An open debate to Atheists on a creator.

Bugeyedcreepy said:

On one hand, a genome speciating into two is something we have seen occur naturally many numerous times,

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but we never seen evolution of a new kind of creature. just variation of the same kind.

Bugeyedcreepy said:

so mutations is exactly evidence for common descent - on the other hand, an unseen, unexplained and undefined entity creating any genomes whatsoever let alone two nearly identical genomes has never been observed.

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incorrect. we did seen it in the lab.

pitabread said:

You do realize that all you are suggesting is that if life was created, it was created to have the appearance of evolution.

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not realy. its just mean that many creatures were very similar to each other in their creation event. thats it.

sfs said:

Okay, now we've finally gotten back to where we were the last time we discusses this. Now on to the question I actually asked: if this possibility is the correct explanation, and humans and chimpanzees once had nearly identical genomes, what will we find when we compare the human genome to that of an orangutan or a baboon?

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if its true then under the creation scenario we cant know (since we can know how much different the original genome was). on the other hand: evolution doesnt predict it either. for instance: if the orangutan genome was more similar to human genome we can just change the phylogeny.

by the way: i have look at you post in biologos in general. from your post:

"An additional complication: our DNA has two complementary strands, and we do not know which strand a mutation occurred on"

so how do you solve this problem?

2) have you checked for CpG transition (highest rate mutation) in other creatures too? (say a cow vs dolphin).