An atheists world

[Subduction Zone]

I've already excused you from being any kind of authority on morals, beyond the dictionary.

Please, my morals and the morals of almost any atheists are far superior to yours. We do right because it is right. You do right because of threats and coercion. That does not seem to moral to me.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

God's obligation ended when He told Adam not to eat of the forbidden fruit.

It doesn't really matter though. If he created the world knowing exactly what would happen he's responsible for all of it.

 

[TheBear]

I will start with:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. (John 1:1-3 KJV)

You can't do that. That's not your own original idea. You gotta come up with your own stuff. Otherwise, that's cheating.

 

[AV1611VET]

It doesn't really matter though. If he created the world knowing exactly what would happen he's responsible for all of it.

God's obligation ended when He told Adam not to partake of the forbidden fruit.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

God's obligation ended when He told Adam not to partake of the forbidden fruit.

Knowing full well exactly what Adam would do even before he created Adam.

 

[Split Rock]

Thumbs. That is smart.

So. I'm smarter than God??

But your saying then that creation would deal with rape, murder and child sacrifice. What about the supposed innocent humans?

I never said anything about any of this.

 

[Split Rock]

God's obligation ended when He told Adam not to partake of the forbidden fruit.

"Here little boy.... here is a box of matches... Don't use them to start a fire, though. Bye, bye!"

 

[TheBear]

It's like a parent leaving a toddler in the kitchen with the stove on, and just say don't touch the stove, then leave the kitchen for a while. Good parenting, father almighty. Good parenting.

 

[biggles53]

Please, my morals and the morals of almost any atheists are far superior to yours. We do right because it is right. You do right because of threats and coercion. That does not seem to moral to me.

Well said.....the difficulty that people of faith have is that they claim that their moral stance is taken from that of the god they have invented. Their problem is that this particular god is attributed with some very nasty and unethical practices. When pressed on this, the more honest amongst them will concede that they don't understand why a kind, just, loving and morally upright god would countenance these things, but they justify it as simply 'god's will' and that 'god knows best'....some morality, huh?

 

[AV1611VET]

Knowing full well exactly what Adam would do even before he created Adam.

Ya ... imagine that.

Why do you think He told Adam not to eat it in the first place, if He knew Adam was going to?

(You do know that Jesus volunteered to be the Saviour of mankind before the earth was even created, don't you?)

God wasn't caught off-guard.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Ya ... imagine that.

Why do you think He told Adam not to eat it in the first place, if He knew Adam was going to?

(You do know that Jesus volunteered to be the Saviour of mankind before the earth was even created, don't you?)

God wasn't caught off-guard.

How could he be caught off guard? He's just watching a film for the second time. We can no more make choices than Romeo can choose not to die at the end of of Romeo and Juliette.

 

[biggles53]

Ya ... imagine that.

Why do you think He told Adam not to eat it in the first place, if He knew Adam was going to?

(You do know that Jesus volunteered to be the Saviour of mankind before the earth was even created, don't you?)

God wasn't caught off-guard.

Wonder if he also enjoyed pulling the wings off flies.....

How fortunate that such a creep doesn't exist........

 

[AV1611VET]

"Here little boy.... here is a box of matches... Don't use them to start a fire, though. Bye, bye!"

Little boy? who are you calling a little boy?

Ever heard of maturity without history?

Your ignorance of Adam, and his wife, Eve's level of maturity always reminds me of the rhetoric scientists use when it comes to the issues of abortion and gun control.

When it comes to abortion, school students are "adults" with the right to decide.

But when it comes to school shootings -- like Columbine -- it's a tragedy that "school children" were shot.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's like a parent leaving a toddler in the kitchen with the stove on, and just say don't touch the stove, then leave the kitchen for a while. Good parenting, father almighty. Good parenting.

Adam & Eve could probably have built that kitchen -- and done a better job than anyone.

Remember: amateurs built the Ark, professionals built the Titanic.

 

[TheBear]

Adam & Eve could probably have built that kitchen -- and done a better job than anyone.

Remember: amateurs built the Ark, professionals built the Titanic.

Amazing......

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Little boy? who are you calling a little boy?

Ever heard of maturity without history?

Your ignorance of Adam, and his wife, Eve's level of maturity always reminds me of the rhetoric scientists use when it comes to the issues of abortion and gun control.

When it comes to abortion, school students are "adults" with the right to decide.

But when it comes to school shootings -- like Columbine -- it's a tragedy that "school children" were shot.

God knew before he created the earth that Columbine would happen. His initial decision caused it.

 

[AV1611VET]

He's just watching a film for the second time.

Mixing [my] allegory with [God's] reality and coming up with your brand of theology, are you?

 

[AV1611VET]

How fortunate that such a creep doesn't exist........

Oh, dear.

You don't know my neighborhood (or yours), do you?

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Mixing [my] allegory with [God's] reality and coming up with your brand of theology, are you?

How else do you conceptualize omniscience? We're just robots going through the motions that were set in stone since before the beginning.

 

[AV1611VET]

God knew before he created the earth that Columbine would happen. His initial decision caused it.

I see.

So Hitler is vindicated with your brand of theology as well?

If God is to blame for everything, it is okay to have anarchy and let God pick up the tab?

Let me guess.

The solution is atheism, isn't it?