Am I a Sociopath? If so, what can I do?

[Bluelion]

I know what he has saying because I had a conversation with him. I have met a lot of Calvinists, who though I disagree with on predestination, they generally have a view that you if you are concerned about salvation and believe then you are probably predestined. They don't let anything hold you from coming to Jesus. What he has said is that even if you are worried, there is nothing you can do but wait until regeneration happens. I have found nowhere in the Bible where someone is kept from being saved because they weren't elected, rather they are encouraged to believe.

Secondly, before you can love God with all your heart, you have to experience his grace. Love isn't just something you can decide to have. I don't get how you can claim salvation is all by grace but then state that you must be willing to surrender your life to God. That just sounds like every other religion in the world that talks about you having to a work to be saved. How can you experience God's grace if you are constantly focusing on what you do? For me it is either one or the other, either I just believe and am saved, or it is nothing but works with a different name. There is no middle ground.

And really, is any Christian truly loving God with all there hearts, mind, and soul, AND their neighbor as them self every second of every day? Because if not, they are sinning. We like to have this view of ourselves that we only sin on rare occasions after we are Christians, but the fact of the matter is that we sin so much even after being saved we cannot comprehend it.

End of my emotional rant.

First off something is wrong because you are not understanding the truth. You do have to surrender your self to God. God wants all of you. Now I did not speak of works. But God said faith with out works in dead, read James. He said The Holy Spirit brings forth works from us, again Jesus sermon on I am the True Vine. He says everyone in Him produces fruit, not by a persons own means but because the Tree(Jesus), brings forth fruit from us the branches.

God does not require we do anything ourselves but give completely are self. What that looks like is complete dependence on God. Now you might not understand that. What that looks like is the person can not go a day with out connecting to God is some way. That is required of us, they God produces works from us. God calls it forth not us, and we do not earn anything, but we are willing to be used by God, That what the surrender is, you wish to do His will above your own.

Now we all sin, anyone who says they do not sin is a liar, but we have forgiveness.

The grace that brought us to Love God was Jesus giving His life paying our debt for sins, when a person realizes this they break down and cry, that is the Love. You Love God from the second you are saved that is what getting saved is. It is not saying Jesus is the Son of God, demons say this same things yet will never be saved. It is surrender and love of God. Then you pass from death to life.

 

[Legionwrex]

First off something is wrong because you are not understanding the truth. You do have to surrender your self to God. God wants all of you. Now I did not speak of works. But God said faith with out works in dead, read James. He said The Holy Spirit brings forth works from us, again Jesus sermon on I am the True Vine. He says everyone in Him produces fruit, not by a persons own means but because the Tree(Jesus), brings forth fruit from us the branches.

God does not require we do anything ourselves but give completely are self. What that looks like is complete dependence on God. Now you might not understand that. What that looks like is the person can not go a day with out connecting to God is some way. That is required of us, they God produces works from us. God calls it forth not us, and we do not earn anything, but we are willing to be used by God, That what the surrender is, you wish to do His will above your own.

Now we all sin, anyone who says they do not sin is a liar, but we have forgiveness.

The grace that brought us to Love God was Jesus giving His life paying our debt for sins, when a person realizes this they break down and cry, that is the Love. You Love God from the second you are saved that is what getting saved is. It is not saying Jesus is the Son of God, demons say this same things yet will never be saved. It is surrender and love of God. Then you pass from death to life.

No, I perfectly understand what you believe, and I disagree. And I really wish people would stop telling me to read certain books or verses as if I'm some ignorant buffoon on the Bible who has no idea what he is talking about. I'm a 15 year old who is being raised in a very Christian household, so I know my stuff.

Yes, James does say that, but he's talking about the evidence of your Faith, or sanctification, which is the life long process in which the believer is made more Christ-like, different from Justification, which is when the believer is legally declared not guilty by Faith alone. Confusing Justification with Sanctification is a very big and common mistake Christians tend to make.

Surrendering your life to God is again, a work, as it requires you to actively do something to be saved, apart from being justified by trust in Christ's death.

Again, the love of God is something that grows greater inside of you as you walk with Christ, it isn't something you can expect perfectly from every new Christian. Which leads me to a second common mistake I believe you are making.

You are taking your personal conversion and applying it as a catch all to all Christians. Maybe you instantly had a massive emotional experience and a massive love for God, that's great, but that's just your experience.

