"American Idiot"

[christianrock1]

Do you even know what you are talking about here?
It's hardly a "rock opera"

I would suggest you check out the Who's "Tommy" if you want to talk about Rock opera's.....

Check out HERO! as well

 

[TheDandyMan]

he looks like an american idiot?? i thought he looked more like someone being succesful at what he loves. but that's just me.

Billy Joe Armstrong tried to be as offensive as he could on that record. He wanted the controversy that inevitably ensued from that release. It seems a bit idiotic to me, making people angry because you can whilst proclaiming that you detest the shallowness of popular American culture (of which green day is at the forefront of).

Anyhow, I don't like them because, as a previous poster said, the songs are almost numblingly basic.

 

[christianrock1]

Billy Joe Armstrong tried to be as offensive as he could on that record. He wanted the controversy that inevitably ensued from that release. It seems a bit idiotic to me, making people angry because you can whilst proclaiming that you detest the shallowness of popular American culture (of which green day is at the forefront of).

Anyhow, I don't like them because, as a previous poster said, the songs are almost numblingly basic.

It's far from basic, serioulsy-it's an amazing album. The songs are so full of passion,I can identify with it so much.
Billy Joe Armstong is awsome.

 

[Triggy]

A pity my brain issues positive reactions when I listen to it, hmmm?

Welll... okay, so a lot of you dislike. That's cool I guess, but what really gets to me is how many of you said they are to "pop culture-ey." I have to strongly disagree with this. The fact that they scored so high on the charts... there's a reason for it. It's not because people are stupid and zombified by famous people, nor is it because the album was offensive, something some people consider funny. Greenday is succesful because they make good music... simple as that. It doesn't matter if you personally don't like it, a good number of people, including myself did. You're free to listen to what you want, but if music you don't like makes it big, it doesn't make it bad.

As for the messages in their songs... well, I can understand how most of you don;t like the cursing etc. I personally don't mind it. To me they are just words, nothing more. Sticks and stones my friends... sticks and stones. One person mentioned that they would not be singing about Jesus in a positive way. Well... you're right. In fact, they are not singing about Jesus at all. The "Jesus of Suburbia" is more of an idea, of what it means to grow up in today's world.

Maybe some of you just don't like the message. That's fine. I do though. Greenday's lyrics and playing style just touch me in a way I can't well describe... and (I mean NO offense by this) I don't think most of this forums visitors would understand if I could....

You might also say it is not a good rock opera. Maybe you're right. But I can sure as sugar say it had a good story. Piece the lyrics together and you get one whole awsome story.

I could write a lot more... but I'm not gonna =)

 

[canehdianhotstuff]

chord progression kinda repeats, i dont have the album...

 

[woohoo]

I simply fail to understand why so many people like greenday, leave alone why they got a grammy. But then again, what's a grammy? hehehe

 

[christianrock1]

I simply fail to understand why so many people like greenday, leave alone why they got a grammy. But then again, what's a grammy? hehehe

You simply fail to have good taste in music,that's all.
Grammys are like the Canadian Juno Awards.FYi..

 

[Chajara]

I don't like Greenday because they play that awful "time of your life" song all the time and every time I hear that guy's nails on a chalkboard voice I want to pull a murder-suicide. But then, I've never liked that sort of music anyhow.

 

[The Shasta]

Green Day is not punk. They're a make-up band that plays 40 dollar soldout-stadium shows. Face facts.

They used to be cool(bad musicians, though) back in the day.

If you're dropdead obsessed with Green Day and Good Charlotte and Simple Plan and the like, that's super. Just, please-

A. Don't talk about it. Much less rant and rant and rant about it.

And B. Don't act like you know good music.

I may not be some great musician, but I know what I'm talking about.

 

[Pnkr4Christ]

Yeah, I mean, winning a Grammy doesn't make an album good or anything.

Personally I suggest everyone be like me, rip all of their music to your 'puter and make a "Best Of" playlist like I did.

Listening to the other rock bands these days, it's not that hard.

 

[HolyPlace]

Green Day is not punk. They're a make-up band that plays 40 dollar soldout-stadium shows. Face facts.

