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a while ago 2 friends of mine started dating and it exploded and ended really bad. i was caught in the middle and got so irritated at them. ever since then my patience for people has been non existent. have yall ever been so affected by people that it's hardened your heart to the point of changing your outlook on life? people just annoy the crap out of me all the time now. it's like i have no love. i don't know where it went. my tolerance level is invisble. i don't know if it's because of stress and being overwhelmed and not really having much time to myself lately or if it's me being upset at the fact that my standards/morals aren't like my friends and family and its driving me insane. i guess it's a combination of all of them. i don't know. i'm so angry all the time. i get mad real easily, but before my friends dating thing i was fine. it would take a ton for me to be mad at something or someone. i feel like i have no idea who i am. i don't understand what's going on. it's so frustrating!! i've cussed more this month than i have in my entire life. i just want to be alone for a while. would that fix anything, though?
 

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I find that when I get angry the best thing to do is Pray and read the Bible.

Ephesians 4:26-27, "If you are angry, don't sin by nursing your grudge. Don't let the sun go down with you still angry—get over it quickly; For when you are angry you give a mighty foothold to the devil."

I Peter 3:9, "Don't repay evil for evil. Don't snap back at those who say unkind things about you. Instead, pray for God's help for them, for we are to be kind to others, and God will bless us for it."
 
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Ive been the same way, not the same senario but I was affected by how I was treated a few years back. I still struggle with forgiveness. See my friends were the ones mistreating me, and we are cool now but just thinking of what went on then i get mad still. But i have also become emotionally calloused. I think its time to bury the hatchet. When anger sets into your mind it festers like rot. Maybe we both can try to let our problems go.

PM me if you need to talk
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The world is full of darkness, and hatred. We are here to spread love and light, the meaning of life is to love and help others. If we don't understand that we can get overwhelmed by its bad influence and turn into a state of hell , in which you are currently in. The result will be that you will only feel miserable, that probably already occured and is the reason why you are posting here. There's only one thing in the entire universe that can bring you happynes, which is LOVE. therefore help and love others, and have compassion for the unconsious actions of other people who do not have God in their hearts.
 
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TAKE THE SWORD OF THE SPIRIT!

All these verses are from KJV from bible from http://www.biblegateway.com except the ones from other sites? (I think you will know what I am typing about when you continue reading)


James 1:20
For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.

Proverbs 14:29
He that is slow to wrath is of great understanding: but he that is hasty of spirit exalteth folly.

Ecclesiastes 7:9
Be not hasty in thy spirit to be angry: for anger resteth in the bosom of fools.

Proverbs 27:4
Wrath is cruel, and anger is outrageous; but who is able to stand before envy?

Psalm 37:8
Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise to do evil.

Maybe you should read all of Psalm 37 - We can all be evil doers at times.. I dont want you to read this self-righteous and relate these to specific people in your life.. though I might read it like that sometimes I think maybe you should not..

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psa 37;&version=9;

Colossians 3:8
But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.

Again, maybe you should read all of Colossians 3
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=58&chapter=3&version=9


I dont know if this site memoryversecards.com with NJKV verses is always good and safe to use but this site

http://www.memoryversecards.com/htm\nkjv_thetongue.htm

Seems good to me..

This site also seems very good to me.. I wander which bible they got the verses from.. NKJV too? but again I dont know if the site victorylifechurch.org teaches everything right always.. e.g me being orthodox christian I dont believe we have to speak tongues to be saved I dont know if thats what they are saying exacly.. and I dont know if much people speak tongues today..
Nevertheless I think the verses should be very helpful

http://www.victorylifechurch.org/pdf/anger_overcoming.pdf


I should save this for me?
 
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Dealing With Anger...God's Way



Everybody has to deal with anger from time to time. But how is the best way to handle it? To answer that question, we first must understand what anger really is. Anger is an emotion often characterized by feelings of great displeasure, indignation, hostility, wrath, and vengeance. Many times, anger is how we express our dissatisfaction with life. It is defined in the Greek as the strongest of all passions. Anger begins with a feeling that often is expressed in words or actions. We feel something, and it causes us to say or do something.

GET TO THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM

Anger is the fruit of rotten roots. One of the primary roots of anger probably stems from the family. Angry people come from angry families because they learn from their role models and perpetuate the same behavior in their own lives... eventually passing it on to their children.

OTHER ROOTS OF ANGER INCLUDE:

Injustice—when people mistreat us and we feel there is nothing we can do about it, we get angry because we feel it isn't fair. As much as we would like to change the situation or the person who is treating us badly, we can't. People can't change people, only God can change people. So it's best to put your energy into praying for the offender.

