American Pastor Who Helped Uganda Create ‘Kill The Gays’ Law Will Be Tried For Crimes Against Humani

[Larniavc]

So he is guilty of standing against homosexuality in another country.

Very. And it seems he'll pay for it.

Maybe it's God paying debts.

 

[Larniavc]

From the article "Though he says that he doesn’t believe in homosexuals being incarcerated, he has, on many occasions, equated homosexuality to pedophilia and inappropriate behavior with animals."

Which shows what an abhorrent monster he is. I hope he gets locked up in a very special prison.

And don't forget as the good doctor Ben Carson says: if he goes to prison he will come out gay (because that is how it works).

How ironic.

 

[Larniavc]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Lively#The_Pink_Swastika



Teh Gays invented Nazis apparently.

That does it .

I'm definitely going to make sure my son does not make the decisions to be attracted to men when he grows up: I never knew the gays invented the Nazis!

 

[Aelred of Rievaulx]

A world in which people can write legislation which ensures that gay people can be murdered is not the sort of world I want to live in. But I don't live in the world I want to live in, I live in a cruel, heartless, disgusting consumerist world in which everything in on the market, the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and prideful people feel morally justified in wanting the suffering of others. At the moment most of me wants to give up on this world join a monastery and live out my days in peace in prayer and in judgement against the disgusting attitudes of people.

 

[Smidlee]

We got better.

Lol of course we think we have. I doubt everyone would agree.

Straw man and slippery slope fallacy.

There's a huge difference between Christianity rejecting homosexuality in the church and advocating legislation that incarcerates or kills those who indulge in it.

People claimed that in the 80's when we told them it would eventually lead to gay marriage. Not a straw man after all. We even had a man get the woman of the year last year.

Uganda government is made up of men and not children who can make their own decisions. So far I have seen no evidence that Scott was anything more than just a preacher with no political power who encourage others to stand against homosexuality.

Watch the documentary God Loves Uganda on Netflix and you'll see how influential white American evangelicals like him are in Uganda. I've been to Uganda, and between the civil war that lasted 20+ years and the AIDS epidemic, 48% of the entire country is under 15 years old. Nearly half of the population in an entire country are children. That means a staggering portion of that country is very impressionable.
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It's was true in Apostle Paul day and it's still true today. Where the gospel goes evil will follow. This is why we send miniseries and build Bible schools and churches in foreign countries.

 

[Smidlee]

hmmm...so defending Islam is bad but persecuting gay people is good? was that the gist of your position?
tulc(trying to understand whats being said here)

You do know that Islamic country persecute gays right?
So anyone who takes a stand against homosexuality is guilty of persecuting gay people?

 

[Smidlee]

Which shows what an abhorrent monster he is. I hope he gets locked up in a very special prison.

And don't forget as the good doctor Ben Carson says: if he goes to prison he will come out gay (because that is how it works).

How ironic.

You think that statement makes him a monster? Anyone who take a stand against homosexuality is a monster in your eyes?

 

[The Cadet]

You think that statement makes him a monster? Anyone who take a stand against homosexuality is a monster in your eyes?

If you think homosexuals deserved to be killed, imprisoned, or punished in similar ways, then yes, you are a monster. If you think that and proceed to lie about them, blaming them for the Nazis and the Rwandan genocide with the explicit goal of achieving those things, you are not just a monster, you are a monster who is inciting violence and should be put on trial.

 

[Smidlee]

If you think homosexuals deserved to be killed, imprisoned, or punished in similar ways, then yes, you are a monster. If you think that and proceed to lie about them, blaming them for the Nazis and the Rwandan genocide with the explicit goal of achieving those things, you are not just a monster, you are a monster who is inciting violence and should be put on trial.

Let me repeat the statement one more time.
"From the article "Though he says that he doesn’t believe in homosexuals being incarcerated, he has, on many occasions, equated homosexuality to pedophilia and inappropriate behavior with animals."
Uganda was been known to be violent for years. It's the same with the Roman Empire that was violent long before it joined up with Christianity yet people want to blame Christianity for it's violence.

