Am I a Sociopath? If so, what can I do?

[Willie T]

Hope is what's stopping me. If I can be saved then I don't want even more on my record. But if I was literally created to go to hell then why not fully embrace it? I mean it's not like someone can say to me that my character is at stake, sense I never really had any to begin with. All I would be doing was fulfilling what I was created to do, am I not wrong?

This kind of means you, then, have to quit fluttering around, sit down, do some serious considering, and decide on some things you either do, or do not believe. Right?

 

[Legionwrex]

I mean, if I was going to Hell because of my sin and God chose to not help me, that's my fault. I have no one to blame but myself and I have reaped what I sowed. If however I was literally created for that purpose without a free will, it would just give me a good reason to hate God and pass the blame from myself to him. Which would admittedly make the situation better having someone else to be mad at other than myself.

Currently though I find myself hating me. I should be able to have all of these emotions and Godly Sorrow, but I literally can't. I don't know how else to describe it other than my mind fighting against my own will, which I'm sure sounds strange. I feel like I'm a slave to my own will.

 

[Legionwrex]

This kind of means you, then, have to quit fluttering around, sit down, do some serious considering, and decide on some things you either do, or do not believe. Right?

I apologize for dragging this off into a free will vs fate type thing. Anyways, what do you mean I have to decide what I believe? I'm just saying the logical conclusion of what someone is telling me. Frankly I wouldn't even mind it that much if it didn't look like I got the short end of the stick on the whole predestination deal.

 

[bobbarry]

How much do you want to be free??

 

[Willie T]

I mean, if I was going to Hell because of my sin and God chose to not help me, that's my fault. I have no one to blame but myself and I have reaped what I sowed. If however I was literally created for that purpose without a free will, it would just give me a good reason to hate God and pass the blame from myself to him. Which would admittedly make the situation better having someone else to be mad at other than myself.

Currently though I find myself hating me. I should be able to have all of these emotions and Godly Sorrow, but I literally can't. I don't know how else to describe it other than my mind fighting against my own will, which I'm sure sounds strange. I feel like I'm a slave to my own will.

Your last few lines here make me smile.

Got a Bible? Check out how Paul said just about the same thing about himself in Romans 7: verses 24-25 (or somewhere right in that area.)

 

[Legionwrex]

How much do you want to be free??

More than anything in the universe if it will save my soul. However it's not a matter of want, it's a matter of can't. I can want to fly all I want, I still can't.

 

[Willie T]

Of course you can't.... Go check out Romans 7.

 

[bobbarry]

God's people are destroyed by a lack of knowledge...you cant but he can , you just need the right knowledge...and the right attitude...i m sure someone once said all things are possible with God.

 

[Legionwrex]

Your last few lines here make me smile.

Got a Bible? Check out how Paul said just about the same thing about himself in Romans 7: verses 24-25 (or somewhere right in that area.)

I know the verse. The difference is Paul didn't really want to, he just gave into temptation. My will on the other hand does want to, yet at the same time my mind also doesn't want to. Or a guess a better way of describing it is it's my will for my will not to want it, if that makes sense.

Even still I do it for selfish motives. Paul was sad at hurting Jesus. I'm just worried about saving my own skin. Even in sinning Paul is still more Godly than me, as at least his motives aren't as corrupt.

 

[Willie T]

I apologize for dragging this off into a free will vs fate type thing. Anyways, what do you mean I have to decide what I believe? I'm just saying the logical conclusion of what someone is telling me. Frankly I wouldn't even mind it that much if it didn't look like I got the short end of the stick on the whole predestination deal.

Every time you come up with one of these things you want to add to the "worry pot", and stir around some.... decide if it is something that is true or false in your estimation, and get it down solid in your thinking how you feel about it. Then store it away as something you have settled and no longer have to putz with.

Try looking up a cognitive thinking system called REBT, and take a few minutes to learn how to use it.

 

[Willie T]

I know the verse. The difference is Paul didn't really want to, he just gave into temptation. My will on the other hand does want to, yet at the same time my mind also doesn't want to. Or a guess a better way of describing it is it's my will for my will not to want it, if that makes sense.

