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Anglicans Only: African Anglicanism?

Discussion in 'Congregation-specific Ethics' started by kiwimac, Mar 14, 2006.

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  1. kiwimac

    kiwimac Bishop of the See of Aotearoa ROCCNZ;Theologian Supporter

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    From a Stephen Bates column in Church of England Newspaper, as reprinted in ThinkingAnglicans website:

    Two examples: last week Archbishop Akinola waded into the inter-religious violence in Nigeria, threatening Muslims that they did not have a monopoly of violence. Shortly afterwards Christian mobs in Onitsha started hacking people to death with machetes.
    Our second example, the Most Rev. Bernard Malango recently absolved without trial, Bishop Nolbert Kunonga of Harare. The charges include incitement to murder, intimidation....
    If Rowan Williams bans Gene Robinson but extends invitations to men such as Akinola, Malango and Kunonga, Anglicanism will be spiritually dead.

    Source: http://www.thinkinganglicans.org.uk/archives/001585.html



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  2. gtsecc

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    More proof the Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox are who they say they are. Are going to fix this ship, or abandon it?
     
  3. karen freeinchristman

    karen freeinchristman More of You and less of me, Lord! Supporter

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    God is in control; he's at the wheel. If this ship is broke, he'll fix it. I'm not for abandonment.
     
  4. Simon_Templar

    Simon_Templar Not all who wander are lost

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    ++ Gene Robinson doesn't support violence against people only to those who don't consider the unborn to be people.

    Also, being a student of history, I'm aware that the media as often as not, especially in the case of African politics, has routinely construed the one side of an issue to be ruthless butchers and the other side to be "the good guys" when in actual fact the situation was totaly reversed.

    So, suffice it to say I'm somewhat hesitant to take Stephen Bates' word for it.
     
  5. Fish and Bread

    Fish and Bread Dona nobis pacem

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    Those churches have never had an troubles? There was a Pope who held orgies with prostitutes in St. Peter's Basilica. There were rumors of an Eastern Orthodox bishop who supported Slobadon Milosevich's regime in Serbia openly. I could cite many more examples of poor conduct by bishops in those churches. Now, that's not to say that their claims to be the one true church are, but rather simply that conduct of their bishops versus Anglican bishops does not prove the case. One would have to look at other factors. The leaders of almost all churches and denominations have at one time or another acted in reprehensible ways, because they're human beings, and human beings sin.
     
  6. Aymn27

    Aymn27 Radical Reformationist

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    Oh boy..here we ago again..attack the black hetero bishops!
     
  7. kiwimac

    kiwimac Bishop of the See of Aotearoa ROCCNZ;Theologian Supporter

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    Aymn27,

    Perhaps you'd like to address the issues raised? Can you prove falsity? Otherwise your comment is as useful as teats on a bull.
     
  8. PaladinValer

    PaladinValer Traditional Orthodox Anglican

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    Like how much the ECUSA and ACoC is attacked?
     
  9. Mysterium_Fidei

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    Liberal Anglican propoganda -- not saying conservatives don't have theirs, or that this isn't factual, but the article has a very "beat-back-the-self-righteous-conservatives" attitude.
     
  10. kiwimac

    kiwimac Bishop of the See of Aotearoa ROCCNZ;Theologian Supporter

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    As evidence of ++Akinola's comments re violence in Nigeria.

    Source" http://titusonenine.classicalanglican.net/?p=11515

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  11. kiwimac

    kiwimac Bishop of the See of Aotearoa ROCCNZ;Theologian Supporter

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    As evidence of ++Akinola's comments re violence in Nigeria.

    Source" http://titusonenine.classicalanglican.net/?p=11515

    You might also be interested in the following

    Source: http://makeashorterlink.com/?J4E552CCC
     
  12. kiwimac

    kiwimac Bishop of the See of Aotearoa ROCCNZ;Theologian Supporter

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  13. Inside Edge

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    I nominate this statement as one of the most truly pathetic statements I have ever read on these forums.
     
  14. Fish and Bread

    Fish and Bread Dona nobis pacem

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    So, I was wondering, when do we get threads about Canadian Catholicism and Lithuania Lutheranism? ;)
     
  15. higgs2

    higgs2 not a nutter

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    Belgian Baptists, too.
     
  16. Aymn27

    Aymn27 Radical Reformationist

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    hehe..indeed..much like that of Ankinola contributing to the deaths of homosexual Nigerians, and now this glorious thread...:sigh: ...shock value does have merit..
     
  17. Timothy

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    What a beautiful example of media spin. It's almost, but maybe not quite as good as some of the "conservative" attacks on Gene Robinson, since this one does have at least some factual basis. Remember, folks, there are always TWO sides to any story. The media wants good stories which sell newspapers. Which on BOTH sides is not necessarily the truth. Maybe having spent my life with my father (ex-BBC radio) has turned me cynical, I dunno...

    Timothy
     
  18. Timothy

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    What a beautiful example of media spin. It's almost, but maybe not quite as good as some of the "conservative" attacks on Gene Robinson, since this one does have at least some factual basis. Remember, folks, there are always TWO sides to any story. The media wants good stories which sell newspapers. Which on BOTH sides is not necessarily the truth. Maybe having spent my life with my father (ex-BBC radio) has turned me cynical, I dunno...

    Timothy
     
  19. Wiffey

    Wiffey He is my refuge and my fortress...

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    Whether one agrees or disagrees with some of the social positions coming from the Bishops in question, we cannot turn a blind eye to the issues of corruption, intimidation, and incitement to violence. To sweep such things under the rug in the name of supporting an agenda is monstrous.

    To point out abuses is not tantamount to a lack of support for the developing world. Corruption and cronyism may be endemic, but these problems help keep the majority of the population in poverty and vulnerable to violence.
     
  20. gtsecc

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    Absolutely!
     
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