Buddha also said there is no God - the point being that beliefs in the existence or non-existence of God are just empty beliefs; what matters is understanding and coming to terms with yourself.
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Buddha also said there is no God - the point being that beliefs in the existence or non-existence of God are just empty beliefs; what matters is understanding and coming to terms with yourself.
Buddha said God is real
Only… God is less than his reputation
(I don't know)
Maybe you're doing it wrong...
The transition to Buddhism was slow and difficult
Starting early in life and moving away from normal concerns
I don't recommend Buddhism
That's generally as good as it gets with diseases like Covid. It's often impossible to say that someone 'died of Covid' - they typically die of problems that Covid probably caused or contributed to, e.g. pneumonia. Excess deaths provide a good estimate of the number of people who probably wouldn't have died if there had been no pandemic.No, we don't. We have estimations.
Laughing. But apparently not those who made authoritative statements without any numbers at all, like you did.Thanks for all that data you collated. I'm sure that some people will be interested to read it all.
Exactly. We don't know. But when it suits the agenda of moving some product by the billions of dollars, suddenly it is a "pandemic of the unvaccinated" and "the unvaccinated are filling the hospitals!!!"That's generally as good as it gets with diseases like Covid. It's often impossible to say that someone 'died of Covid' - they typically die of problems that Covid probably caused or contributed to, e.g. pneumonia. Excess deaths provide a good estimate of the number of people who probably wouldn't have died if there had been no pandemic.
Here in the UK, nearly 80% on those 12+years are fully vaccinated. Only about 1.5% of deaths involving Covid (on the death certificate) are in the fully vaccinated, so the 20% not-fully-vaccinated accounts for over 98% of deaths involving Covid.Exactly. We don't know. But when it suits the agenda of moving some product by the billions of dollars, suddenly it is a "pandemic of the unvaccinated" and "the unvaccinated are filling the hospitals!!!"
That's true to a degree, there will inevitably be some overestimation using excess deaths, but the percentage of those with existential morbidities has dropped considerably since the first wave - a large proportion of those that died early were the elderly and vulnerable with comorbidities.Reality would - and will eventually - tell a different story. It is likely that Great Grandma who had diabetes, arthritis, and cancer, didn't "die of Covid" as the media is screeching constantly. She may have contracted Covid on top of all her comorbidities and probably as a hospital gift that arose because of all her other conditions (we know they pass c diff along to patients regularly). Or maybe she only tested positive and it played zero role in her death from other causes. But all are counted as "covid deaths".
Here in the UK, nearly 80% on those 12+years are fully vaccinated. Only about 1.5% of deaths involving Covid (on the death certificate) are in the fully vaccinated, so the 20% not-fully-vaccinated accounts for over 98% of deaths involving Covid.
Of those in hospital with positive Covid symptoms and tests, the not-fully-vaccinated 20% accounts for about half of admissions.
Notably, the 'not-fully-vaccinated' includes a majority of those with only a single jab, who do have some protection against the virus.
That's true to a degree, there will inevitably be some overestimation using excess deaths, but the percentage of those with existential morbidities has dropped considerably since the first wave - a large proportion of those that died early were the elderly and vulnerable with comorbidities.
You'll have to point me to the specific part of the report that gives those figures, because the 'Variants of Concern' document you linked gives these figures:That's not what we are hearing:
https://assets.publishing.service.g...ants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_17.pdf
A report published Friday by the UK government agency Public Health England reveals individuals who received a COVID-19 vaccine are more than three times more likely to die from the Delta variant than unvaccinated people.
Regarding the most dangerous variant, the Delta, the UK government admits vaccinated people are 3.25 times more likely to die than those who did not take the experimental shot.
Out of 117 total deaths occurring within 28 days of infection, 44 of them were unvaccinated individuals.
All your link says in terms of numbers is this: "The research found seven members of the community tested positive for COVID-19 in early May 2020. This prompted an additional 30 people to get tested, with 23 (77%) returning positive results."I guess if you look long enough then you'll find something to support whatever view you have.
'The Amish communities of northeast Ohio engage in textbook communal living. Families eat, work and go to church together, and through the pandemic, mask-wearing and social distancing have been spotty. As a result, these communities have experienced some of the state's highest rates of infection and deaths.' COVID-19 Has Hit The Amish Community Hard. Still, Vaccines Are A Tough Sell
'Claims on social media that the Amish population has not been affected by COVID-19 are false. Such claims have been used to suggest that vaccines are futile.' Fact Check-Amish communities have been affected by the COVID-19 pandemic
That took me all of a few seconds to find. Now either you copied your info from some social media site or you would have known about those two reports (almost the first two that come up if you search 'Amish covid'.
