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Are you claiming to have an open mind? I refuse to believe that someone who wishes to impose her way of life upon others has an open mind.
Please - and I mean this kindly, REALLY - the Words of the Lord say nothing about homosexuality. I know I sound like a broken laser disc (I've upgraded the expression) but the issue of homosexuality that we are discussing on this subforum - that is, one's innate sexual orientation and 'issues' that may be asscociated WITH one's sexual orientation - is not addressed in the Bible at all. It really isn't!
Yet it is ok for the other side to impose their way of life..........................and that is open minded....................................hummmmmmmmmmmmm.............well ok, now I understand.
Yet it is ok for the other side to impose their way of life..........................and that is open minded....................................hummmmmmmmmmmmm.............well ok, now I understand.
They care about making gay people conform to their standards of morality.Me marrying my partner doesn't impact your rights in anyway. Just because you think something is wrong and gross doesn't mean if it is allowed then your rights are taken away.
I don't know why I'm bothering. Its not like you care about gay people in the least.
They care about making gay people conform to their standards of morality.
Is there anything inherently wrong with conformity?
It depends. In terms of expecting others to conform to a group of people's personal understanding of the Scriptures (which has caused a great deal of division even among believers, not just on the issue of homosexuality) when said person is not an adherent of that group then yes, there is something severely wrong with conformity.
Me marrying my partner doesn't impact your rights in anyway. Just because you think something is wrong and gross doesn't mean if it is allowed then your rights are taken away.See there is where you are wrong. They want, and in some schools are teaching that mommy and daddy can be two men or two women, and the parents don't have a choice as to whether that is taught to their children or not. So yes it does affect me, and my family.
I don't know why I'm bothering. Its not like you care about gay people in the least.
I'm glad you never get tired of bearing false witness. By the way can you show me where you care about heterosexual people in your post? Is that caring shown in your continual stating things about people that isn't true, like above?
Could you please show me where you are concerned about where I will spend eternity in any of your post.
Show me where I have called you a hater, bigot or prejudice, because you don't believe that homosexuality is a sin. Not saying you have called me the above names, just stating the names that have been used to try and discredit me, and/or make me feeling guilty so I will give up my beliefs or be silent about the truths I feel we are told to share.
Please tell me how not wanting someone to spend eternity in hell is hate, bigotry, homophobic, or a form of prejudice.
I'm sorry I didn't notice if you are a Christian or not so if you don't profess Christ as your Saviour then nevermind about the questions I ask, because they would only mean something if you are a Christian.
See, I care about straight people because I don't go out of their way to make their lives more difficult.
Is there anything other than "personal understandingof the Scriptures" with which conformity should be encouraged?
Obviously a prime example would be acting within the parameters of local and national laws. Laws are in place so that one person should not be able to infringe upon your basic human rights without facing serious consequences. But there is a huge difference between expecting people to conform to the laws so that you are not raped, beaten, murdered, robbed of your possessions, etc. and expecting the government to pass laws because a certain relationship situation makes you uncomfortable. We have no fundamental human right to not see or know about things that make us uncomfortable.
Do you agree that one should conform to just laws, and not conform to unjust laws?
When a family intervenes in a member's addiction, requiring the member to address his problem or face particular consequences, are they not making his life more difficult? I am not suggesting that homosexuality and drug or alcohol abuse are similar, but I am questioning the assumption that love, or "care", is exclusively or inherently aimed at avoiding difficulty.
Most laws that are out dated, yet remain on the books, are never applied. Throughout the years, the Supreme Court has ruled in favor of striking down state and federal laws that were deemed unconstitutional. Could you, perhaps, give a specific example of what would be an unjust law that is still in effect today?
When people care, they try to understand whats going on in the person's life. When an anti gay person tries to convince a gay person to be single for their whole life or make them unable to marry, then they aren't trying to under stand, just punish.
In your efforts to deny rights to gay people you have shown you don't care about us at all. See, I care about straight people because I don't go out of their way to make their lives more difficult.
As for schools, I can see why it would be damaging to your cause for your kids to be taught that gay couple exist and deserve respect. How could you convince them to tell lies about gay people and their lives if they knew anything about it. Also: me getting married doesn't have anything to do with what they teach in schools.
I'm not teaching that all people don't deserve respect, but that doesn't have anything to do with the fact that all sin and what some of those sins are.
So your rights override mine?
I don't have the right to not have my kids taught things that I don't believe are correct, but I wonder what you would say if the schools were voting to teach that homosexuality is a sin and not normal. What is good for the goose is good for the gander, right?
Please tell me you can see how it isn't right for your or for my kids to be taught either of these sides in school, but should be left to the parents.
Cause and affect "One action leds to another", they are teaching the Dads and Moms being either 2 men or 2 women so that acceptance that this is normal, and so ............................................yes one thing does affect the other.
So again, you try to make something into something that it isn't, because wanting all to go to heaven is not hate or bigotry. Wanting all to go to heaven isn't taking away someones respect or denying their existance, but I'm sure that those who read these post with an open mind and heart see that.
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