An atheists world (2)

[toolmanjantzi]

Nonsense. Quit equivocating and define god, or admit you can't.

Actually I asked first "What is Energy?".

God does not fit in your definition box. If He did; that would make him your god.

 

[kellhus]

Actually I asked first "What is Energy?".

For the third time: J=(kg*m^2)/s^2

 

[toolmanjantzi]

Gravity is only a theory.

Yet you observed them.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Actually, can you prove wether those attributes that have chosen to accuse me of are not the same attributes of a atheist on a Christian Forum stating there is no God based on no evidence.

Welcome the Finite Mind of "Subduction Zone".

The time is getting shorter, care to give up your Pride?

Why would I need to?

I have no false beliefs.

How about you?

Seriously it is up to the person making a positive claim to defend it. I will be more than happy to defend my claims about energy. You don't even seem to have a clue what energy is. When you ask clueless questions it is very hard to answer them.

Now you have made positive claims about your God. It is up to you to supply evidence that supports your claims. So far you have not been doing too well.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

No, you haven't.

I have observed gravity in ways that I can describe so that anyone else can objectively observe it and reproduce identical results.

I sincerely doubt if you can do that with your God.

Ask Gradyl or AVET or any Christian if they observe God in the same manner, one observes electromagnetism or gravity. There is your proof.

Although the observation is so much more........

It does not bother me if you don't believe in gravity. Gravity can hold you where it wants. It doesn't bother me wether you believe wether you believe in electromagnetism; on a cellular level you already are a believer of that.

Failure to believe in The Lord, bothers me. Not because I get points, not because it makes me more real, but because your in need of saviour.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

Energy is joules, a joule is the energy expended in appolying a force of one newton over one meter. J = (kg * m^2)/s^2

What is God?

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. (Revelation 1:8 KJV)

Any difference?

God is not only the energy, but the Force behind that energy.

So, what came first the Force or the Energy?

 

[lasthero]

And you're in need of a spellchecker.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Ask Gradyl or AVET or any Christian if they observe God in the same manner, one observes electromagnetism or gravity. There is your proof.

Although the observation is so much more........

It does not bother me if you don't believe in gravity. Gravity can hold you where it wants. It doesn't bother me wether you believe wether you believe in electromagnetism; on a cellular level you already are a believer of that.

Failure to believe in The Lord, bothers me. Not because I get points, not because it makes me more real, but because your in need of saviour.

I asked for objective evidence. That is evidence that is the same for everybody.


If I asked Muslim the same questions I asked AV and gradyl would I get the same answers? How about a Hindu or a Sikh?

In other words since you have no objective evidence you have no proof.

And I do not need a savior, no matter how many "u"s that you spell it with.

 

[Subduction Zone]

toolmanjantzi, a friendly hint.

Ignorance is a terrible tool to use in a debate.

If you have serious questions people here will help you learn.

 

[HitchSlap]

The time is getting shorter, care to give up your Pride?

Indeed. Care to define god, yet?

 

[toolmanjantzi]

Why would I need to?

I have no false beliefs.

How about you?

Seriously it is up to the person making a positive claim to defend it. I will be more than happy to defend my claims about energy. You don't even seem to have a clue what energy is. When you ask clueless questions it is very hard to answer them.

Now you have made positive claims about your God. It is up to you to supply evidence that supports your claims. So far you have not been doing too well.

Your evidence is based on text books, science journals and they have been written by men.

Care to explain why the bible is not proof for my answers, but your answers are correct based on books. If the answers are based on observation, where is the difference based on Christian observation?

The only difference I see like religions of men is the error that is changed over time.

One major error since the laying out of the human genome, is 4.5 billion years is not long enough for one strand of information to suddenly appear out of nothing.

 

[lasthero]

One major error since the laying out of the human genome, is 4.5 billion years is not long enough for one strand of information to suddenly appear out of nothing.

Nobody ever said that happened.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Your evidence is based on text books, science journals and they have been written by men.

Care to explain why the bible is not proof for my answers, but your answers are correct based on books. If the answers are based on observation, where is the difference based on Christian observation?

No, my evidence is not based on text books. What made you think that? I see that you have never taken a science class. My answers are correct because anyone who repeats an experiment that I describe correctly will get the same result.

I seriously doubt that you can do the same with your Bible.

The only difference I see like religions of men is the error that is changed over time.

One major error since the laying out of the human genome, is 4.5 billion years is not long enough for one strand of information to suddenly appear out of nothing.

One strand of information did not suddenly appear out of nothing. You clearly don't understand either evolution or abiogenesis.

You cannot debunk an idea that you do not understand.

 

[Subduction Zone]

And of course the Bible was written by man too. That is obvious by the hundreds of self contradictions, bad science, bad morals and failed prophesies in it.

 

[toolmanjantzi]

I asked for objective evidence. That is evidence that is the same for everybody.

If I asked Muslim the same questions I asked AV and gradyl would I get the same answers? How about a Hindu or a Sikh?

In other words since you have no objective evidence you have no proof.

And I do not need a savior, no matter how many "u"s that you spell it with.

Objective evidence for "pain", when talking to someone with Congenital insensitivity is what?

That since 99% of the population has pain, therefore it exists?

Sorry, but your objective evidence is not fool proof. Observation based on everyone can not be consistent.

For instance abortion laws allow a female to make the choices for her body. If the fetus is a "female", what are her rights for her body?

If sexual organs are no longer the basis for sexual orientation, how can a male fetus be aborted if in his mind he was a female? Who had the right to her body?

Abortion is not the subject. Your objective evidence is. Since a good number of people believe in God or a god is adequate evidence.

 

[kellhus]

Objective evidence for "pain", when talking to someone with Congenital insensitivity is what?

That since 99% of the population has pain, therefore it exists?

Sorry, but your objective evidence is not fool proof. Observation based on everyone can not be consistent.

For instance abortion laws allow a female to make the choices for her body. If the fetus is a "female", what are her rights for her body?

If sexual organs are no longer the basis for sexual orientation, how can a male fetus be aborted if in his mind he was a female? Who had the right to her body?

Abortion is not the subject. Your objective evidence is. Since a good number of people believe in God or a god is adequate evidence.

Well, that makes no sense at all. Rambling about pain, reproductive rights, genitalia, abortion, God, fetal cognition.

 

[Subduction Zone]

kellhus beat me to the punch.

I guess if you have nothing that is all you can spew.

 

[kellhus]

Stellardrone - A Moment Of Stillness (EP) - YouTube

 

[lasthero]

Objective evidence for "pain", when talking to someone with Congenital insensitivity is what?

That since 99% of the population has pain, therefore it exists?

Sorry, but your objective evidence is not fool proof. Observation based on everyone can not be consistent.

For instance abortion laws allow a female to make the choices for her body. If the fetus is a "female", what are her rights for her body?

If sexual organs are no longer the basis for sexual orientation, how can a male fetus be aborted if in his mind he was a female? Who had the right to her body?

Abortion is not the subject. Your objective evidence is.

What is this I don't even.

Since a good number of people believe in God or a god is adequate evidence.

I think what you're trying to say is that, because most people in God or at least some sort of higher power, that's evidence God exists.

No. No, it's not.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Since a good number of people believe in God or a god is adequate evidence.

So are you saying that since 2/3 of the people in the world believe that your God is not the real God is that evidence he does not exist?