"...and praise is comely."

[nadroj1985]

On the back of Smith's album The Big Picture, is Michael W. Smith — BACKWARDS! A common satanic practice, taught by satanist Aliester Crowley (Crowley is very popular in the rock music world). Crowley gives instructions to the satanist:



". . .train himself to think BACKWARDS by external means, as set forth here following.
(a) Let him learn to write BACKWARDS. . .
(b) Let him learn to walk BACKWARDS. . .
(c) Let him. . . listen to phonograph records REVERSED
(d) Let him practise speaking BACKWARDS. . .
(e) Let him learn to read BACKWARDS. . ."
(Aleister Crowley, Magick In Theory And Practice)
Having counseled teenagers in satanism, I know one of the first signs of satanic influence is writing backwards!

But something even more frightening appears on the album . . . The M in Michael and the T in Smith is part of the Runic (runic means secret) alphabet used in witchcraft and satanism! Only someone involved in the occult would know such an alphabet exists! In the book, Web of Darkness, former satanist Sean Sellers says, "Runes are the oldest form of occult knowledge and magic . . . their use sets a person against God." (Sean Sellers, Web of Darkness, p. 72)

These are funny. This site you are using is a joke, right?

 

[Street-Preacher]

1TIM3:2
"A BISHOP THEN MUST BE BLAMELESS,..."
1TI3:6
"NOT A NOVICE, LEST BEING LIFTED UP WITH PRIDE HE FALL INTO THE CONDEMNATION OF THE DEVIL."
1TIM3:10
"AND LET THESE ALSO FIRST BE PROVED; THEN LET THEM USE THE OFFICE OF A DEACON, BEING FOUND BLAMELESS."
2TIM2:15
"STUDY TO SHOW THYSELF APPROVED UNTO GOD, A WORKMAN THAT NEEDETH NOT TO BE ASHAMED, RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH."

 

[nadroj1985]

1TIM3:2
"A BISHOP THEN MUST BE BLAMELESS,..."
1TI3:6
"NOT A NOVICE, LEST BEING LIFTED UP WITH PRIDE HE FALL INTO THE CONDEMNATION OF THE DEVIL."
1TIM3:10
"AND LET THESE ALSO FIRST BE PROVED; THEN LET THEM USE THE OFFICE OF A DEACON, BEING FOUND BLAMELESS."
2TIM2:15
"STUDY TO SHOW THYSELF APPROVED UNTO GOD, A WORKMAN THAT NEEDETH NOT TO BE ASHAMED, RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH."

Yup, still has nothing to do with the topic...........

 

[nadroj1985]

And please, turn off the Caps Lock. It's kinda unnerving

 

[Street-Preacher]

What Bible version are you using?

 

[nadroj1985]

What Bible version are you using?

NIV, but what does that matter? The translation has nothing to do with it. The verses say nothing whatsoever about rock music being evil. They don't even mention music!!

 

[Street-Preacher]

do you know who the morning star is?

 

[nadroj1985]

do you know who the morning star is?

I assume you mean Jesus. Yes of course I know who he is. Once again, what in the world does this have to do with music?

 

[Street-Preacher]

NOTHING TO DO WITH MUSIC ANYMORE. Just read this please...
(1) Just about everybody knows the word "Lucifer" as another name for Satan. The word "Lucifer" is found one time in the King James Bible.

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

(2) But what about the NIV? The word "Lucifer" is clean, bald-headed gone and now this creature is identified as the "morning star". Lucifer is the "morning star" in the NIV.

How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!

(3) So we know that in the NIV the "morning star" is a negative, evil figure. Right? He was fallen from heaven. He was cast down to the earth. Can we find the "morning star" anywhere else in the NIV? Yes! The following passages in the NIV show the "morning star" as Jesus Christ! But the NIV just called the fallen creature of Isaiah 14:12 "morning star". Lucifer AND Jesus are ONE in the NIV! Lord have mercy, Jesus! Help me, Lord.

 

[Street-Preacher]

NIV: Revelation 22:16,
"I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you [1] this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

NIV: 2 Peter 1:19,
And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.

NIV: Revelation 2:28--
I will also give him the morning star.

 

[nadroj1985]

OK well Street Preacher, I don't think we can continue this conversation much more. You're not keeping things on topic, and are going off on rants that I would refute, but you've made so many I don't have the time. You seem very condescending. The NIV is evil? Come on. I'm not sure about the "morning star" translations, but I read the NIV growing up and didn't get the idea that Jesus and Satan were equated.

 

[Street-Preacher]

what does mat 18:11 say?
are you sure 1 john 5:7 is complete?
www.jesus-is-lord.com
i dont care about the music, all i care about is you doing the will of God.

 

[nadroj1985]

what does mat 18:11 say?
are you sure 1 john 5:7 is complete?
www.jesus-is-lord.com
i dont care about the music, all i care about is you doing the will of God.

I care about that also. And that is why I stay far away from sites like the one you have given a link for. It's a sad state of affairs when someone can put together a site like that and put Jesus' name on it.

 

[Street-Preacher]

You know what is sad?
That you dont accept that preaching of the WORD OF GOD is more than just encouragement, the Bible says in John 16:8-9
"and when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgement:"

I would not be surprised that you also believe that you can loose your salvation...

 

[nadroj1985]

You know what is sad?
That you dont accept that preaching of the WORD OF GOD is more than just encouragement, the Bible says in John 16:8-9
"and when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgement:"

Well, you don't accept the preaching of the WORD OF GOD in Luke 11:37-42. See? It goes both ways, my man.

I would not be surprised that you also believe that you can loose your salvation...