Strife—which is hidden, repressed anger, begins with judgment, gossip, talebearing, backbiting, and thinking too highly of one's self. Strife is often exhibited in arguing, bickering, heated disagreements, and angry undercurrents.

Impatience—often produces anger when we can't get what we want when we want it. When others impede our progress or slow us down, it is easy to become impatient. Most of us struggle with impatience on a daily basis simply because of today's fast-paced world.

Abuse of any kind—sexual, physical, verbal, emotional, or mental almost always leads to anger. All of these abuses are injustices, and injustice eventually leaves the abused feeling helpless and angry. Abuse of this kind cannot be ignored. You must deal with it and process it before you can get rid of it.

Unmet needs—can also produce anger. We all have needs that can and should be met by those closest to us. However, others cannot know and understand our needs unless we communicate with them. But even then they may sometimes fail to meet our needs. So the answer is to go to God with your needs and quit looking to other people.

Jealousy—anger caused by jealousy was one of the first negative emotions mentioned in the Bible. Genesis 4 tells us that Cain killed his brother Abel because he was jealous to the point of being angry. This is one of the more extreme results of jealousy, but it serves to remind us of how dangerous jealousy can be.

Many people are afraid that someone else may get ahead of them. They think their importance in the world depends on their job or their position in the church. Jealousy causes them to try to be important in the eyes of man. If you have this problem, understand that God has you where you are now for a reason. He knows what is in your future, and He may have you in training for it right now. There is a big difference between being able and being ready to do a specific thing. So don't despise the days of small beginnings. Remember that we must answer to God. Our rewards come from obeying the specific callings He has placed on our lives not from the great things we manage to accomplish as far as the world is concerned. Other roots that lead to anger include insecurity, fear of confrontation, and a feeling of being controlled by a job or other people and their problems. I used to get mad at people who controlled me until God told me one day, "You are just as guilty as they are because you're letting them do it." We must not put excessive pressure on ourselves by making too many commitments just because we don't want to say no to someone.

MASKS OF ANGER

Sometimes we use masks to cover up something that we don't want anybody to see. If we are harboring anger, we think masking it will keep others from knowing the real us. So we hide behind a variety of masks in an attempt to trick people into thinking we're something or someone that we're not. I have discovered that people respect you more if you share your real self with them than if you try to hide everything and act like you've got it all together. After all, people can tell when something is not right. You may think you're hiding your anger, but it will eventually find a way to come out either in voice tone, body language, or attitudes. Some people use the cold shoulder mask. When someone makes them angry, they may say they have forgiven them but they become cold and show no warmth or emotion in dealing with that individual. These people live a lonely existence, because they are so afraid of being hurt that they avoid any close and meaningful relationship. This is a classic example of "choosing your pain." This kind of person chooses the pain of living an isolated, lonely life instead of working through the problem and determining to develop good friendships. Other people like to use the silent treatment mask. These are the folks who say they're not angry with you, yet they refuse to talk to you... or they communicate only when it is absolutely necessary, usually with a grunt or nod. When people avoid being with, touching, or doing things for the individual they're angry at, they're hiding behind a mask. But this is not the answer.

FACE THE TRUTH...AND CHOOSE YOUR PAIN

If you want the great and mighty things God has for you, you must get to the root of anger and deal with it. You must get rid of the masks and face the things that happened in your life to make you the way you are today. Admit that you can't change by yourself. Until the root is dealt with and removed, it will continue to produce one kind of bad fruit after another. Too often we spend our lives dealing with the bad fruit in our behavior, but we never dig deep enough to get to the root of the problem. Actually, when we're faced with anger, we must choose our pain. Digging deep to take care of the bad root is painful, but it is the only lasting way to take care of the problem. We can either suffer positively, doing what is right, or we can go with the devil's plan. But remember, the same devil that tempts you to follow your human feelings will later condemn you for doing it. You must decide if you want the pain that will take you into a new realm of glory, or if you're going to keep your same old pain, trying to hide it while it's rotting on the inside of you.

Peter tells us to be well balanced and temperate, withstanding the devil at his onset (see 1 Peter 5:8,9). When you begin to feel anger, it's the perfect time to exercise the fruit of self-control. You may have good reason to be angry, but you must not use it as an excuse to stay that way. Instead of denying or justifying it, ask God to help you deal with it in a positive way. Romans 12:21 gives this good advice: Do not let yourself be overcome by evil, but overcome (master) evil with good. When Satan attacks you, instead of getting mad, go bless someone. Responding in a positive way is the direct opposite of what the enemy had planned, and it defeats his plan to keep you upset. It doesn't come naturally, and it isn't always easy, but when we do what we can do, God will do what we can't do. Do not be quick in spirit to be angry or vexed, for anger and vexation lodge in the bosom of fools (Ecclesiastes 7:9). If we hang onto anger, we're just being foolish. We must turn the anger and the people who caused it over to God and let Him take care of it. ...Vengeance is Mine, I will repay (requite), says the Lord (Romans 12:19). Trust God and He will take care of you and protect you. You can't change your past, but when you give it to God, He will use it to bring you a better future.

