's not omniscient, that takes some of the edge off his so-called culpability in the problem of evil. But God is omniscient according to Scripture. If he's omniscient, that would explain that he knows he would get at least as much, if not more glory from more people being obedient. Which means he knows he's leaving some glory on the table by allowing evil to exist. Which defeats the notion that he is selfishly pursuing glory at the expense of innocent people who suffer.

I'm so small and God's so big, why doesn't He do anything to help??
Maybe he does a lot more to help than you give him credit for, ever think of that?
 
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In order for our choice to be real, they must have consequences. In this case the raped stay raped, The unrepentant sinner faces God's wrath, and gets to spend an eternity in Hell for it. In the case of the repentant sinner Even his sins has consequences, in that Jesus was beaten and hanged on a cross for those sins.

If the only alternative Choice is ETERNAL Hell, that's not much of a REAL Choice is it?
 
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I will go into detail later in another post about the broader question but for now I will tell you that no one deserves to die. Osama did evil things and was and evil man yet I would not for him to die and god also still loves him. But God let's some things happen because of the sin people have committed or the sin their leaders or parents have committed. I'm not saying that japan deserves anything that came upon them at all and that that is why god did it, but that could have something to do with the situation, and other ones.

Hope that helps a little.
God bless,
Dave.
 
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Wow! It's been a long time since I've checked here. Most of these answers are very positive and uplifting, and not to mention wise. Thanks for helping me see things in a different light. I'm telling you, it really helps to hear other viewpoints.

However one reply is the exact opposite of a loving answer....

Sketcher, here is my response to you:

Originally Posted by Sketcher:
I don't know, but a good number of people who have had truly terrible things happen to them have strong faith in God and in his goodness. If they can go through terrible things like sexual abuse, betrayal by family members, seeing their parents murdered, and believe in God's goodness, then why can't you?

I don’t know if you’re trying to use “tough love”, but to be honest, your answer is pretty rude. Maybe some people have stronger faith than I do, but please don’t condemn me for questioning God’s goodness when I have been through and have seen so much suffering. The entire point of my post was the fact that I am struggling to believe that God is good. I’m allowed to question if I believe in His goodness whether you like it or not, and frankly your answer seems downright arrogant. Please learn to use empathy with people like me; people who suffer and struggle with our faith. I may not be a spiritual giant, but I am honest and I poured out my heart here, so don’t disrespect me please.

Originally Posted by Sketcher:
The lesson here is that God would rather have people obey his word in the first place than disobey and sacrifice to make it better. God prizes obedience very highly. But what you're insinuating is that God is OK with sin, it's part of the plan to get him more glory. That's completely at odds with this Scripture and many others..

So not only does God prize obedience, he takes no pleasure in death and destruction. This again, is the opposite of what your view here is painting him as - someone who just throws lives away because he gets something out of it.

While I sort of agree with this, my point is more about why do people suffer BEFORE they can disobey God? Why are children born disabled? What about the mentally handicapped and people who have never even heard of the Bible? And why do bad things happen to people who are very obedient to God? Doesn’t the Bible say that He uses our pain to bring us closer to Him? Why did He allow sin to overtake His world in the first place? Why did all of humanity fall into sin because Adam and Eve sinned? And after all, isn’t God’s glory most important to Him, and that’s why He lets evil have it’s fun so in the end He can defeat His enemy? Also I have to point out, I wasn’t insinuating in any way that God is ok with sin, I just wonder why He’d create an enemy for Himself, or allow it to develop, just so He can defeat it, if that is indeed what happened?

I’m impressed with your knowledge of Scripture, but you’re distorting what my actual point is. Also let’s get something clear. I’m not trying to paint God as a villain, I’m trying to UNDERSTAND. I don’t know everything and obviously neither do you. I don’t need logic. I need FAITH, but I’m at a loss.

Originally Posted by Sketcher:
You're assuming God created that situation. The Bible tells us what God created: The trees, the animals, the oceans, the atmosphere, people - and it was good. People were good. But we disobeyed God's ways, and messed it all up. God doesn't sin against people. People do that.

If we were so good, why did we disobey God’s ways in the first place? I’m totally aware that God doesn’t sin, and people are full of sin and selfishness. But the point is, God allows it. You can’t say that He doesn’t, because that would mean He is not all-powerful. I’m not saying He likes sin, but it’s obvious He has let sin overtake the world. I’m just saying it seems selfish to me.

Originally Posted by Sketcher:
So you would shake your fist at God, who hates sin rather than Satan, who is a true sadist and promotes even the most vile sins for his own pleasure?