Once again, going off topic. This is crazy.

 

[EdmundBlackadderTheThird]

NOTHING TO DO WITH MUSIC ANYMORE. Just read this please...
(1) Just about everybody knows the word "Lucifer" as another name for Satan. The word "Lucifer" is found one time in the King James Bible.

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

(2) But what about the NIV? The word "Lucifer" is clean, bald-headed gone and now this creature is identified as the "morning star". Lucifer is the "morning star" in the NIV.

How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!

(3) So we know that in the NIV the "morning star" is a negative, evil figure. Right? He was fallen from heaven. He was cast down to the earth. Can we find the "morning star" anywhere else in the NIV? Yes! The following passages in the NIV show the "morning star" as Jesus Christ! But the NIV just called the fallen creature of Isaiah 14:12 "morning star". Lucifer AND Jesus are ONE in the NIV! Lord have mercy, Jesus! Help me, Lord.

Lucifer means morning star dude. It in fact is a reference to the planet Venus when seen as the morning star. You are using mis-information to attack a perfectly good translation of the Bible.

 

[Philip Babineaux]

hey street... i just read your reply to my comment on worship.... and i sense a very strong spirit of jedgement in your words... as do others on this posting area....

that is fine by me... you can choose to yell and scream repentance at everyone who you want to... including me... the truth is, you do not know me, and it is extrememly foolish for you to tell me that GOd is not moving in my life because of sin and satisfaction of the flesh... God is moving through me... but more importantly God is moving IN me... He is my Father, and he is teaching me what it means to be a Son... Repentance is core to my life, yet you imply with ignorant attacks against what you "believe" are my convictions...

I have seen it soo many times before... ANGRY prophets yelling at all who will hear, but I ask you this... where is the fruit in your life? Is it endless postings of arguin between yourself and other Christians (of course you try your hardest to convince them that they are not very good ones at that)... do you think it pleases the Father for his children to tear each other apart and have the audacity to take His word as a sword to one another, bringing convictions that are experienced personally upon others as POLICY?

As you are well versed in scripture, perhaps you remember the story of the woman at the well? And Jesus' reaction to her... he loved her FIRST, and accepted her... even defended her against the attacks of men (religious ones at that)... and then he told her to walk away from her sin... which she recieved because of His great mercy...

It seems as though mercy has not found its way in to your ministry... which is truly sad, because it is the ONLY thing that will save the lost... not rules, not legalism, not policy, not convictions.... but MERCY...

It is no mystery to me that MAN MANY people in music fall to pride and self-worship... it isn't contained by the rock industry... there are worship leaders all across our country who serve themselves and live in great sin before the Lord... if you want to make a difference, why not try mentoring a young musician, speaking life in to people... edifying others... speaking encouragement... loving one another...

that road leads to peace and fulfillment... not self-righteousness...

what a paradox... "in Christian love"... perhaps you can define the meaning of that statement after you blast a fellow believer blindly without Christ-like motives OR means... perhaps if you would atleast walk in the prophetic maybe God could have directed you to one of the many struggles in my life to point out... but alas He has not shown you anything, so you strike out and hope to hit... perhaps the reason you cannot see is because truth can not be trusted to your judging words...

that is all... thank you for once more showing me the folly of the "angry prophet" syndrome... where good people become bent on saving the world through judgement and "purity" by showing everyone their weakness and attacking every flaw... while somehow managing to miss the greatest commandment Jesus left for His church... LOVE ONE ANOTHER...

And that kind of love isn't some weak watered down tolerance... that is REAL love... the love that leads to the cross... the love that loves the sinner yet hates sin... thats the kind of love that will set you and me free...

 

[tigerboy]

err....does anyone else feel like they've been suckered?

 

[Philip Babineaux]

heh... what do you mean tigerboy? (just wondering)

i think we have all been suckered in our lives... people talk with such authority and throw scripture around... but it is sooo obvious when there is no love... man... amazing... we listen and get condemned, and guilt-tripped, and shamed... when the Lord comes to build and sometimes men destroy... i am glad that Jesus has set us free from condemnation, and that He is the only judge...

I was thinking last night and the Lord really impressed upon me some awesome things...

He said that if a man is unwilling to bend in judging others, He will recieve the same tolerance from the Father... no bend... wow... reminds me of the forgiveness and debtor issues... when you do not forgive you CAN NOT be forgiven... its amazing that God takes soo seriously our relationships with each other, that He would literally repay our level of obedience and actions right back to us....

I guess the golden rule actually means more than we thought? Do unto others as you desire the Lord to do unto you? hm...

 

[nadroj1985]

heh... what do you mean tigerboy? (just wondering)

I think he meant maybe Street Preacher was just acting all fundy on us as a joke, and wasn't serious. I hope so, because I could hardly make sense of his posts.

i think we have all been suckered in our lives... people talk with such authority and throw scripture around... but it is sooo obvious when there is no love... man... amazing... we listen and get condemned, and guilt-tripped, and shamed... when the Lord comes to build and sometimes men destroy... i am glad that Jesus has set us free from condemnation, and that He is the only judge...

I was thinking last night and the Lord really impressed upon me some awesome things...

He said that if a man is unwilling to bend in judging others, He will recieve the same tolerance from the Father... no bend... wow... reminds me of the forgiveness and debtor issues... when you do not forgive you CAN NOT be forgiven... its amazing that God takes soo seriously our relationships with each other, that He would literally repay our level of obedience and actions right back to us....

I guess the golden rule actually means more than we thought? Do unto others as you desire the Lord to do unto you? hm...

Good post