An Open Marriage

[Armoured]

And dad and his boyfriend.

This really isn't a hard question for Christians is it? Polyandrous marriage isn't of God. Open marriage is heathen, not Christian. Christians clarify from that perspective and they're mocked for it. Telling, isn't it?

That whole "non religious reasons" bit slipped right past, didn't it?

 

[quatona]

To understand this, you have to look at the reasons for marriage in the first place, and they have nothing to do with love.

• To form an economic partnership
• To know who has a right to have sex with whom (most murders are over women)
• To raise children in a stable home

I understand that these are your reasons, and I understand that the following only applies to those who also have those reasons for marriage.

While polygamy can fit these parameters (and historically has been recognized as marriage) an open marriage does not. The others whom one sleeps with one does not form an economic partnership with.

They aren´t married, so I fail to see how this is of any relevance. The married couple does form an economic partnership - this your purpose of marriage will still be intact.

One has a right to have sex with everyone, which ends up causing all the problems with jealousy that marriage is supposed to stop.

Yes, this is a fair warning. Open marriage and polyarmory is not for people who are jealous, idealize jealousy and/or want their jealousy to be sheltered.

And the biggest problem of all is that children are born that are not those of the married couple, leading to the homelife being less stable as kids go back and forth between different homes to see different parents.

...assuming the unmarried partners have children with each other, that is.
I can see that this can bring problems. Other problems than other ways children are raised can bring, I must add. Consequently, the solutions must be different.
I can also see how an environment that isn´t appreciative of this form of relationship can increase the problems of the children (or even cause them).

So, indeed a couple of things are more complex and more complicated than in a sexual exclusive marriage. No one said it would be easy, though. Oh wait, this guy did:

A security blanket of sorts. Fool around with whomever and always have a wife or husband to come home to. It's immature, imo.

 

[quatona]

Another reason for marriage is to genetically stabilize the family line of the offspring.

That one´s new to me.

It's not all about "fun and games" as some would like to believe.

Agreed. Just like any relationship, partnership or marriage it requires consideration, awareness and work.

Being in an open marriage can be compared to the sexual habits of a herd of buffalo (or other animals) with no thought being given to the outcome of their actions.

Well, no, it can´t. People can be thoughtful or thoughtless ("buffalo"-like, as you put it) in all sorts of relationships.

 

[evoeth]

Can you tell me why an open marriage is sin not using religious reasons?

Sin is an inherently religious concept. Therefore, your question doesn't make sense.

Sin: transgression of divine law

 

[IAMANOBODY2015]

An Open Marriage


How does love fit in?

Do they love the others they are having intimate relations with?

Is it a hobby?

Good questions.

Do they love each other? They may think they love each other. But probably not.

No, they probably don't love the people they are intimate with.

Yes, it is a hobby or can be a job. Like if it was porn and they got paid for it.

 

[IAMANOBODY2015]

Sin is an inherently religious concept. Therefore, your question doesn't make sense.

Sin: transgression of divine law

That is why I said on another post that I meant to say why is it morally wrong.

 

[heatedmonk]

I understand that these are your reasons, and I understand that the following only applies to those who also have those reasons for marriage.

They aren´t married, so I fail to see how this is of any relevance.

This thread is entitled "an open marriage". Wouldn't any opinion concerning marriage be relevant?
When dating, unless the couple agrees to be exclusive, is typically open and is not the same as marriage. As we know.

 

[brinny]

Good questions.

Do they love each other? They may think they love each other. But probably not.

No, they probably don't love the people they are intimate with.

Yes, it is a hobby or can be a job. Like if it was porn and they got paid for it.

Thank you for sharing.

 

[brinny]

That is why I said on another post that I meant to say why is it morally wrong.

Actually it's a very good question.

One would need to determine what "moral" means, perhaps.

 

[brinny]

This thread is entitled "an open marriage". Wouldn't any opinion concerning marriage be relevant?
When dating, unless the couple agrees to be exclusive, is typically open and is not the same as marriage. As we know.

And therein lies the stickler.....

why get married at all?

 

[heatedmonk]

And therein lies the stickler.....

why get married at all?

My point exactly.

That will be the next hurdle in society as far as the law pertaining to marriage. Polygamy. An equal right. Watch.

 

[brinny]

My point exactly.

That will be the next hurdle in society as far as the law pertaining to marriage. Polygamy. An equal right. Watch.

Most interesting.

 

[Meowzltov]

And therein lies the stickler.....

why get married at all?

Like I said...

• To form an economic partnership

• To know who has a right to have sex with whom (most murders are over women)

• To raise children in a stable home

 

[Armoured]

My point exactly.

That will be the next hurdle in society as far as the law pertaining to marriage. Polygamy. An equal right. Watch.

Maybe.

So?

It's Biblical at least. If everyone involved gives their fully informed, uncoerced consent, why not let 'em?

 

[Meowzltov]

That will be the next hurdle in society as far as the law pertaining to marriage. Polygamy. An equal right. Watch.

You know what, as long as polygamy isn't with teenage girl, I say why not let them screw up their lives. After all, we have people living in sin already which is worse. Polygamy is a headache. What happens when someone wants to divorce? How do they split the property? Who gets the kids? We are so not ready for polygamous divorce.

 

[heatedmonk]

You know what, as long as polygamy isn't with teenage girl, I say why not let them screw up their lives.

That is a hurdle already able to be overcome. The marrying teen girls part.

An adult can marry a teenager if their parents sign permission.

After all, we have people living in sin already which is worse. Polygamy is a headache. What happens when someone wants to divorce? How do they split the property? Who gets the kids? We are so not ready for polygamous divorce.

Imagine the benefits if all spouses worked and the inequality that would present. That actually may be the out the opposition has when the polygamists pursue their agenda using the same latch words as did the SS agenda.
"We just want to be equal to everyone else in marriage." Etc....

Meanwhile, polyamory is able to be practiced among consenting adults now. They just don't have the benefits that would be afforded in marriage.

And I agree with you, the headache when the relationships failed would be enormous.

 

[brinny]

You know what, as long as polygamy isn't with teenage girl, I say why not let them screw up their lives. After all, we have people living in sin already which is worse. Polygamy is a headache. What happens when someone wants to divorce? How do they split the property? Who gets the kids? We are so not ready for polygamous divorce.

Do you know if there are any statistics on these kinds of divorces?

 

[brinny]

The more subtle dynamics....

seem almost "cult-like"

At the very least, narcissistic (regarding any children involved)

 

[Jack of Spades]

How do they split the property? Who gets the kids? We are so not ready for polygamous divorce.

Those are just legal technicalities. Not really relevant to the moral side of it imho. For comparsion, there are allready companies which have thousands of shareholders and appear to be running well, so it's all about writing good rules for the system and it will work. If it's morally not problematic, covering all possible scenarios is a onetime headache for lawmakers.

That being said, I wouldn't be very excited about the idea of being involved in 8 people divorce drama where I'm having sex with all of them and have kids with 3 of them and we all want each others money and half of us wants all the kids. But if someone else wants to risk that mess happening, none of my problem.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

Open marriage is heathen, not Christian.

Even most heathens have better sense.

It's Biblical at least.

Polygyny is. Polyandry is not.

If everyone involved gives their fully informed, uncoerced consent, why not let 'em?

What difference would it make otherwise?