An FYI. Terror from the Right

[Sistrin]

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Ok, seriously, what is this supposed to mean?

 

[JustOneWay]

Loving the right-wing terror denial by the usual suspects....

Honestly, you can't get through a thread without trying to put all the bad back on the liberals.

This is a classic sign of uber-partisanship.

 

[rambot]

Loving the right-wing terror denial by the usual suspects.....

But that's because there IS NO right wing JustOneWay. Someday all us stupid leftists will understand that you can't classify people on the right wing of the political spectrum as right wing. If only we'd look at NightHawkeye's graph that delineates two sides of the political spectrum, we'd understand that there's no such thing as a group that can collectively called "right wing".

 

[NightHawkeye]

But that's because there IS NO right wing JustOneWay. Someday all us stupid leftists will understand that you can't classify people on the right wing of the political spectrum as right wing. If only we'd look at NightHawkeye's graph that delineates two sides of the political spectrum, we'd understand that there's no such thing as a group that can collectively called "right wing".

When right-wing terror strikes ... by all means you should point it out.

When left-wing terror strikes ... by all means you should expect it to be pointed out for what it is.

 

[stamperben]

When right-wing terror strikes ... by all means you should point it out.

When left-wing terror strikes ... by all means you should expect it to be pointed out for what it is.

I posted my list, where's yours?

 

[rambot]

When right-wing terror strikes ... by all means you should point it out.

As has been done in this thread's OP. We're just not sure what your reticence to accept right wing violence as right wing violence comes from and frankly, it has only been explained as "some of us are smart enough to understand" kind of messages without any real explanation.

When left-wing terror strikes ... by all means you should expect it to be pointed out for what it is.

And I'm sure we will! Let me know when the socialists and communists attack.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

If there are no guns, there are no gun related homicides.

Unless you're advocating an all out gun ban, then this comment is a moot point.

And thus far, there is no evidence to suggest that lowering the gun ownership rate will have any impact on murder rates.

The nations that are often touted as "Gun control success stories" already had low murder rates to begin with prior to the strict legislation being enacted. ...and in most cases, the laws were purely in response to isolated events, like the Dunblane incident in the UK.

...and suicides shouldn't even enter the conversation. For one thing, the rights of everyone else shouldn't be limited based on what a suicidal person might hurt themselves with. Second, international data would suggest that the removal of guns just moves every other method of suicide up one spot in the rankings. the number of "suicides by firearm" drops, but the overall suicide number itself remains fairly static.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I'm unclear here. An I being accused of hypocrisy because I haven't started any threads about either ISIL or leftwing terrorism?

Wow.

From whom?

I haven't read all of the posts from other posters on this thread yet...but my opposition to the premise of this thread was that it seemed like nothing more than a way to take a jab a political opponents under the guise of "being truly concerned about a problem".

I don't read minds...maybe you were sincere in that claim. However, the numerous other left-wing posters who have resorted to posting lists of "right-wing terror" were doing so in order to rebuttal conservatives who were voicing concerns over Islamic terror on the grounds that "see, your side is worse, you've got no right to talk"

 

[RLBeers]

And by the by, the quoted words, that's easy less than 20% of the total. Probably even less than 5%. My, that's a lot of right-wing violence in this country, ain't it?

Yep is sure is. What is the point of your putting this forward, especially on this forum? The nearly universal message from the left side of the political aisle is that in order to be a Christian, one who has accepted Jesus as Lord and savior is that they are also prone to the violence you list. Nothing could be further from the truth, but try getting one of those claiming all violence is right wing to even listen, much less believe.

 

[RLBeers]

From whom?

I haven't read all of the posts from other posters on this thread yet...but my opposition to the premise of this thread was that it seemed like nothing more than a way to take a jab a political opponents under the guise of "being truly concerned about a problem".

I don't read minds...maybe you were sincere in that claim. However, the numerous other left-wing posters who have resorted to posting lists of "right-wing terror" were doing so in order to rebuttal conservatives who were voicing concerns over Islamic terror on the grounds that "see, your side is worse, you've got no right to talk"

An excellent point.

 

[JustOneWay]

I would be happy if right wingers in America would call SOME of these listed in the OP acts terrorism. That is really the point of the thread....

 

[bhsmte]

I would be happy if right wingers in America would call SOME of these listed in the OP acts terrorism. That is really the point of the thread....

I believe Huckabee came right out after that guy shot up the women's health center in Colorado and called it terrorism.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Loving the right-wing terror denial by the usual suspects....

I, for one, never denied that it existed...in fact I acknowledged it 3 times in this thread.

My opposition to the premise of this thread was due to, what I felt was, and agenda-driven way of presenting the data in efforts for people to try to make a point about their political opponents.

 

[bhsmte]

I, for one, never denied that it existed...in fact I acknowledged it 3 times in this thread.

My opposition to the premise of this thread was due to, what I felt was, and agenda-driven way of presenting the data in efforts for people to try to make a point about their political opponents.

It is an "ideology" driven thread, like many are on CF.

 

[super animator]

It is an "ideology" driven thread, like many are on CF.

The question is, that are people are aware of their ideologies?

 

[Armoured]

one of those claiming all violence is right wing

Who made that claim?

 

[ecco]

Unless you're advocating an all out gun ban, then this comment is a moot point.

I'm advocating an all out gun ban.

And thus far, there is no evidence to suggest that lowering the gun ownership rate will have any impact on murder rates.

See above.

 

[bhsmte]

The question is, that are people are aware of their ideologies?

I think some are very aware of their ideologies and how they dominate their thought process.

What I find most interesting on CF, is when certain folks, must ignore well evidenced reality, to protect their ideology.

 

[bhsmte]

I'm advocating an all out gun ban.

See above.

A gun ban from this point forward, or are you advocating taking away all the guns from people who already have them?

You know, we tried this with prohibition many years ago with alcohol and all that did was allow the criminal element to provide what people wanted and readily were able to get, with money. Same with illegal drugs, all you need is money and if you don't have any, you steal some, to get what you want.

 

[super animator]

I'm advocating an all out gun ban.

Which is just as effective as banning alcohol which spurn the prohibition era.