Due to the fact that every human is different, so is every conversion. For example, person 1 might be a drug addicted gangster who becomes saved and it is extremely obvious due to the 180 in their life. Then you have person 2 who is what might be considered by human standards to be a "good person", they give to charity, help the homeless, etc. Now they are converted, but the differences in their life is much more subtle due to already
being, for lack of a better word, a more "well-rounded" person. So each person must be judged on their own standards.

Salvation is a very special event and I don't think you can confine it into one exact system for every human alive.

 

[Bluelion]

No, I perfectly understand what you believe, and I disagree. And I really wish people would stop telling me to read certain books or verses as if I'm some ignorant buffoon on the Bible who has no idea what he is talking about. I'm a 15 year old who is being raised in a very Christian household, so I know my stuff.

Yes, James does say that, but he's talking about the evidence of your Faith, or sanctification, which is the life long process in which the believer is made more Christ-like, different from Justification, which is when the believer is legally declared not guilty by Faith alone. Confusing Justification with Sanctification is a very big and common mistake Christians tend to make.

Surrendering your life to God is again, a work, as it requires you to actively do something to be saved, apart from being justified by trust in Christ's death.

Again, the love of God is something that grows greater inside of you as you walk with Christ, it isn't something you can expect perfectly from every new Christian. Which leads me to a second common mistake I believe you are making.

You are taking your personal conversion and applying it as a catch all to all Christians. Maybe you instantly had a massive emotional experience and a massive love for God, that's great, but that's just your experience.

Due to the fact that every human is different, so is every conversion. For example, person 1 might be a drug addicted gangster who becomes saved and it is extremely obvious due to the 180 in their life. Then you have person 2 who is what might be considered by human standards to be a "good person", they give to charity, help the homeless, etc. Now they are converted, but the differences in their life is much more subtle due to already
being, for lack of a better word, a more "well-rounded" person. So each person must be judged on their own standards.

Salvation is a very special event and I don't think you can confine it into one exact system for every human alive.

Actually I am not applying my personal experience. I never said a person had great love for God from the start, what I said was the moment a person is saved they have love for God, Yes it increases.

I see you are offended by people telling you to read the Bible, they are leading you to God to find the answers, nothing wrong with that. You need to check your pride at the door. Your issues like my son is you are young, and you have that thinking. So quick to tell others and slow to listen to what is being said.

3rd i realize you think these are my "beliefs" They are Biblical fact. So object all you want does not change the truth.

I said God brings forth works from a person that every person saved has works. How is that untrue show me in the Bible.

 

[Legionwrex]

Actually I am not applying my personal experience. I never said a person had great love for God from the start, what I said was the moment a person is saved they have love for God, Yes it increases.

I see you are offended by people telling you to read the Bible, they are leading you to God to find the answers, nothing wrong with that. You need to check your pride at the door. Your issues like my son is you are young, and you have that thinking. So quick to tell others and slow to listen to what is being said.

3rd i realize you think these are my "beliefs" They are Biblical fact. So object all you want does not change the truth.

I said God brings forth works from a person that every person saved has works. How is that untrue show me in the Bible.

I'm not offended. It's annoying because they are things I already know. As to pride, I believe starting this Forum openly admitting that I think I'm a sociopath is the exact opposite of what I Prideful person would do. I'm not annoyed because you're hurting my ego, I'm annoyed because I feel like people are trying to spoon feed me info and it's unnecessary.

From what I have seen, you have been unable to prove that they are Biblical fact, period. I never said it was untrue, I just said it was part of Sanctification, which happens after salvation, and is different from Justification, which happens when one trusts in Jesus's death and Resurrection for salvation.

 

[Bluelion]

I'm not offended. It's annoying because they are things I already know. As to pride, I believe starting this Forum openly admitting that I think I'm a sociopath is the exact opposite of what I Prideful person would do. I'm not annoyed because you're hurting my ego, I'm annoyed because I feel like people are trying to spoon feed me info and it's unnecessary.

From what I have seen, you have been unable to prove that they are Biblical fact, period. I never said it was untrue, I just said it was part of Sanctification, which happens after salvation, and is different from Justification, which happens when one trusts in Jesus's death and Resurrection for salvation.