IS ANGER SIN?

Is all anger sin? No, but some of it is. Even God Himself has righteous anger against sin, injustice, rebellion, and pettiness. Anger sometimes serves a useful purpose, so it isn't necessarily always a sin. Obviously, we are going to have adverse feelings or God would not have needed to provide the fruit of self-control. Just being tempted to do something is not sin. It's when you don't resist the temptation but go ahead and do it that it becomes sin. God sometimes allows us to feel anger so we can recognize when we are being mistreated. But even when we experience true injustices in our lives, we must not vent our anger in an improper way. We must guard against allowing anger to drag us into sin. Ephesians 4:26,27 tells us, When angry, do not sin; do not ever let your wrath (your exasperation, your fury or indignation) last until the sun goes down. Leave no [such] room or foothold for the devil [give no opportunity to him]. Refuse to give the devil an opportunity to get a foothold in your life through anger.

All anger, regardless of its cause, has the same effect on our lives. It upsets us, causing us to feel pressure. Keeping anger locked inside and pretending it doesn't exist can even be dangerous to our health. It usually doesn't bother the person who makes us angry, it just hurts us. So we must take responsibility for our anger and learn to deal with it. Process it and bring closure to it, and that will relieve the pressure. I have been through some rough times in my life, and for many years those experiences caused me to feel miserable. I was so mad about the abuse in my childhood that it was making be bitter and hateful. I was angry with everybody, but one day God confronted me and said, "Joyce, are you going to let that make you bitter or better?" That got my attention, and I eventually had to find a positive way to process my anger. That was a place of new beginnings for me. When you face your anger and decide to deal with it God's way, you can overcome it. The Holy Ghost gives us the power to be stable and to walk in the fruit of the Spirit. We have the power to forgive those who do injustices in our lives and to love the unlovely.

TAKE STEPS TOWARD FREEDOM

People are born to be free, it is a gift from God. We are not to be free from responsibility, but we are to be free to be led by the Holy Spirit. Any time our freedom is taken away or given away, we experience anger. Are you willing to go through whatever it takes to get free... or do you want to stay in the mess you're in for the rest of your life? If you want to be free, just start doing what God wants you to do one step at a time and you will eventually walk out of your messes. When we are battling anger, we must realize that ...we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places (Ephesians 6:12 KJV). When Satan makes you angry, remember that he's trying to keep you from accomplishing the will of God in your life. In 2 Timothy 4:5, Paul told Timothy to be calm, cool, and collected, and to keep performing the duties of his ministry. And that is good advice for all of us. When we get angry, we should calm down and start doing what God has called us to do. You can be bitter or better, it's up to you! If you're mad about something, instead of letting it ruin your life, turn it into something good. Overcome evil and anger by praying for those who hurt and abuse you. Forgive them and be a blessing to them. It may not be easy at first, but when you make the decision and stick with it, God will take care of the rest.
 
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Calm Down and Cheer Up!

Today it seems as if everyone is under stress. It has become a normal part of everyday life—and as long as we can keep that stress within reasonable limits, there's no problem. But when we allow it to exceed its reasonable limit, trouble begins.

For example, a chair is built to sit on. It is designed and constructed to bear a certain amount of weight. If it is used properly, it should last a very long time. But if it is overloaded beyond its capacity, it will begin to wear out and can eventually break down completely under the strain.

In the same way, you and I were designed and created to bear a certain amount of physical, mental, and emotional strain day after day. However, problems arise when we allow ourselves to come under more weight than we are capable of supporting.

A word we don't hear very much about today is prudence. Prudence means "careful management: ECONOMY." In the Bible, prudence or prudent means "being good stewards or managers of the gifts God has given us to use." Those gifts include time, energy, strength, and health&—even material possessions. They include our bodies as well as our minds and spirits.

Just as each one of us has been given a different set of gifts, each of us has been given different levels of ability to manage those gifts. Some of us are better able to manage our gifts than others.

