Anger

[Living4Him03]

Can you really be angry without sinning? Aren't there wrong things to be angry about? For example, what if my brother borrowed money and never paid me back and I needed to pay a bill, well then I think anger might be justified. But, what if he simply did something that is just really annoying, but not something he realizes is annoying. Then, do I have a right to be angry? So, is anger ever justified and if so in what situations and why? Any Scripture on this?

 

[Reformationist]

Can you really be angry without sinning?

Absolutely. A righteous anger is one that directs your attention toward the sin rather than the sinner. A righteous anger is one that motivates you to cast away sin from your presence. This would mean responding in godliness to trials because of your hatred and anger towards anything that offends God.

For example, what if my brother borrowed money and never paid me back and I needed to pay a bill, well then I think anger might be justified.

Well, you'd be wrong. Your brother would be liable to pay you that money but your getting angry at him is not the godly response to another's sin. The Word commands us to return evil with good.

But, what if he simply did something that is just really annoying, but not something he realizes is annoying. Then, do I have a right to be angry? So, is anger ever justified and if so in what situations and why? Any Scripture on this?

Anger against another person is not justifiable, though you'd never know that by the way every single one of us seeks to justify our anger. It is justifiable to seek recompense but seeking it out of anger makes our just claim unjust.

God bless

 

[Flynmonkie]

Absolutely. A righteous anger is one that directs your attention toward the sin rather than the sinner. A righteous anger is one that motivates you to cast away sin from your presence. This would mean responding in godliness to trials because of your hatred and anger towards anything that offends God.

HORRAAYY! This is so true! It drives me batty when people try to tell me Jesus never got angry and that is not what Jesus would do

You know I have to admit, I find myself judging people by how they repay money. This is spoken of in the bible. God expects us to do so, and to keep our vows. If someone does not do this I automaticlly, never trust them again. (we are also not talking about a immature person learning life lessons - this is directed at those whom should know better) Not hate them or not forgive them, but to me it is a sign of character. Don't get me wrong people get into situations that they cannot pay when they promised. We should be understanding to these situations. But they better be explaining that not just act like the situation never exists. Know what I mean?

Here is a snip of one of my commentaries speaking of this:

Although Christ did not condemn investments to earn money (Matt. 25:27; Luke 19:23), He emphasized the need for all people to show love and grace toward their fellow human beings (Matt. 5:25–26; Luke 12:58–59). He taught us to pray, “Forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors” (Matt. 6:12). God has offered His grace in the form of His Son to pay the price for our debts (Heb. 7:22). Out of gratitude, we should show that love to others (Luke 7:36–50).​

On Not repaying debt:​

Psalm 37:21-27 KJV​

21The wicked borroweth, and payeth not again: but the righteous sheweth mercy, and giveth. 22 For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth; and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off. 23 The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way.  24 Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand. 25 I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread. 26 He is everfmerciful, and lendeth; and his seed is blessed.  27 Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore.​

ordered: or, established

ever: Heb. all the day

Matthew 5:42
42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

 

[Living4Him03]

actually, my bro would probably be the one loaning ME money...hehe...that was just an illustration, but thank you for your input.

 

[Knight]

HORRAAYY! This is so true! It drives me batty when people try to tell me Jesus never got angry and that is not what Jesus would do

Remember this is the man who made a lash and physically threw the moneychangers out of the temple. There is a prescident for righteous anger.

The trouble with us is that our anger is tainted by our sinful nature. We get angry when we have been slighted or offended. When our pride is damaged or our feelings are hurt.

This kind of selfish anger is sinful. God's anger is not. The OT recordes many instances of God's anger. (ref: Judges) This was always in response to sin. Therefore we can conclude that anger that is directed against sin is righteous. We must be careful to discern the source of our anger. Oftentimes our anger is actually a result of selfish reasons. We are allowed to be angry over sin but we are commanded to forgive the sinner.

Jesus taught that we are to forgive those who wrong us. He lived this out when He prayed for the forgiveness of those who were crucifying Him.

 

[Flynmonkie]

Remember this is the man who made a lash and physically threw the moneychangers out of the temple. There is a prescident for righteous anger.

The trouble with us is that our anger is tainted by our sinful nature. We get angry when we have been slighted or offended. When our pride is damaged or our feelings are hurt.

This kind of selfish anger is sinful. God's anger is not. The OT recordes many instances of God's anger. (ref: Judges) This was always in response to sin. Therefore we can conclude that anger that is directed against sin is righteous. We must be careful to discern the source of our anger. Oftentimes our anger is actually a result of selfish reasons. We are allowed to be angry over sin but we are commanded to forgive the sinner.

Jesus taught that we are to forgive those who wrong us. He lived this out when He prayed for the forgiveness of those who were crucifying Him.

Yes, this is so true! Some feel that any type of anger including what I define and you define as righteous is wrong too. So it is nice to see others that understand this difference! Great post!

 

[racer]

Well,

I've been motivated by unrighteous anger of late almost to the point of obsession. This is a lot of the reason (not the only reason) I have avoided the boards lately. I have not felt worthy to participate. I won't go into detail, because I'm ashamed of myself, even though I'm not ready to let go of this anger.

Please know that it has nothing to do with anyone on this MB, it's something that has been going in my personal life for the last year. I have only made it worse. I have let spite and vengence influence me something terrible.

Now, what I'm ready to do is humble myself and ask you guys to pray that I can turn loose of this anger.

Thank you guys so much!!

Lisa

 

[Flynmonkie]

Well,

I've been motivated by unrighteous anger of late almost to the point of obsession. This is a lot of the reason (not the only reason) I have avoided the boards lately. I have not felt worthy to participate. I won't go into detail, because I'm ashamed of myself, even though I'm not ready to let go of this anger.

Please know that it has nothing to do with anyone on this MB, it's something that has been going in my personal life for the last year. I have only made it worse. I have let spite and vengence influence me something terrible.

Now, what I'm ready to do is humble myself and ask you guys to pray that I can turn loose of this anger.

Thank you guys so much!!

Lisa

You are not alone there either! It is good to step back away for awhile and get our bearings! I have been there many many times!! And more than likely it will happen again (I hope not ) But the Holy Spirit can and does do wonderful things! I am actually alot better at it than before! Just through prayer. The biggest step is recognizing what it is, then keeping an eye out for it. Now it is like I have a whole new perspective. But there are those days!

I know where you are coming from!

 

[Reformationist]

Remember this is the man who made a lash and physically threw the moneychangers out of the temple. There is a prescident for righteous anger.

The trouble with us is that our anger is tainted by our sinful nature. We get angry when we have been slighted or offended. When our pride is damaged or our feelings are hurt.

This kind of selfish anger is sinful. God's anger is not. The OT recordes many instances of God's anger. (ref: Judges) This was always in response to sin. Therefore we can conclude that anger that is directed against sin is righteous. We must be careful to discern the source of our anger. Oftentimes our anger is actually a result of selfish reasons. We are allowed to be angry over sin but we are commanded to forgive the sinner.

Jesus taught that we are to forgive those who wrong us. He lived this out when He prayed for the forgiveness of those who were crucifying Him.

Wonderful post. Very nicely said.

God bless

 

[Reformationist]

Now, what I'm ready to do is humble myself and ask you guys to pray that I can turn loose of this anger.

Thank you guys so much!!

Lisa

Praying for you Lisa!

God bless

 

[racer]

Thanks for the prayers and understanding!!