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Cajun Huguenot

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I remember when I was in a senior American history class at college, I ask my professor about the religious position of Patrick Henry. My professor was not sure, but said she assumed that Henry was a deist.

My teacher was dead wrong, and she showed her bias. She, like so many others, had bought into the lie that the majority of our founders were not Christians. It is true that some very important men among the Founders rejected the Christian Faith, but they were in fact a minority. For the most part the deist kept their skepticism to themselves or revealed it to only close associates.

Patrick Henry is, as some of you know, my favourite among the American Founders. He was a devout Christian and he was not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ.

Patrick Henry was an Anglican (the official church then) like most of the Virginia gentry, but he strongly supported religious freedom. He was a favourite of the Scotch/Irish Presbyterians and the small but growing number of Baptist in the state.

Henry, who died the same year as Washington --1799, had this to say about this country he played such a vital role in establishing.

It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.

Patrick Henry, in my opinion, was the most farsighted of the Founders. He understood that American liberty was founded on, and was a product of, the Christian faith. He knew that even those that rejected the salvation freely offered in the Gospel benefited from the liberty produced by a Christian culture.

Civil liberty is not common in history. It is in fact rare. It was produced here because of mature Christianity. Such Christianity is now rare, and we are living on the cultural capital produced long before we were born. That capitol is being rapidly spent and (IMHO) when it goes so will our liberty. Let’s work and pray for true, biblical revival, this alone will safeguard liberty for our children, our children's children until the end of time.

Soli Deo Gloria,
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BTW, on this subject of the faith of our Founding Fathers, you all may find this exchange interesting (read from that point forward -- it gets real hot quick). For my efforts to reveal the faith of our Founding Fathers, I was attacked as being a "madman" in need of a "double dobotomy," a "plagiarizer" and one who breaks the Commandments.

It must be nice to be an Atheist where you can simply revise history at your convenience and try to destroy the character of those who defend history.
 
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Cajun Huguenot said:
The liberals and anti-Christians are strongly opposed to the truth of our nations Christian origins.

Kenith

Sad but true. This is a topic that for the most part I've given up discussing with non-Christians and liberals because I just get too frustrated. No matter how much "evidence" I have (right down to extensive writings by said founding fathers), I'm often accused of taking things out of context or misinterpreting what they said.

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Nice thread ccwoody - things did get pretty ugly there. I wish you could have backed your sources up a little better - they seemed to rip you apart pretty good there. A valiant effort non-the-less. Keep it up, bro!
 
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Behe's Boy said:
Nice thread ccwoody - things did get pretty ugly there. I wish you could have backed your sources up a little better - they seemed to rip you apart pretty good there. A valiant effort non-the-less. Keep it up, bro!

Ah, but that is the rub. It was never if the information was right, but was it properly documented. They were never interested in the truth, but only how they may dismiss the truth. Perhaps we can get some better documentation and I'll wad in again under the title "Atheist revisionism and the true faith of the Founding Fathers." Atheists don't scare me and, since it seems that the other Christians here can't reclaim the GA forum for what it should be, perhaps a handful of Calvinist can really bust it up. I've walked away from those kinds of fights before with ex Arminians, Catholics, Atheists, etc walking with us back to the Christian camp.
 
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CCWoody said:
Ah, but that is the rub. It was never if the information was right, but was it properly documented. They were never interested in the truth, but only how they may dismiss the truth. Perhaps we can get some better documentation and I'll wad in again under the title "Atheist revisionism and the true faith of the Founding Fathers." Atheists don't scare me and, since it seems that the other Christians here can't reclaim the GA forum for what it should be, perhaps a handful of Calvinist can really bust it up. I've walked away from those kinds of fights before with ex Arminians, Catholics, Atheists, etc walking with us back to the Christian camp.

what a cool post!!!!!!!!! :clap: :amen:
 
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cygnusx1 said:
what a cool post!!!!!!!!! :clap: :amen:

Thanks, cygnus. Just an update, I was discussing this with the other "elders" in my church (I say that because we haven't particularized yet and none of us are officially elders) and it just so happens that one of them is a history professor here at my university (the advantage of having an RUF associated with your church) and we discussed where I can get some better information.

We also discussed the idea of taking one of the big 4 "Diests" (Franklin, Madison, Adams, Jefferson -- I think these are them), Franklin for instance and demonstrate that a Diest then isn't the same thing as a Diest today. IOW, show that they were much more Orthodox than a Diest today, who is considered heretical.

You see, we don't have to win the argument, just put doubt on the Atheist notions that our FF were by and large Diests. I don't really expect you to join me in this fight cause, after all, when the FF of America were fighting for our freedom England was claiming that "cousin America has run off with a Presbyterian Parson." 250 years ago we might have had to kill each other. :doh: Good thing we are on the same side today. (My dirty secret here is that my own Grandfather immigraged from England/ Scotland so I would have been on the side of England then too. :doh: :doh: (double doh))

I did point out that this fight would only be led by Calvinists cause I get the idea that most Arminians would rather our country have been founded by Diests than Calvinists.

Anyway, if anyone would like to help me research it and put together the arguments, I'd appreciate it. (Yes, this is a calling all Calvinists....)
 
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