Each of us needs to know our limits—we need to know how much we are able to handle. We need to be able to recognize when we are reaching "full capacity" or "overload." Instead of pushing ourselves into overload just to please others or to satisfy our own desires to reach our personal goals, we need to listen to God and obey what He is telling us to do. We must follow His wisdom if we really want to enjoy blessed lives.

Did you know that anything could cause stress? And what causes you stress may not bother anyone else. What bothers you today may not give you any problems tomorrow. Stressors can be big things or little things. For example, going to the grocery store and becoming upset by high prices may be a stressor for you. Then the process of paying for your groceries (especially if money is tight) may become a stressor. The checker in your lane runs out of change in the register and has to shut down temporarily. You switch to a new lane and learn you have selected five items that don't have the prices on them. The checker has to call for a price check on each one while you wait, and the line behind you grows. These small, seemingly innocent circumstances pile up until you feel that you may explode from the pressure.

Nobody can remove all the things—big and little—that cause stress in our lives. For that reason, each of us must be prudent to identify and recognize the stressors that affect us most and learn how to respond to them with the right action. We must recognize our limits and learn to say No! to ourselves and other people.

If the stressors are not managed properly, one by one, they can mount up to bring us to the breaking point. Because we may not be able to eliminate or reduce many of the stressors in our lives, we must concentrate on reducing their effects on us. When we can't control all of our circumstances, we must adapt or adjust our attitude so we don't let them pressure us.

It seems that the very atmosphere of the world today is charged with stress and pressure. But the good news is that we don't have to operate in the world's system, reacting like people in the world who have no hope for peace in their lives. The world responds to difficulties by becoming upset and stressed, but our attitude and approach should be entirely different.

We need to have a change of attitude. I have noticed that the right attitude and approach to a situation can completely turn a situation around. Instead of stressing out and getting tense, I calm down by taking a deep breath and trying to get some perspective on the situation. I know that if I approach a circumstance already stressed out, I am setting myself up for misery before I begin. Instead, I just refuse to allow the circumstances to dictate to me how I'm going to feel. I may not be able to control the situation, but I can control how I respond to the situation. I take an offensive approach and decide beforehand what my attitude will be. That way, I'm in control. I have opened the door for God to work supernaturally and help me.

You, too, can choose to calm down and cheer up. Try it—you'll like it!


Here is her link to some of the struggles in life: http://www.joycemeyer.org/cgi-bin/hfth.plx?page=hfth&subpage=hfth&page_ref=Nav&section_id=NA
 
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BlackRain said:
a while ago 2 friends of mine started dating and it exploded and ended really bad. i was caught in the middle and got so irritated at them. ever since then my patience for people has been non existent. have yall ever been so affected by people that it's hardened your heart to the point of changing your outlook on life? people just annoy the crap out of me all the time now. it's like i have no love. i don't know where it went. my tolerance level is invisble. i don't know if it's because of stress and being overwhelmed and not really having much time to myself lately or if it's me being upset at the fact that my standards/morals aren't like my friends and family and its driving me insane. i guess it's a combination of all of them. i don't know. i'm so angry all the time. i get mad real easily, but before my friends dating thing i was fine. it would take a ton for me to be mad at something or someone. i feel like i have no idea who i am. i don't understand what's going on. it's so frustrating!! i've cussed more this month than i have in my entire life. i just want to be alone for a while. would that fix anything, though?

On Justified Anger



On page 90 of the AA's 12 and 12 the writers mention how the addict cannot afford 'justifiable anger' and it should be left to those better qualified to handle it. With reference to this statement -- it is gospel - there is no argument here. We can always settle such disputes by looking deeply into the person, place, thing or emotion in question and ask if it helps or hurts our recovery program? Does having anger and hatred in our hearts ever increase our peace or does it diminish it? Even if we are justified, so called, in having this emotion does it magically become a peace generator in our life with this newfound license to hate? Or is it still a peace buster whether we have an excuse to be angry or not? The path is clear about which direction to take and all that remains is the release of the anger through compassion of others, inventory work and a conscious contact with God / HP instead of the conscious effort at harboring anger and hatred. Developing insight into the other persons suffering as my Buddhist practice recommends also helps me with releasing anger as well as praying for the individual as the 12 step programs tells us to do.