Yes, I shake my fist at God for allowing or, even worse, creating such a being as Satan. God’s in charge. Of everything, good, bad, even Satan. Read the book of Job.

Originally Posted by Sketcher:
The point of that verse is that no army can thwart God. God created all the angels. Some of them disobeyed him and rebelled against him. But the Bible does not say that Satan was created for that express purpose.

Satan is a destroyer. God created Him. Satan is a created being with limited power. God is the Creator almighty. Satan does evil, God allows it. Pretty simple. Nothing can happen unless God willed it to. He subjected this world to suffering, for His purposes. I’m not saying He’s evil, but, it sure makes me question Him at times. Again, book of Job, perfect example. If you’re insinuating that God doesn’t control evil, you’re going against Scripture.

Amos 9:1-6
1 I saw the Lord standing by the altar, and He said:


“ Strike the doorposts, that the thresholds may shake,
And break them on the heads of them all.
I will slay the last of them with the sword.
He who flees from them shall not get away,
And he who escapes from them shall not be delivered.
2 “ Though they dig into hell,[a]
From there My hand shall take them;
Though they climb up to heaven,
From there I will bring them down;
3 And though they hide themselves on top of Carmel,
From there I will search and take them;
Though they hide from My sight at the bottom of the sea,
From there I will command the serpent, and it shall bite them;
4 Though they go into captivity before their enemies,
From there I will command the sword,
And it shall slay them.
I will set My eyes on them for harm and not for good.”
5 The Lord GOD of hosts,
He who touches the earth and it melts,
And all who dwell there mourn;
All of it shall swell like the River,
And subside like the River of Egypt.
6 He who builds His layers in the sky,
And has founded His strata in the earth;
Who calls for the waters of the sea,
And pours them out on the face of the earth—
The LORD is His name.

Originally Posted by Sketcher:
God is able to get glory out of a fallen world, but would he not get more glory if there were more obedience? If he would, then that disproves the notion that he lets this happen for the purpose of getting more glory. And that leaves us with two options: That he isn't smart enough to see this, or that he really isn't all that selfish after all. If he's not smart enough to see this, then that would logically mean that he's not omniscient, and if he's not omniscient, that takes some of the edge off his so-called culpability in the problem of evil. But God is omniscient according to Scripture. If he's omniscient, that would explain that he knows he would get at least as much, if not more glory from more people being obedient. Which means he knows he's leaving some glory on the table by allowing evil to exist. Which defeats the notion that he is selfishly pursuing glory at the expense of innocent people who suffer.

The Bible talks about people being objects of mercy and objects of wrath. So actually, He WOULD get more glory from a fallen world in two ways: mercy and wrath. He is glorified to the objects of His mercy by rescuing them and redeeming them. He is glorified to the objects of His wrath by inflicting eternal, holy punishment on His sinful enemies. So no, your point does not defeat mine.
I can't leave out the fact that you seem to basically have said that because God can redeem people, He is ultimately not selfish, and we are the ones causing our own misery. Hmm. That’s not Biblical. What about the people who go to hell? For eternity? I'm sure they would disagree with you. Why would God even create such a place as hell? The Bible says to make his power known. And that's not selfish to you? What if God is selfish because He’s allowed to be, and His selfishness is not the same thing as ours? Our selfishness is sinful and prideful… Maybe I’m answering my own question by assuming God glorifies Himself, at the expense of His creation (which He has the right to do, being the Creator and all) but ultimately He rescues and shows benevolence towards the innocent, and wrath towards evil.
Just seems like the opposite sometimes. Messed up world.

Originally Posted by Sketcher:
Maybe he does a lot more to help than you give him credit for, ever think of that?

Obviously I do think deeply about God, more than you could understand. I already said I love Him, and I don't have to explain myself to you, I am going through a severe faith crisis, and you may not be able to answer all my questions but you can at least show me support and love. I’m getting judgmental vibes from you. Your reply was not sensitive at all. If you don't know how to talk to hurting people, it's better for you refrain from saying anything. Maybe eat some humble pie, and realize that all the logic in the world can't explain pain to the heart of someone who suffers.


Almost everyone else though, thanks again for your wisdom and kind words. I'm glad there are people who empathize with me. It really helps to feel like you aren't alone. Please keep me in your prayers. And please only respond if you can do so with compassion for my pain, and not anger at my words. I'm struggling with my faith and I just need love and simple kind words; not a heated debate over Scripture.
God bless.
 
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all the logic in the world can't explain pain to the heart of someone who suffers.