Your right on this one..there not punk there alternative rock. A make -up band? How do you mean? And those 40 dollar sold out shows must be good b/c ...THERE SOLDOUT. If you need a definetion..it means ..no more seats. I've been to a couple concerts...counrty ..christain..soft rock..and green day. And i can honeslty say..Green Day can entertain.

They used to be cool(bad musicians, though) back in the day.

So you thought they were cool? And back in the day..how far in back in the day...b/c they've been play for about 15 years now...And there stilling getting number ones... And about the bad musicians thing...they no how to play ther instruments well...you have to admite that..b/c they do play them.

If you're dropdead obsessed with Green Day and Good Charlotte and Simple Plan and the like, that's super. Just, please-

A. Don't talk about it. Much less rant and rant and rant about it.

And B. Don't act like you know good music.

Theres one great hting about all the muisc out there...YOU can listen to watever YOU want....people who like Green Day and Good Charlotte and Simple Plan..those people can listen to want THEY want. I love alll the bands listed above. And I know good music, I listen to Christain rock, country, softrock, about anything thats got a beat. So next time you want to bring down the people who listen to that type of muisc...maybe you should listen a a little harder to wat you like. And you act so confident in the words you say at the end

I may not be some great musician, but I know what I'm talking about.

You think you know...

 

[rudo]

l lOVE greenday and their music

 

[invisible trousers]

Stupid. Musicians and politics never go together well.

Besides, Dookie was so much more fun.

 

[TheDandyMan]

I have to strongly disagree with this. The fact that they scored so high on the charts... there's a reason for it.

Yes, of course there is. Let's examine switchfoot. Why are all the fans who've been around since New Way to be Human all angry? Because switchfoot has acheived astounding fame, and, with that, most loyal switchfoot people believe that switchfoot's music has taken a drastic turn for the worse, that it's become very plastic-like overall.

It's not because people are stupid and zombified by famous people, nor is it because the album was offensive, something some people consider funny.

Think about how popular green day would be if they song about loving God, for example. Do you see folks like mxpx racking up Grammy's? No. Of course they're huge. Green day is almost oozing with rebellion.

To me they are just words, nothing more. Sticks and stones my friends... sticks and stones.

If words really were "sticks and stones," a useless thing that shouldn't be payed attention to, then how much would a compliment mean? Nothing. I know I can't deny that I get those warm fuzzies when somebody gives me a compliment. I don't treat those words as sticks and stones. I don't treat the words in the Bible as useless, either.

Maybe some of you just don't like the message. That's fine. I do though. Greenday's lyrics and playing style just touch me in a way I can't well describe... and (I mean NO offense by this) I don't think most of this forums visitors would understand if I could....

I do like how green day comes right off the bat in American Idiot and proclaims how they detest...well, American Idiots, because people around my neck of the woods are intensely stereotypical to races of all sorts, and, as America continues to distance itself consuming-wise, it's no wonder there are so many people out there who detest America.

However, I think that there's some great irony that, in being as offensive as they could, Green Day showed themselves off as being American Idiots by not exercising, but rather abusing their freedom of speech.

And about the bad musicians thing...they no how to play ther instruments well...you have to admite that..b/c they do play them.

It's good that they're not out there pulling Ashlee Simpson's every night, but, as people before have said, music-wise, their songs are astoundingly simple and basic.

And I know good music, I listen to Christain rock, country, softrock, about anything thats got a beat.

Neat. It's always cool to see somebody my age who enjoys trance (or maybe you like house and it's various forms, or maybe you just like a more Euro flavor, I don't know myself). On the fusion side, I'm currently into Miles Davis and Weather Report, because they both had a lot of interesting percussionists in their time.

 

[HolyPlace]

Miles Davis is alsome...Jazz...

 

[The Shasta]

And I know good music, I listen to Christain rock, country, softrock, about anything thats got a beat.QUOTE]

...oi...

Christian Rock - ...who? Hardcore-Christian is alright, but........WHO? Toby Mac? No. "Skillet"? No way. Reliant K? Blech. The only good Christian material out there would probably be...well...listen to Kathy Mattea's Christmas Collage. Ever last song in there is a masterpiece. Gregorian chants are interesting as well. But Christian rock? Please.