Even still I do it for selfish motives. Paul was sad at hurting Jesus. I'm just worried about saving my own skin. Even in sinning Paul is still more Godly than me, as at least his motives aren't as corrupt.

Sounds pretty much like you actually DON'T really know the verses like you think you do.

 

[Legionwrex]

Sounds pretty much like you actually DON'T really know the verses like you think you do.

Okay, than please explain them to me.

 

[Willie T]

Print out what you said about your thinking.... hold the piece of paper in one hand, and go to the verses with her other hand, and compare them.

You'll be able to figure it out for yourself.

 

[Legionwrex]

Every time you come up with one of these things you want to add to the "worry pot", and stir around some.... decide if it is something that is true or false in your estimation, and get it down solid in your thinking how you feel about it. Then store it away as something you have settled and no longer have to putz with.

Try looking up a cognitive thinking system called REBT, and take a few minutes to learn how to use it.

I don't trust my own estimation. That's why I'm asking the question. Frankly the only one I really could trust is God, but as I previously said, he's not answering me. Sometimes I wish I was alive when Jesus was on this earth so I could ask him directly, it would make everything much easier.

 

[bobbarry]

When you've had enough of doing what you've always done, to get what you've always got...and your truely serious...i ll give you your answer. But dont come until your totally willing to listen without trying to teach...

 

[Legionwrex]

When you've had enough of doing what you've always done, to get what you've always got...and your truely serious...i ll give you your answer. But dont come until your totally willing to listen without trying to teach...

What? I'm not trying to teach you anything. If you have something to say, please do. I wouldn't have created this forum otherwise.

 

[spr]

Man, calm down. There is nothing wrong with you that isn't wrong with everyone else in the world. In fact, there is probably more right with you than most anyone else in the world because you get that you need a savior dearly. A lot of people don't get that.

Jesus paid for you, and if you will accept that you can have some peace. There is a slow process called sanctification that is going to go on in you once you accept that your debt is paid in full due to no 'works' on your part.

So quit feeling sorry for not feeling bad enough about being bad because there is no measure of bad that the blood of Christ can't wash white as snow. Be glad, your debt is paid and the son of God receives you, and everyone else who comes to him broken and in shame.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

reply to post 20 --- (a lot posted between reading it and posting)
"Hope is what's stopping me. If I can be saved then I don't want even more on my record. But if I was literally created to go to hell then why not fully embrace it? I mean it's not like someone can say to me that my character is at stake, sense I never really had any to begin with. All I would be doing was fulfilling what I was created to do, am I not wrong?"

yes, you're wrong. (if i read your post right).

Jesus Christ knew your name before the creation of the world, and while you were still a sinner(with everyone else) , HE DIED FOR YOU.

Now, if you will call on Him (a lifetime of calling and totally trusting and obeying Him)
you will not be disappointed. Yhwh never, ever, not once, disappointed anyone who called on Him in truth, to be restored to Him and to live the Way He Wants you to (i.e. DO what HE SAYS).

Jesus didn't just DIE FOR YOU, but HE WAS RAISED FROM THE GRAVE to everlasting LIFE also - so we can also hope in the resurrection from the dead, all according to God's Wonderful Plan and Purpose.

pm me if any questions.... i'll answer simply , if i can, Yhwh willing.

 

[98cwitr]

If my fate's already decided why should I do anything? Nothing I do really matters anyway. Frankly if God created me like this just to send me to hell then I believe that really takes a strike at the core character of God, and I might as well do whatever I please since I'm going to hell anyways.

Read Ecclesiastes 1. If you point the blame at God, you should then read Romans 9.

If you're so convinced that you're hell bound, there's a reason for that. That doesn't mean that you are already condemned, but it doesn't mean you aren't. It just means you don't know.

 

[98cwitr]

I apologize for dragging this off into a free will vs fate type thing. Anyways, what do you mean I have to decide what I believe? I'm just saying the logical conclusion of what someone is telling me. Frankly I wouldn't even mind it that much if it didn't look like I got the short end of the stick on the whole predestination deal.

that way my fault...sorry for the derailment