Tired of being angry? Just relinquish control and anger will be diminished. Anger and control go hand in hand. Some people get confused with this anger question and beat themselves for still experiencing this emotion thinking they should be a 'perfectly recovered individual' and above such lowly emotions as getting angry. Such people are ego based on not recovery based. (If you missed my earlier post on "Ego vs Truth Based Recovery" and want a copy write me.) Such ego based practitioners think they can perfect their lives and wipe out natural law with one blow called the 12 steps. Due to the diversity of thought humans are capable of, we have all sorts of thoughts and emotions that pop up in our heads. Without this ability, we could not think as we do. But, just because thoughts or emotions pop up in our heads, the choice is ours alone whether we foster and build on any particular thought or emotion. Do not feel guilty over the thought. Triggers are all around us - it takes US to pull the trigger. We pull the trigger by chewing on such emotions and they acidify us and then comes the inevitable blow up. If you wish to feel guilty over anything, then feel guilty over your nurturing of the anger, then next time you might try to let it die a natural and peaceful death.

Recovery does not eliminate such thoughts, it just helps us decide what we do with them. Anger is also part of our natural make up. Anger is an emotions that can serve us when we need to summon it up in a life or death situation such as self defense or when our species had to hunt big game for a living - hunt with spears, clubs and rocks. Even if we are dealing with life or death self defense and must generate anger, the byproducts is still a disruption of our peace as we recover from the circumstance as a shaking and rattled mess. Anger is also an important emotion for self preservation in less dangerous circumstances than big game hunts. For without feeling anger or discontent we wound not seek out change - as in changing our environment that might be an unhealthy one for us. So, we should never regret feeling anger, but just as anger and excretion are two naturally occurring parts of being a human, we should let them serve us instead of we being enslaved to them.

But, I am here to remind you that besides justified anger, there are HUNDREDS of other things that the addict cannot afford in their life. (If you missed my earlier post "How I apply a life of Voluntary Simplicity to my 12 Step Work" and want a copy write me.) Sure, we can all white knuckle it and just scrape by with recovery, ready to slip off at a moments notice if we want to put our excesses of desires before the program. But, learning 'what fits and what does not fit' comfortably in our life is the ongoing battle we all have to undertake if we ever want peace. In short, we have to ask if our recovery program can 'afford' the many things we come into daily contact with and the measure of our success will be determined by how well we live within our comfortable means. The 12 and 12 also raises another important question in this paragraph-that of justification or excuses when it discusses anger. The balance of this post will discuss both of these topics of affordability and justification or excuses as they relate to all areas recovery and not just anger.

Before I could find lasting and peaceful recovery I had to learn to refuse many areas of my old life that did not serve me any longer. This is how I coined the phrase, "You are not recovering until your start refusing...refusing the old sick ways that got you here." The 3 paths that addiction can take are these: the addiction can be increased, it can be decreased or can be frozen. These 3 paths shows us which direction we are headed in with our recovery at any given moment. Clarity about affordability comes from a continual orientation of putting our programs wants first and our personal wants or desires second and by asking the question of how any person, place, thing or activity will affect my recovery program? Once the addict has this affordability mindset in place they can direct their thoughts towards the cultivation of recovery, so that whatever action they are engaged in - it is always evaluated from this perspective and they can find great success from applying this single minded dedication to change. Suddenly they find their recovery practice and life can become as one and asking such questions becomes second nature for them.

But again, this is the textbook or idealistic way of looking at this affordability question, we need practical application in the real world. Many of us have families and jobs and to be a total renunciate of all things disruptive to our peace and our recovery program is not always possible or desirable when looking at the big picture. I often hear excuses from other addicts saying they can't stop this or that because of their family, jobs or other obligations, so we need to balance these two extremes of being a total renunciate with the other extreme of being paralyzed and not changing a thing because of excuses and justification. We have to work towards a balance if we want peace and just like exercise, we always seem to find reasons for not doing what we know is right.

The way I work it is to be aware of what is disruptive to my peace and to change it if possible as a first choice or work on accepting it as the serenity prayer says as a second choice. I try to stay away from justification or looking for excuses to continue on the wrong path. I either change things or work on accepting them. If we base our decisions of proven principles of recovery it helps takes us out of the decision making process and rests our recovery on solid foundation instead of excuses. I don't beat myself for not being able to perform well in every given circumstance under the sun. I know that I do not mesh well with everything and everybody in life and I have certain limits and abilities. To do otherwise would say that we have the right to be perfect and violate our make up and that we have no limits or boundaries to govern us and are godlike. The 12 step programs reminds us to work within our limits by 'staying right size' on pages 122-125, so it tells me right there I am not immune to all things destructive just because I work the 12 steps.

In SCA they have a tool called abstention. They abstain the best way they can from people places or things they have found to be detrimental to their recovery program efforts from past experience with them. My recovery success is based a lot on abstaining from people, places and things that do not mesh well with me and if I cannot avoid them, then I work to make the unavoidable fit better by changing things on my end. Yes, we cannot change others, but we do usually have control of ourselves and how we participate in dealing with others. Even though we cannot completely change or wipe our many problem areas in our life we can usually change 'some' aspects of most problems to make them more bearable. If no change can come about from my footwork, then acceptance is the answer to finding peace. So, I am always looking for any small changes to make in the right direction and this recovery orientation towards the direction of change helps by giving hope of possible larger future change as well. After I have exhausted any change that I can do, acceptance will take care of the loose ends I am powerless over.