Country - James Taylor...but he's more folk than country, anyway. So nobody. It's all the same. All of it. Imagine a genre where they all have 3 different choices of beats but the lyrics vary. And there you have country.

Soft Rock - I could think of many. Soft rock is indeed good stuff.

Anything that has a beat - Sure beats country.

Purposely writing a song that is a horridly overused cliche (not to mention one to lament) is like spitting on music theory's face. There are far too many very poor musicians out there and far too many people who listen to music but do not understand the concepts and beauty of music.

I am horrible at math. Manual jobs are a challenge because I have a serious problem with attention. I get bad grades, but if whichever higher power gave me a gift, the gift that really shines is music. I truly devote myself to the amazing glory of it, I cherish it as if it were apart of me and I have since I could comprehend anything as a child. I've taken plenty of lessons music-related from plenty of people who also love music. Instrumental, vocal, composition, conducting, theory....you name it, I know it.

And I'm not some kid who loves all this metal and rock and etc. I love music. Dearly. Name any genre and I could name you plenty of artists and albums and songs and what makes them unique. Many people say music is their life when it really plays a small roll but I can assure you, music is my life.

And that is why I know what I'm talking about, HolyPlace.

 

[Mae Band]

Green Day Sucks, I wish they wouldnt of made another album. If they wouldnt of made american idiot, they would of had a good run too look back on but now they are looked on as a band that sucks.

 

[christianrock1]

And I know good music, I listen to Christain rock, country, softrock, about anything thats got a beat.QUOTE]
Christian Rock - ...who? Hardcore-Christian is alright, but........WHO? Toby Mac? No. "Skillet"? No way. Reliant K? Blech. The only good Christian material out there would probably be...well...listen to Kathy Mattea's Christmas Collage. Ever last song in there is a masterpiece. Gregorian chants are interesting as well. But Christian rock? Please.

Country - James Taylor...but he's more folk than country, anyway. So nobody. It's all the same. All of it. Imagine a genre where they all have 3 different choices of beats but the lyrics vary. And there you have country.

Dude, country music is just,disgusting. Christian rock is all right(despite my screen name).Emo is awesome though. Underoath,Dead Poetic,Further Seems Forever,Showbread- there's some wicked awesome bands. What's wrong with Skillet? I get hating Relient K and tobyMac-but Skillet is an awesome band.

 

[HolyPlace]

There are far too many very poor musicians out there and far too many people who listen to music but do not understand the concepts and beauty of music.

The concepts of music ...ahh were to began..Music (in my opion) in a form of art. It is a way people express there selfs...and as shown in American Idoit..they give there opions.

I am horrible at math. Manual jobs are a challenge because I have a serious problem with attention. I get bad grades, but if whichever higher power gave me a gift, the gift that really shines is music. I truly devote myself to the amazing glory of it, I cherish it as if it were apart of me and I have since I could comprehend anything as a child. I've taken plenty of lessons music-related from plenty of people who also love music. Instrumental, vocal, composition, conducting, theory....you name it, I know it.

Its great that you take lso many different kinds of music lessons ..But the great thing is so do I. I've taken 7 years Panio, 3 years of band.a couple voice lessons...and i'm getting into gutiar. People like you are wat make the music industry..if thats wat you want then i hope you follow it.

And I'm not some kid who loves all this metal and rock and etc. I love music. Dearly. Name any genre and I could name you plenty of artists and albums and songs and what makes them unique. Many people say music is their life when it really plays a small roll but I can assure you, music is my life.

And that is why I know what I'm talking about, HolyPlace.

But there are other people out there that feel the same way..Green Day has been playing for 15 years..Thats a long time..and people in our world like them..thats why there good..even if they had no vocals wat so ever and they couldn't play a inturment ( i think thats wat you think of them) they would still be on top..b/c the world likes them..but YOU don't have to. One of my great friends really wants to get into the music indusrty..she takes music lessons..gutair lessons..and theroy. That wat she wants..And bands like Green Day..that are more punk..and are alternative Rock..they insipered her. Her fav band in Good Charlotte. But she loves music...she respect its all...And so do I ..do you?

 

[christianrock1]

Her fav band in Good Charlotte

Good Charlotte = poser band