Just because the OP might not have been prideful does not mean your post are not pride full by default you, the post I was referring to yes you showed your pride, I know a great deal about pride struggle with it my self.

Yeah I know a bit of theology too taking it in college right now. I am a biblical studies and theology major.

I gave you the bible verses that said it that proves it, wonder why people are throwing Bible verses at you, Because we are to test any one who comes in the name of the Lord against The Word Of God. They are in fact saying look test me and see if This is not the Truth of God. That is another reason they are throwing out Bible verses at you.

Fact is atheist say prove to me, I am not going to prove anything to you. I showed you where you can find it and you need to look and ask God for wisdom. You are continually showing arrogance and pride both of which God works against. I would watch my self if I were you. Haughtiness before a great fall proverbs.

 

[Legionwrex]

Just because the OP might not have been prideful does not mean your post are not pride full by default you, the post I was referring to yes you showed your pride, I know a great deal about pride struggle with it my self.

Yeah I know a bit of theology too taking it in college right now. I am a biblical studies and theology major.

I gave you the bible verses that said it that proves it, wonder why people are throwing Bible verses at you, Because we are to test any one who comes in the name of the Lord against The Word Of God. They are in fact saying look test me and see if This is not the Truth of God. That is another reason they are throwing out Bible verses at you.

Fact is atheist say prove to me, I am not going to prove anything to you. I showed you where you can find it and you need to look and ask God for wisdom. You are continually showing arrogance and pride both of which God works against. I would watch my self if I were you. Haughtiness before a great fall proverbs.

How am I showing Pride? You haven't demonstrated anything Biblical in your arguments, the closest you came was quoting James, which I both agreed with and then put in context. If I had said "No, James is wrong and I'm right", that would have been both prideful and sinful, but that's not what I did.

Again, no one here is actually refuting anything I say with these Bible verses, nor do I think that was even their attempt, it is more like they are quoting them because they think I don't know of them. I'm saying I already do, so it's unnecessary. See the difference? I'm not ignoring or disagreeing the verses, that would be prideful, I am just saying I already know of them and understand them.

So now we have demonstrated that I am not disagreeing with the Bible, I am disagreeing with you. If the very act of disagreeing with you makes me prideful, I could say the same for you and say that you are prideful for not agreeing with me.

Finally, I too have experience with Theology. My parents were very good friends of the Late Lutheran theologian Bob Passantino and Walter Martin and were Theologians/Apologists themselves, so I have experience with these matters.

 

[Bluelion]

How am I showing Pride? You haven't demonstrated anything Biblical in your arguments, the closest you came was quoting James, which I both agreed with and then put in context. If I had said "No, James is wrong and I'm right", that would have been both prideful and sinful, but that's not what I did.

Again, no one here is actually refuting anything I say with these Bible verses, nor do I think that was even their attempt, it is more like they are quoting them because they think I don't know of them. I'm saying I already do, so it's unnecessary. See the difference? I'm not ignoring or disagreeing the verses, that would be prideful, I am just saying I already know of them and understand them.

So now we have demonstrated that I am not disagreeing with the Bible, I am disagreeing with you. If the very act of disagreeing with you makes me prideful, I could say the same for you and say that you are prideful for not agreeing with me.

Finally, I too have experience with Theology. My parents were very good friends of the Late Lutheran theologian Bob Passantino and Walter Martin and were Theologians/Apologists themselves, so I have experience with these matters.

Yeah your parents education does not translate to you having that same education. That is pirdeful.

Also not all I said was James but I spoke of Jesus sermon of The True vine, so you are lying now also.

I think you are a bit to immature to really have this conversation with so Good day. don't say you were not warned about pride though.

 

[Legionwrex]

Yeah your parents education does not translate to you having that same education. That is pirdeful.

Also not all I said was James but I spoke of Jesus sermon of The True vine, so you are lying now also.

I think you are a bit to immature to really have this conversation with so Good day. don't say you were not warned about pride though.

For starters, I wasn't intentionally lying, I forgot that you mentioned that as my answer to James was the same to that as well. So there is your response.

My parents have taught me much about theology. I'm not claiming to know more than you do about theology or have better "training", but I'd like to think that I certainly know more about these subjects than others my age.

If you think that, go ahead. Yes, I have struggled with pride in the past, and I still struggle with it today, however I say with confidence that I don't think this was one of those times.