 

[The Cadet]

"From the article "Though he says that he doesn’t believe in homosexuals being incarcerated, he has, on many occasions, equated homosexuality to pedophilia and inappropriate behavior with animals."

And given his established influence on the laws in Uganda, I frankly do not believe him.

 

[Smidlee]

And given his established influence on the laws in Uganda, I frankly do not believe him.

What about his influence in Russia?

"He describes Russia as a “model for the rest of the world” and takes personal credit for recommending the propaganda laws “to protect the society from being ‘homosexualized.'"

He pointed to Russia and not Uganda as the model for the rest of the world.

 

[Laury]

Do we have any actual evidence for the things he's being put to trial for?
It does seem like that's the problem here, at least.

 

[dzheremi]

It's a bit weird to see the Western world or at least some organizations in it treat adult Ugandan legislators like they're children who can't be held responsible for their own laws, especially when the law is really not very different than what's on the books in other African nations (e.g., Sudan, Mauritania, Gambia, etc.) that don't get such bad publicity for them, and when there are other laws on the books in other nations that similarly make living according to something that offends the majority a capital offense (e.g., laws criminalizing conversion to Christianity from Islam in Egypt), the same people calling Uganda a hateful trash country often say "it's their law! It's their society! It's their country!" Coptic and other Egyptian human rights organizations in the diaspora have for years been trying to get the US aid given to Egypt tied to an improvement in human rights and a change in the laws negatively affecting religious minorities like the Copts, Baha'is and others (e.g., the 1981 amendment to the constitution placing Islamic Sharia as the supreme and inviolable source of law in the country), but that's a political hot potato that nobody in the West will touch. What a bunch of damn hypocrites we are.

That said, I really don't think that living in a way that offends the majority ought to be illegal in the first place, obviously. Did gays cause genocide? No. Do gays cause earthquakes? No. Do gays cause other people to become gay? No. Yet these are all things believed by people of various religious faiths (not just Christianity), and even no religious faith (socialist Albania, famous as the world's first "officially atheist" country, mandated up to 10 years in prison for the crime of being homosexual, according to article 137 of the Crimes against Societal Morals section of the Penal Code, which was not done away with officially until 1995, long after the country had stopped being socialist). What is a law going to do to change these people's minds about this stuff? Not much, whether it is positive or negative towards the people they already believe these myths about. Those who think that gays are the downfall of all society will continue to think so, same as they do in the West -- and those who think that homosexuality is to be promoted as societal good in the name of equality and love and such will continue to think so, too. We are really not that different than Uganda, even though our laws are trending in the opposite direction over the past 15 years or so (speaking from an American perspective; I know Europe has been much more open to this stuff for years).

 

[Armoured]

What about his influence in Russia?

"He describes Russia as a “model for the rest of the world” and takes personal credit for recommending the propaganda laws “to protect the society from being ‘homosexualized.'"

He pointed to Russia and not Uganda as the model for the rest of the world.

So what? The issue is what he did in Uganda, not Russia.

 

[myownmynativeland]

Pure unConstitutional criminality by corrupt Fed judges. The Pastor is a hero.

 

[Deviant Writer]

And?

There is no "and" to that statement.

 

[The Cadet]

Pure unConstitutional criminality by corrupt Fed judges. The Pastor is a hero.

So lying about a connection between homosexuals and nazis in order to further genocide makes you a hero?

Hey Christians, anyone here wanna, y'know, distance yourself from the dangerous radicals? After all, the Muslims get that request pretty often.

 

[Smidlee]

So what? The issue is what he did in Uganda, not Russia.

And what did he do? He preached against homosexuality just as he did in Russia. Uganda was violent before he preached to them.

 

[Smidlee]

So lying about a connection between homosexuals and nazis in order to further genocide makes you a hero?

Hey Christians, anyone here wanna, y'know, distance yourself from the dangerous radicals? After all, the Muslims get that request pretty often.

Obama and Bush both lied about the connection between Islam and Jihad.
I don't support his quest of trying to influence foreign governments yet I haven't read anything that makes him a radical.

 

[JustOneWay]

Obama and Bush both lied about the connection between Islam and Jihad.

No they didn't.

Nice red herring