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"Some people use the cold shoulder mask. When someone makes them angry, they may say they have forgiven them but they become cold and show no warmth or emotion in dealing with that individual. These people live a lonely existence, because they are so afraid of being hurt that they avoid any close and meaningful relationship. This is a classic example of "choosing your pain." This kind of person chooses the pain of living an isolated, lonely life instead of working through the problem and determining to develop good friendships."

By joyce meyer...

I think I might suffer from this type of anger possibly to most people... but I really think I have forgiven them... I dont think I remember much of what they done to me either... do you think this type of anger is the root of social anxiety?

BTW I dont think I agree with all of joyce meyers teachings and beliefs.. some of them might be very heretic.. But I think this could help me still.
I watched quite a bit of her on tv and I liked her preaching but there are reasons why I now want to stay away from watching her on tv..
Am I meant to tell you people what I think is wrong with some of her teachings?


 
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BlackRain said:
a while ago 2 friends of mine started dating and it exploded and ended really bad. i was caught in the middle and got so irritated at them. ever since then my patience for people has been non existent. have yall ever been so affected by people that it's hardened your heart to the point of changing your outlook on life? people just annoy the crap out of me all the time now. it's like i have no love. i don't know where it went. my tolerance level is invisble. i don't know if it's because of stress and being overwhelmed and not really having much time to myself lately or if it's me being upset at the fact that my standards/morals aren't like my friends and family and its driving me insane. i guess it's a combination of all of them. i don't know. i'm so angry all the time. i get mad real easily, but before my friends dating thing i was fine. it would take a ton for me to be mad at something or someone. i feel like i have no idea who i am. i don't understand what's going on. it's so frustrating!! i've cussed more this month than i have in my entire life. i just want to be alone for a while. would that fix anything, though?

Angry.....:mad: ? You could say that I have had quite a battle with that one! My little girl was molested/raped in my OWN home by my son's 'best friend' for several months......talk about having a ZERO tolerance level. And on top of that I'm going through menopause, too. Anyway, yes every ounce of my compassion for my fellow man has pretty much stopped.....something that I do hope will change, and I feel it will given enough prayer and time. We're still waiting for the whole 'legal' battle to be finished.

Seven months after the arrest of this moron.....my son gets a wild hair....I know we have raised him the best way we knew how....gets some 25 year old woman pregnant (he's only 18).....moves out of the house the day after Thanksgiving!!! Sometimes I think the battles we face in life are not worth it. But then I try to pray, take a deep breath, and give God the reins.....let Him be the one to continue the battle. It is a very difficult thing to do....but a decision that you will never regret, my friend. God CAN do absolutely anything......all we must do is ask for His help. You will be in my prayers, dear. :hug: :prayer:
 
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"Some people use the cold shoulder mask. When someone makes them angry, they may say they have forgiven them but they become cold and show no warmth or emotion in dealing with that individual. These people live a lonely existence, because they are so afraid of being hurt that they avoid any close and meaningful relationship. This is a classic example of "choosing your pain." This kind of person chooses the pain of living an isolated, lonely life instead of working through the problem and determining to develop good friendships."

By joyce meyer...

I think I might suffer from this type of anger possibly to most people... but I really think I have forgiven them... I dont think I remember much of what they done to me either... do you think this type of anger is the root of social anxiety?

BTW I dont think I agree with all of joyce meyers teachings and beliefs.. some of them might be very heretic.. But I think this could help me still.
I watched quite a bit of her on tv and I liked her preaching but there are reasons why I now want to stay away from watching her on tv..
Am I meant to tell you people what I think is wrong with some of her teachings?





Many people ruin their lives and their health by eating the poison of bitterness, resentment, and unforgiveness. Matthew 18:23-35 tells us that, if we do not forgive people, we get turned over to the torturers. If you have a problem in this area or have ever had one, I am sure you bear witness with what I am saying. It is torture to have hateful thoughts rolling around inside of you toward another person.

Who Are You Helping When You Forgive?