It really helps to feel like you aren't alone. Please keep me in your prayers. And please only respond if you can do so with compassion for my pain,

Some reminders:

when the 3 Hebrew children were thrown into the furnace, Jesus was with them. A song brings out the fact that since Jesus is Eternal, the significance of this is that Jesus is still in the furnace of our afflictions!

I think the Cross says this to us ...

"if so be that we suffer with [him], that we may be also glorified together." (Romans 8:17)
 
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Some reminders:

when the 3 Hebrew children were thrown into the furnace, Jesus was with them. A song brings out the fact that since Jesus is Eternal, the significance of this is that Jesus is still in the furnace of our afflictions!

I think the Cross says this to us ...

"if so be that we suffer with [him], that we may be also glorified together." (Romans 8:17)

Thanks, I just wish I could feel Him in my storm.. but I can't. Almost a year after my original post, I'm still in the same place. I know God works inside us and brings change we can't personally see; if that's the case He must be changing me into an entirely new person, bc there seems to be no end to this storm.. I'm definitely on that narrow road.

If this is some kind of test where I'm supposed to grow spiritually, I've failed through and through. God couldn't be more distant. And I'm tired of trying to draw near to an elusive God. I'm so tired of being in so much pain and feeling like God doesn't care. Even though I've only been a Christian for a few years, I have never struggled as much with anything as I am with my faith. It's almost impossible for me to see God as anything but selfish.

I don't mean to come across as a whiner or a weak Christian (even though I probably am). But, this is where I'm at spiritually. No sugar-coating. I feel like I'm fighting a losing battle everyday.. just... gahhh I am so fed up. What's the point of turning to God if He's not there for me??

Ok I'm done complaining for now. :sorry:
 
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Sister, my heart goes out to you! There are times I have answers for people I've never met, and the Lord works powerfully. In this case it may be that even if there were some "answer," it still might not be what you need. As you say, He IS changing all of us into "entirely new people," and often along lines we don't perceive.

I know my place in the Body, and it seems I need to draw on that and pour my heart out a bit, if I may. I'm a musician, and also an armour-bearer. It's an interesting and challenging combination. From my own experience, I recommend (and ask if you've ever tried) tearing into Psalms, the parts that Praise God over and over. Maybe start with Psalm 150, read it aloud remembering that David sang his heart out to the Lord playing along on a "harp," making it up as he went. Personally i can't believe the idea is anything but to work up our own emotions, in the specific direction of (ultimately) worship.

Realize that the Lord's battle strategy was often to place the singers first, even in front of any armed warriors! Without debating if any of that is historical fact, just realize the present day application here ... be prepared for a battle. Use your soul, (emotions, mind, awareness, etc) intentionally join it to your body via singing or at least reading aloud with determination, and the 2 will "gang up" on your own spirit, bringing it into alignment with the Lord, our risen Christ, via the Holy Spirit.

Expect this to take a while. When Psalm 150 proves to not be enough, work backwards to Psalm 149, and when you encounter a chapter that doesn't seem to focus in this repetitive direction skip that one and go to the previous. If you need to do this as often as possible for days, weeks or even months, I think you'll find it worthwhile. Not at the expense of everything else you could do, but as a worthwhile effort. In this process you'll encounter David "pouring out his complaint to the Lord," and don't shy away from that! You'll see David using G-d as his own personal psychotherapist, just like he was "on the couch" in a modern office ^_^ Follow his lead, but don't be surprised when your own "issues" surface, and go ahead and deviate from reading to journey into your own words. David gives us many good templates for this!

I hope I've given you some idea of how to draw close to G-d in your difficult situation? :pray: Are you part of a good "home" Church?
 
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Thanks.. believe me you are helping; I've reread your post several times to let it sink in. Funny thing, after my last post, I started getting a revelation of my heart... I don't really know how to explain it, other than I felt that I was the one being selfish because I'm unable to see how much God loves me, and that He's really selfless for putting up with me. If I over-think it tho, it goes away. But it's the first time in a very long time that I've been able to feel anything other than frustration with God.

I'd love to dig into the Psalms, that's what I used to do whenever I was upset. But tbh, I have seriously cut down on my Bible-reading. I try, I honestly do, but I always seem to get irritated, think that God seems pretty aloof and reading about those who praise Him even in the midst of suffering only adds fuel to the fire. I can't bring worship out of my emotions. Something just won't click.

I do belong to a great church, and I occasionally still get something out of the sermons, but it's always just temporary. Nothing that really sticks, you know? As soon as something bad happens, to me or anyone, I go right back to that rant that God's selfish and should be cut out of my life. It's so hard for me to look pain in the face still believe God is good. I know I must sound like the lamest Christian for saying that, but it's just how I feel.