We generally expect some doubling down at this stage.
Meh - no method of assessing Covid deaths is accurate due to a number of factors, particularly the association with comorbidities, but excess deaths are a statistically validated and widely accepted way of assessing the overall impact of Covid on the death rate.All your link says in terms of numbers is this: "The research found seven members of the community tested positive for COVID-19 in early May 2020. This prompted an additional 30 people to get tested, with 23 (77%) returning positive results."
Ok? Did they die? Did the entire community get hospitalized or die? What are the real numbers? Your links do not say anything specific. The entire second article merely mocks social media post that suggest the Amish were not heavily affected though they did not stop meeting and finally gets to the snippet above, which says basically nothing.
Just the past couple weeks, triple vaxxed Emhoff, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Jen Psaki, and others have been positive AND symptomatic yet again.
So you are going to have to do better than social media mockery to demonstrate that the Amish suffered serious hospitalization and death rates, because I'm not seeing that.
The best this Reuters article could do is summarize the mockery and "fact check" that the Amish "have been affected". Ok. what does that mean in terms of hospitalizations and deaths?
This article with the scary headline actually says nothing inside the content: "The team emphasized that these deaths may or may not be directly related to COVID-19; however, the excess death rates among the Amish/Mennonites mirrored the general COVID-19 infection waves in the United States. Researchers did not access official death certificates (which do not indicate religion/faith) and obituaries usually lacked the cause of death."
So the "researchers" don't have any idea why people died and of what but still are happy to proclaim speculation as fact.
All your link says in terms of numbers is this: "The research found seven members of the community tested positive for COVID-19 in early May 2020. This prompted an additional 30 people to get tested, with 23 (77%) returning positive results."
Ok? Did they die? Did the entire community get hospitalized or die? What are the real numbers? Your links do not say anything specific. The entire second article merely mocks social media post that suggest the Amish were not heavily affected though they did not stop meeting and finally gets to the snippet above, which says basically nothing.
Just the past couple weeks, triple vaxxed Emhoff, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Jen Psaki, and others have been positive AND symptomatic yet again.
So you are going to have to do better than social media mockery to demonstrate that the Amish suffered serious hospitalization and death rates, because I'm not seeing that.
The best this Reuters article could do is summarize the mockery and "fact check" that the Amish "have been affected". Ok. what does that mean in terms of hospitalizations and deaths?
This article with the scary headline actually says nothing inside the content: "The team emphasized that these deaths may or may not be directly related to COVID-19; however, the excess death rates among the Amish/Mennonites mirrored the general COVID-19 infection waves in the United States. Researchers did not access official death certificates (which do not indicate religion/faith) and obituaries usually lacked the cause of death."
So the "researchers" don't have any idea why people died and of what but still are happy to proclaim speculation as fact.
Never noticed it was an older post. I don't get here very often.It took you five months to post a response that does nothing to back up your original claim? Colour me 'not interested'.
Likewise other groups/ countries who did what was right and not only survived well but did not suffer the devastating effects of shutdowns and the increased deaths from isolation.But contracting this virus does not automatically equal serious illness, much less death. Most people survive. Most seriously ill people do recover. Some do not. The Amish were willing to take their chances, let the virus spread, and see what happened. They’re ok with dying. They’re ok with taking care of their sick relatives at home. It doesn’t look as though their society collapsed.
"Those numbers" , in politics and media, are , well, used to prove a particular groups point using statistics that could more easily prove the opposite as well..... Those in power use the power they have over media to control it.Never noticed it was an older post. I don't get here very often.
I know you can't defend those tiny numbers anyway. And I can't find any higher ones. People "had infections". I could not find that more than one died and three were hospitalized. Sounds pretty fair for a community that distanced only briefly.
Did not notice the time lapse. And yes, I well supported my assertions, as I always do.It took you five months to post a response that does nothing to back up your original claim? Colour me 'not interested'.
Do you believe this is true or false, right or wrong ?“It’s extremely unusual,” Lofgren, at Washington State University, said of herd immunity to COVID-19. “It would be the first general population in the United States that’s done it.”
It may well be true the the Amish were the first population to get herd immunity from Covid, but that's the point.Do you believe this is true or false, right or wrong ?
I believe there were many (mostly small) groups and families (large and small)
that lived in a way that they had immunity , even a century ago, or more, from many problems....
they are shunned, banned, or ignored overall
because they don't go along with the state.
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