An example of "tolerance"

[Bubbahotep]

Why they federal funding is beyond me. If they want their double standards, then they can have them on their own dime.

What he said was perfectly acceptable.

Political correctness is going to ruin this nation.

 

[JustOneWay]

I do not want my tax money going to NPR, I never did. This might do it.

Tell you what....

You can get back the couple of dollars your taxes went towards NPR as soon as I get back my hundreds of dollars that went to making bombs and bullets to kill innocent women and children around the globe.

 

[Ringo84]

If they want their double standards

What double standards?
Ringo

 

[Saving Hawaii]

What he said was perfectly acceptable.

I quote the NPR Ethics Code:

In appearing on TV or other media including electronic Web-based forums, NPR journalists should not express views they would not air in their role as an NPR journalist. They should not participate in shows electronic forums, or blogs that encourage punditry and speculation rather than fact-based analysis.
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I think it's settled then.

 

[KIYX]

You would have to expand on that statement to have it logically make sense to me considering what you are quoting.

Edit. Never mind I get it. No, saying that lumping people together is incorrect after you just lumped them together doesn’t make it better.

Except he didnt' lump them together.

Honestly try reading what he said not what you wish he said.

 

[KIYX]

So the idea that the reports of someone who openly admits to fearing a group of people might not be reliable has no credence with you? Someone can fear libertarians and they can be trusted to reliably give unbiased information about them? You, sir, are a trusting soul.

And no, I won't retract a reasonable statement. I don't need to find specific examples of an individual's faults to contradict a reasonable principle.

Ok so you were making it all up when you claimed his biases effected his reporting.

Gotcha.

 

[KIYX]

Where's the double standard?
Ringo

In the minds of some of the right-wing listeners.

So it's in peoples mind that NPR has had people say that the world would be better off without christians, hope that a republican gets aids, and hopes a commentator dies and all the folks who said that kept their jobs, but JW says something about muslims and BAM he's gone?

All that's in peoples minds?

 

[KIYX]

I quote the NPR Ethics Code:

In appearing on TV or other media including electronic Web-based forums, NPR journalists should not express views they would not air in their role as an NPR journalist. They should not participate in shows electronic forums, or blogs that encourage punditry and speculation rather than fact-based analysis.
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I think it's settled then.

Nothing is settled, either that's a brand new code or they are very very selective on it's use.

 

[yusufevans]

Except he didnt' lump them together.
Honestly try reading what he said not what you wish he said.

Actually, he did lump Muslims together. If he saw a Muslim on the street, he's not nervous. He sees the same Muslim on the plane, it makes him nervous. He also said we shouldn't blame all Muslims for the acts of a few. You don't see the irony in that?

 

[Bubbahotep]

In appearing on TV or other media including electronic Web-based forums, NPR journalists should not express views they would not air in their role as an NPR journalist. They should not participate in shows electronic forums, or blogs that encourage punditry and speculation rather than fact-based analysis.

Sounds like they're ethics code is pretty unethical. And with them being funded by the government, I don't think they have the right to penalize personal opinions.

Actually, he did lump Muslims together. If he saw a Muslim on the street, he's not nervous. He sees the same Muslim on the plane, it makes him nervous. He also said we shouldn't blame all Muslims for the acts of a few. You don't see the irony in that?

Do you not see the vast difference between being suspicious of someone, and blaming them for something?

 

[laconicstudent]

A view shared by most American's and probably Europeans. The point of all this is that there is no such thing as "free" speech. Clearly Juan's firing will serve as a warning to other journalists with public radio/TV that you better watch what you say.

Thankfully, as I had predicted, Roger Ailes of Fox offered Jaun a nice $2 million contract and an increases role at Fox News. Shame on NPR, it's there loss.

Why on Earth would Europeans believe in "free speech"?

 

[yusufevans]

Do you not see the vast difference between being suspicious of someone, and blaming them for something?

Suspicion brings about blame, period. He's suspicious of a Muslim, because of violence other Muslims have done in the past. The Muslim on the plane is most likely just trying to reach the destination he paid the ticket for, but because of past atrocities comitted by extremists in his religion, Mr. Williams is fearful this Muslim might be violent. He's judging the book by its cover, which is exactly what people do when they rail out against Islam and say this and that about Muslims.

Now please tell me, what exactly is he not doing again?

 

[Grizzly]

Here's an interesting response from the NPR Ombudsman.

NPR's Firing of Juan Williams Was Poorly Handled : NPR Ombudsman : NPR

“News analysts may not take personal public positions on controversial issues; doing so undermines their credibility as analysts, and that’s what’s happened in this situation,” said Schiller in an email to NPR member stations, some of which are upset about Williams' firing.

“As you all well know," she continued, "we offer views of all kinds on your air every day, but those views are expressed by those we interview – not our reporters and analysts.”

NPR has a different model than Fox News.

 

[JustOneWay]

It is official. Williams is a typical Fox News analyst....

 

[WillRockwell]

Juan Williams was obviously pandering to the Fox News doctrine that America is engaged in a war against Muslims. He deserved to be fired, and will be very happy at Fox.

 

[chaz345]

And that's a boneheaded statement, too. What is a "typical white person"? Just because Obama said it doesn't mean I'm going to give it a free pass.

Then Obama should be fired?

 

[eldermike]

Tell you what....

You can get back the couple of dollars your taxes went towards NPR as soon as I get back my hundreds of dollars that went to making bombs and bullets to kill innocent women and children around the globe.

I don't know you so I have no idea if you actually pay taxes. About half of us do not pay a dime in income taxes. So when you say hundreds of dollars just for military I must assume you are one of top payers. If that's true I support your right to complain about how your money is spent.

 

[chaz345]

What double standards?
Ringo

That people at NPR who say things as bad as this if not worse about the Tea Party are still employed.

 

[WillRockwell]

Williams will be happier and make more money at Fox. No longer any reason for him to pretend he's not biased

 

[childofGod1]

Williams will be happier and make more money at Fox. No longer any reason for him to pretend he's not biased

LOL! He's always been biased toward the left. I don't think anyone has ever seriously questioned that. What's really hilarious is seeing the left cannibalize their own.