I don't know what it's going to take to pull me out of this spiritual funk, but I hope it's nothing too drastic. :D
 
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The very reason why God created humans is to establish a relationship with us.. that's all he wants! :) Just like how us humans want to be loved and have relationships with the people we care for, God wants to have a GENUINE relationship.. I say genuine because he doesn't want robots.. If you have every come into contact with a robot, you would know how repetitive and boring it is! :D God, however, wants a relationship with each and every human just like we do with our parents, friends, and other loved ones.. This can only be done through free will, i.e, giving us the option to chose God or his opposite (Which is evil!) You will often see God is mentioned as "The Light" in the Bible and that is because his absence, i.e, no light or darkness, is what evil is! As our creator, he expects us to follow his commands.. like we command a robot or a remote-controlled object.. but the difference is, we have a conscience, robots do not.. Horrible things are happening to us because of the choices people make in this world.. It is also because of our own sins! We are not perfect and our sins cause most of the calamities and suffering of this world! Also, compared to what we endure in this world, the eternal life after physical death is immeasurably much greater and purer than our sinful, chaotic, and uncaring earthly lives.. hope my writing sheds some new light!

God bless! :)
 
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this was explained to me a few years ago. lets see how much i remember. if i forget things or they do not make sense then i will speak to my teacher and have him retell me so i can get the full truth to you.

God is a loving God. lucifer had God's ear but how pride entered him is uncertain but we do know that pride did enter him and started his downward fall. lucifer was created for a purpose. he was a musical being that had music built into him(unsure atm what scripture that is but i can find out if you like). why God did not destroy him right off is unknown but there are theories. but God has already decided satan's fate.

God wanted a person to have a relationship with. from what i am told angels do only as they are told by God. well God wanted more so he created man to fellowship with. in order to have a person that can fellowship with him like God wanted that person has to have a free will. man was not supposed to fall into sin. in order to make sure God allowed us to make our own decisions God has to make the tree of knowledge of good and evil. in order for us to commune with God the way he wanted he created us like him. before the fall of mankind we were whole in body, soul, and spirit. but when sin came upon mankind our whole being was shattered. look at it like the spirit is the nucleus and everything else we are rotates around the nucleus. before we sinned God held us in his hand but when we sinned our spirit died and everything else we are was shattered because we were no longer held together by our spirit. without the spirit alive within God could not be within us any longer so we could no longer commune with him spiritually. and because of sin it hardened our hearts against God so that over time we were no longer able to hear God except through those that God appointed as his mouth pieces. then Jesus can along and reestablished our spirit within those that accept him as Lord. Jesus came as the second adam in all ways except he never sinned. this gave Jesus back the authority over the earth. then he died for our sins so Jesus could give us back the authority we had before the fall of the first adam. but in order for that to happen we need to choose which kingdom we will serve. God gave us all power and ability and provided us with everything we need to live victoriously in our walk with Christ.

people ask why does God let evil happen? God doesn't let evil happen. God talks to us all the time but we are so hardened against him that we can't hear him. you may wonder why God lets bad things happen to others and he does not do anything about it. but God did do something about it. God put you, me, and everyone else here on earth to make the earth a better place but we chose to do nothing about it so instead of blaming ourselves we blame God. God could make use do what he wants but if he does then we are no longer be free willed but would be like robots. God is looking for those that want a relationship with him. most christians are lukewarm because they serve both the kingdom of heaven and the kingdom of satan. the bible teaches that a kingdom divided against itself will fall which is why most christians have so little power in their lives, don't get prayers answered, and ect. right now i have reached a place in God that i see my own injuries healed instantly, i hear God speaking to me all the time when i take the time to listen, and i am working on building my confidence up enough to go out and do these same signs, wonders, and miracles i see in my life happen in others lives too. i don't mean to boast but only to show you that there is a place in God that as you start to trust and believe in the word of God and keep staying hot for God that he will show you these things too. but we are too interested in the world to spend the time like we should with God. i spend about 6 hours reading the word, studying the word, listening for what God has to say, and ect. how much time in your day do you find to spend with God? when is the last time we got someone saved? how often are your prayers answered? when was the last time God spoke to you? like i said i am not boasting but trying to wet your appetite for what God is able to do if you will just put him first. if you do all or more then what i stated i am ecstatic for you but most of us don't take the time to really seek God's face. there is a saying that if you really want to do something that you will find the time for it. that is a true saying.

i can't stress enough that we were put on earth to fix it but we seem to be failing in our duty. we need to become mighty men of God so we can fix all that the devil has caused within this world but the devil has done his job well by convincing christians that they are powerless. without the power of God, even the easiest job becomes difficult.
 
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