Who are you helping the most when you forgive the person who hurt you? Actually, you are helping yourself more than the other person. I always looked at forgiving people who had hurt me as being a really hard thing to do. I thought it seemed so unfair for them to receive forgiveness when I had gotten hurt. I got pain, and they got free without having to pay for the pain they caused me. Now I realized that I am helping myself when I choose to forgive. I am helping the other person also by releasing them, so God can do what only He can do. If I am in the way, trying to get revenge or taking care of the situation myself instead of trusting and obeying God, He has no obligation to deal with that person. However, God will deal with the people who hurt us if we will put them in His hands through forgiveness. It is our seed of obedience to His Word; and once we have sown our seed, He will bring a harvest of blessing to us one way or another.

I am helping myself, because when I forgive I release God to work. I am happy when I am not full of the poison of unforgiveness. I feel better physically. Serious diseases can come as a result of the stress and pressure that bitterness, resentment, and unforgiveness put on a person. Mark 11:22-26 clearly teaches us that unforgiveness hinders our faith from working. The Father cannot forgive our sins if we do not forgive other people (we reap what we sow). Sow mercy, and you will reap mercy; sow judgement, and you will reap judgement. Do yourself a favor and forgive.

There are still more benefits of forgiveness. When you are willing to forgive, your fellowship with God has a free flow. Unforgiveness blocks it. Paul said that we are to forgive in order to keep Satan from getting an advantage over us (11 Corinthians 2: 10-11). Ephesians 4:26-27 says that we are not to let the sun go down on our anger. Do not give the devil any such foothold or opportunity. Remember that the devil must have a foothold before he can get a stronghold. Be quick to forgive. Do not help the devil torture you. I also think it is hard to hate one person and love another. When we are full of wrong things, it is hard to treat anybody right. Even people you want to love may be suffering from your bitterness, resentment and unforgiveness.

How To Forgive

Like everything else, there are practical steps to forgiving people that must be taken if we are going to be successful at it. I asked the Lord why so many people seem to want to forgive and yet are not successful doing it. He said, "because they are not obeying what I tell them to do in the Word." As I searched the Word, I found the following instructions:

1. Decide. You will never forgive if you wait to feel like it. Choose to obey God and steadfastly resist the devil in his attempts to poison you again with bitter thoughts. Make a quality decision, and God will heal your wounded emotions in due time.

2. Depend. You cannot forgive without the power of the Holy Spirit. It is too hard to do on your own. If you are truly willing, God will enable you; but you are going to need to humble yourself and cry out to Him for help. In John 20:22-23, Jesus breathed on the disciples and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. " His next instruction was about forgiving people. We certainly can use this as an example and ask Him to breathe on us that we might be able to forgive those who hurt us.

3. Obey. There are several things we are told do in the Word concerning forgiving our enemies.

a. Pray for your enemies and those who abuse and misuse you. Pray for their happiness and welfare (Luke 6:27-28 Amplified). As you pray, God may be able to give them revelation that will bring them out of deception. They may not even be aware they hurt you, or maybe they are aware but are so self-centered that they do not care. Either way, they need revelation.

b. Bless and do not curse them (Romans 12:14). In the Greek, to bless means "to speak well of" and to curse means "to speak evil of." You cannot forgive and gossip or be a talebearer. You must stop repeating the offense. You cannot get over it and also continue to talk about it. Proverbs 17:9 says that he who seeks to cover an offense seeks love.

Who Should Forgive?

Forgive the person from long ago who hurt you very badly and also the person whom you did not know in the grocery store, for stepping on your toe. Take those two extremes and forgive them in addition to everyone in between. Forgive quickly. The quicker you do it, the easier it is. Forgive freely. Matthew 10:8 says freely you have received, freely give. Forgiveness means to excuse a fault, absolve from payment, pardon, send away, cancel, and bestow favor unconditionally.

When you forgive, you must cancel the debt. Do not spend your life paying and collecting debts. Hebrews 10:30 says that vengeance belongs to the Lord; He will repay and settle the cases of His people. Let God pay you for past injustices; do not try to collect from the people who hurt you, because the people who hurt you cannot pay you. Matthew 18:25 says ..."he could not pay".

Also forgive yourself for past sins and for hurts you have caused others. You cannot pay people back, so ask God to.

Forgive God if you are angry at Him because your life did not turn out the way you thought it should. God is always just. There may be things you do not understand; but God loves you, and people make a serious mistake if they will not receive help from the only One who can truly help.

You may even need to forgive an object—the post office, bank, a certain store you feel cheated you, a car that always gave you trouble, etc. Get rid of all poison that comes from bitterness, resentment, and unforgiveness; and remember Proverbs 4:23 (Amplified), "Keep and guard your heart with all vigilance...for out of it flow the springs of life." Unforgiveness is spiritual filthiness; get washed in the water of the Word and stay clean. God bless you!
 
