AND HOW ARE WE SAVED ?

[Diamond72]

Eph 2:8 , that says we are SAVED by Grace

The Grace of God does a work in us. I attended a Church called Grace Church.

 

[Diamond72]

That is when Peter said..."Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

The earth was cleansed with water and soon many believe the earth will be cleansed by fire. When I was first saved it was as if I was on fire for God as He cleanses us of unGodlyness. Numbers 31 23everything that can withstand the fire— must be put through the fire, and it will be clean. But it must still be purified with the water of purification. And everything that cannot withstand the fire must pass through the water.

1 Peter 1:7 says, "Your faith will be like gold that has been tested in a fire".

 

[Hoping2]

The earth was cleansed with water and soon many believe the earth will be cleansed by fire.

It will be, in the end.

When I was first saved it was as if I was on fire for God as He cleanses us of unGodlyness.

When I was first converted, all my unGodliness was cleansed by the waters of my baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins. (Acts 2:38)
Having then been raised with Christ to walk in newness of life, (Rom 6:4), my walk in now Godly.

Numbers 31 23everything that can withstand the fire— must be put through the fire, and it will be clean. But it must still be purified with the water of purification. And everything that cannot withstand the fire must pass through the water.
1 Peter 1:7 says, "Your faith will be like gold that has been tested in a fire".

 

[Diamond72]

When I was first converted, all my unGodliness was cleansed by the waters of my baptism

I was in a Baptist church for a while but it seems like they preach the same sermon over and over again.

 

[Hoping2]

I was in a Baptist church for a while but it seems like they preach the same sermon over and over again.

Did you move on, to find something better ?

 

[Diamond72]

Did you move on, to find something better ?

Yes, I found a church where the worship was a lot better and the teaching was more bible based. I could pretty much attend any church. They are not that much different.

 

[Dan Perez]

You don't have any verses that say water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins is now unnecessary.

And I have shown to all what Acts 1:5 for John indeed BAPTIZED with WATER // HUDOR , BUT you will be will be

BAPTIZED ( NO WATER USED HERE , ) with Holy Spirt , not many of these days AFTER ..

# 1 DOES the Holy Spirit BAPTIZED with WATER // HUDOR TODAY ??

# 2 If I missed that verse , print it for me , please ?

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

Yes, I found a church where the worship was a lot better and the teaching was more bible based. I could pretty much attend any church. They are not that much different.

Once you start asking questions, the differences will be revealed.

 

[Hoping2]

And I have shown to all what Acts 1:5 for John indeed BAPTIZED with WATER , BUT you will be will be

BAPTIZED with Holy Spirit not many of these days AFTER ..

# 1 DOES the Holy Spirit BAPTIZE with WATER TODAY ??

No, preachers baptize using water, in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins. (Acts 2:38, 22:16)
If the repentance from sin was real, the baptism of the Holy Spirit, also called the gift of the Holy Ghost, will be given after water baptism.
Just as Peter portrayed it in Acts 2:38..."Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."
1, 2, 3.

 

[Diamond72]

Once you start asking questions, the differences will be revealed.

The Methodist Church is suppose to follow the teachings of John Wesley but they don't really. Jesus warns us if we follow someone's teaching we will repeat their mistakes and then some.

 

[Dan Perez]

No, preachers baptize using water, in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins. (Acts 2:38, 22:16)
If the repentance from sin was real, the baptism of the Holy Spirit, also called the gift of the Holy Ghost, will be given after water baptism.
Just as Peter portrayed it in Acts 2:38..."Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."
1, 2, 3.

And you are saying that Acts 2:38 is for today , just asking ??

dan p

 

[Diamond72]

And you are saying that Acts 2:38 is for today , just asking ??

I attended a church where the pastor wanted to catch up to the level of the early church. Today we try to go beyond what they were able to do.

 

[Dan Perez]

I attended a church where the pastor wanted to catch up to the level of the early church. Today we try to go beyond what they were able to do.

Can you reply to the question , PLEASE ?

Is Acts 2:38 FOR TODAY ?

dan p

 

[Diamond72]

Can you reply to the question , PLEASE ?

Is Acts 2:38 FOR TODAY ?

Yes if course Acts 2:38 is for today. Forever and always. It takes more then to get dunked in the water though. In fact I left the Baptist Church because they would not Baptize my son. Baptism in the Anglo tradition means that all of the church and God parents do all they can to raise a child in the love of God.

Water baptism symbolizes purification, renewal, and admission into the faith. For Christians, it represents the washing away of sin, a public declaration of faith, and the believer's identification with the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. It’s like a tangible expression of an inner transformation and a commitment to live a life of faith.

Psalm 51:16-17, where David says:

"For you do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it; you do not take pleasure in burnt offerings. My sacrifice, O God, is a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart you, God, will not despise."

David emphasizes that God values genuine repentance and humility over ritual sacrifices.

 

[Hoping2]

The Methodist Church is suppose to follow the teachings of John Wesley but they don't really. Jesus warns us if we follow someone's teaching we will repeat their mistakes and then some.

Unfortunately, Wesley started out with the right ideas, but ended up blending in with the other false prophets.

 

[Hoping2]

And you are saying that Acts 2:38 is for today , just asking ??

dan p

Of course it is.
Nothing has changes since the day of Pentecost, except the world.

 

[Diamond72]

Unfortunately, Wesley started out with the right ideas

Wesley began the Holiness teaching but people did not believe they could live sin free. His argument was what sin is God not able to deliver us from. I think the issue is people do not really want to live free from sin. Look at alcoholics for example. Usually only 10% are able to sober up and stay off of the alcohol.

 

[Hoping2]

Wesley began the Holiness teaching but people did not believe they could live sin free.

Some did.

His argument was what sin is God not able to deliver us from. I think the issue is people do not really want to live free from sin.

Bingo !

Look at alcoholics for example. Usually only 10% are able to sober up and stay off of the alcohol.

Man can do whatever he really wants.

 

[Dan Perez]

Yes if course Acts 2:38 is for today. Forever and always. It takes more then to get dunked in the water though. In fact I left the Baptist Church because they would not Baptize my son. Baptism in the Anglo tradition means that all of the church and God parents do all they can to raise a child in the love of God.

Water baptism symbolizes purification, renewal, and admission into the faith. For Christians, it represents the washing away of sin, a public declaration of faith, and the believer's identification with the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. It’s like a tangible expression of an inner transformation and a commitment to live a life of faith.

Psalm 51:16-17, where David says:

"For you do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it; you do not take pleasure in burnt offerings. My sacrifice, O God, is a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart you, God, will not despise."

David emphasizes that God values genuine repentance and humility over ritual sacrifices.

 

[Dan Perez]

If Acts 2:38 is for today ?

# 1 What do you have to REPENT of ?

# 2 Since Acts 2:36 and 37 is speaking to Israel ?

dan p