The "litmus test" established by CF for participating in the "Christians Only" forums is adherence to the Nicene Creed. Logically, there has to be some sort of benchmark or just anyone could claim to be "Christian" by their own definition of the word. But it's only about those forums that are so designated. We have many non-Christians and Atheists who are welcome to participate in other discussions.
At the "risk of a
Christian being banned" my problem is not with the first 38,
Nor 40-41 points of the "creed" but,
seems to me #39:
"I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins**. (Ephesians 4:5; Acts 2:38)"
** May be interpreted as baptism is a matter of obedience and not a
requirement for salvation or as a regenerating ordinance."
to be a "loaded" statement, i.e: It
Could be interpreted TWO Different ways,
Depending On "Which Scriptures" are used to "present one's view."
So with all Due Respect And Love, IF I
may - I
see THREE possibilities?:
Orthodox?
(1) "I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins" = water
For salvation
(Acs 2:38; Luk 7:29-30, Luk 1:4; Mrk 16:16 KJB!) {Roman catholic, church of Christ,
et al?} I "do acknowledge" this, but, only "for the Previous Dispensation Of the Law."
(2) ** May be interpreted as baptism is a matter of obedience and not a
requirement for salvation or as a regenerating ordinance. {Protestants,
non-denoms?} I used to agree with this.
My current
UNorthodox{?} "view"
at the "risk of being banned"?:
Not "adhering to the Nicene Creed"?:
(3)
"I acknowledge ONE Baptism for the remission of sins" =
Under The Current "Dispensation Of God's GRACE," my salvation
being "GRACE Through faith," That This "ONE Baptism" would refer
To:
"By ONE Spirit are we all Baptized Into ONE Body, whether we be
Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all
made to drink into ONE Spirit!"
(1 Cor 12:13 with "corroboration from":
Eph 4:5; Rom 6:3-6; Gal 3:27 KJB!)
So, Albion you "see Why I do
Agree With The WORDING" of the statement,
IF "my sins were Forgiven Concurrent/after" This Baptism {God's
OPERATION!} Was Performed On me, however:
I would have to
Disagree IF "my sins were Forgiven BEFORE"
The OPERATION, Correct?
Now that I have "discussed
what is not permitted," I expect I will be
hearing from the moderators shortly, about my "IF I am banned, I am banned."
{in which case, Great Discussion, and, good-bye
Precious friend.}
Albion, Thanks So Much For your "help" in
This Important Matter,
And May God Bless you And yours VERY RICHLY! See you
In
HIS Great GloryLand! ♫
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"To The Praise Of The Glory Of HIS {Amazing} GRACE!"