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I'm angry at someone right now. When I think about what happened, I cannot think straight. This happens a few times a day everyday for the past two months. Writing about it here is great therapy. Talking about it with someone is great therapy. In both cases, hopefully your audience is patient & understanding (even if they may not agree with you entirely). I know eventually my anger will pass. I think yours will too.
 
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In II Cor. 5:14 we see that it is, "The love of Christ that constrains us", and helps the Christian to handle his temper. It is normal to have a temper which spurs one on constructively, but temper uncontrolled is anger, which is destructive, and may produce hatred as well.

Anger against another is sin, and in the end the angry person really hurts himself, for anger burns within and consumes the individual, so that one is unable to think or act properly. God's remedy for this is found in I John 1:9. "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness". Then in I John 4:16-21 we see that the love of God within us helps us control our temper, and allows us to project ourselves in love to others, rather than in anger. The result is a lessening of tension, stress, and strife, with God's replacement of love toward each other.
 
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mikeforjesus said:
Jesus said something like "Father forgive them for they know not what they do" yet I dont think they all asked his forgiveness... what do you think?

I think we should be ready to forgive them before they say sorry..


I think we need to ask, Who was Jesus praying for? Were those He prayed for completely absolved of killing the Son of God so that they didn't even know they had the mercy and grace of Christ?

Anyway, if you hold to what you wrote, then you've negated the need to repent, to God or to anyone. If this is your witness, then people might go to hell because of misunderstanding. Check out Luke 17:3 . . . Jesus said those words too. Check out Jesus' parable about the wicked servant who was rebuked by the king, then the servant repented, then the king forgave him. Then the wicked servant rebuked another servant, the second servant repented, and the wicked servant wouldn't hear anything about it. (excellent example of how to be unforgiving.) The king found out and unloaded on the wicked servant. Repentance first, then forgiveness. Every time, all the time.
 
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suzybeezy said:
In II Cor. 5:14 we see that it is, "The love of Christ that constrains us", and helps the Christian to handle his temper. It is normal to have a temper which spurs one on constructively, but temper uncontrolled is anger, which is destructive, and may produce hatred as well.

Anger against another is sin, and in the end the angry person really hurts himself, for anger burns within and consumes the individual, so that one is unable to think or act properly. God's remedy for this is found in I John 1:9. "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness". Then in I John 4:16-21 we see that the love of God within us helps us control our temper, and allows us to project ourselves in love to others, rather than in anger. The result is a lessening of tension, stress, and strife, with God's replacement of love toward each other.


There's nothing wrong with anger. I'm sure God wasn't skipping all the way to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. If the anger is a just anger, it's perfectly fine.

In Revelations 6, there are those slain for Christ under the alter. What are they saying? They're crying out for vengeance. Uh, usually, that requires a tad bit of anger. And how does God deal with them? Does he rebuke them? Nuh-uh. He calms them, with new robes and a promise of justice soon.

This is the wrong thread for this. Sorry.
 
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mikeforjesus said:
but you should be ready to forgive before they ask I think.. and if you see your enemy hungry feed him.. should you meet your enemy with a smile?


Ugh, the typical Christian cliche "forgive everyone!"

No. A thousand times, no. Not before they ask/repent! One should not forgive, say, a rapist before the rapist repents. Do you understand that when you forgive you wipe their slate clean?? An unrepentent rapist does not deserve a clean slate when he is not repentent and is probably eyeballing his next victim.

Yes, yes, we're told to love our enemy (tho love does not automatically equate to forgiveness), do good to them. In showing kindness we heap coals of fire upon them, right. Yet . . . We are not told to forgive out of hand. Even God Himself doesn't do this. There must be repentence, or you're saying that God's got some splainin' to do. (Hello Sodom, hello Gomorrah, hello Ninevah, hello Jerusalem)

I thought I'd mentioned Luke 17:3 and the parable of the wicked servent in Matthew 18:22-35. Take another look at them, please. Take a closer look at that parable. That parable begins with "Therefore, the kingdom of heaven is like . . . " Get that? In that parable, which He says is like the kingdom of heaven, He's saying that the king will forgive after repentence and expects us to do the same. You don't think so, tho, right? That Jesus . . . such a kidder.

So much for using good judgment. But you'll probably tell me Christians aren't supposed to judge either. Avoid 1 Cor 6:3 at all costs then. And tear out the whole book of Judges while you're at it.

Ask yourself again, who was Jesus asking to have forgiven? Then ask, why didn't He forgive them Himself? Then ask, why did Jesus say what He said in Luke 17:3. These are valid questions and worthy of your time.

Peace.
 
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