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Am I a non-christian?

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I think she also needs to understand that everyone one of us has problems. None of us are above one another. We all fall short of the glory of god.
Were all equally sinners.

dude your are VERY VERY wise...you need to be a preacher, you put things so well!!!!:amen: :hug:
 
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Marmaladegirl22 said:
I'm very clueless right now, I'm told I'm not a true christian for my beliefs.
here they are

1. I don't believe the bible is 100%
2. I don't believe in the rapture.
3. I believe in Jesus and GOD
4. I believe in ghost
5. I believe in recarntion
6. I don't believe in condeming people
7. I don't believe anyone goes to hell but the truly wicked
8. I believe the only sin is hurting others or yourself
9. I believe animals have souls.
10. I'm starting to prefer girls over boys(and people think I'm doom to hell for that.)
11.I'm a harry Potter fan(most christians think it's anti GOD)
but some christians say my beliefs are so unbibical that I'm not a christian.


Am I truly not a christian?




1. 2 TIMOTHY 3:16 "All Scriptures is God Breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking,correcting and training the righteousness."2 PETER 1:20 "Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation."Joshua 1:8"Do not let this Book of the law depart from your mouth,meditate on it day and night,so that you may be careful to do everything written in it.Then you will be prosperous and successful."

2.1 Thessalonians 4:17"After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever."

3.Romans 10:9"That if you confess with your mouth Jesus is lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead you will be saved.

4.Its fine if you believe in Ghost.But always put Jesus First in you life.

5.1 Corinthians 15:52"52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed."If the dead go to heaven then the reincarnation theory is very flawed.

6.No christians should never condenm anyone because thats Gods job.Matthew 7:1

7.Anyone who does not accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and savior will burn in the lake of fire.Because they all sinned and did not ask Jesus to wash away their sins.REVALATION 21:8 "But the cowardly,the unbelieving,the vile.the murderers,the sexually immoral,those who practice magic arts,the idolaters,and all liars there place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfer this is the second death."Romans 3:22"This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe.There is no difference,for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus."

8.Regarding whats sinful please read.Ephesians 4:25 to 4:32 Also Romans 12:17 to 12:21 also Read Matthew 5:21 to 6:19. Definition of sin is not obeying God.

9.No clue if they do or not.

10.The bible does not support Homosexuality.Romans 1:26 "for this reason god gave them over to degrading passions for their women exchange the natural function for that which is unnatural and in the same way also the men abandon the natural function of the women and burned in their desire towards one another men with men commiting indecent acts and recieving in their own persons the due penalty of their error".

11.As long as you don't start using witch craft.Its fine for you to be a harry potter fan.


Only God knows if your a true Christian or not.But i would recommend you read the bible and follow it.As you read the bible you will grow in the word of Christ.I'll pray for you to come closer to Christ and to find all the answers you are looking for.God Bless :prayer:
 
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The thing is, I do read some of the bible. I just feel like learning about different beliefs and questioning things. I'm not going against the bible, I just truly want to learn more there is then the bible. I want to be open minded to other things. I was thinking all these after the post. I'm not talking about witchcraft I'm not into that stuff. I'm talking about discovering what beliefs make me happy. Everyone believes different even if they are a christian. Most christians can't believe that I want to question the bible and believe beyond it.
I been praying about all of this though.


thanks for the help.
 
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The bible pretains to everyone even gays. You're right that a lot of the things you believe are not true, BUT you can easily become a christian. By simpilly saying a simple prayer, somthing like this: Dear Jesus, I want you to be my Lord and Savior I accept you into my heart and into my life. I believe that you are God and there is no other God besides you. And I am sorry for all the sins I have committed against you. Please forgive me I want to be yours now. Amen. Now use your own words, and acctaully mean what you say. Soon you'll be seeing a change in your life. And as for being gay God doesn't want you to go through that. He loves you and even though it might seem cool at first after a while it will become a way of life for you. And it will be hard to go back which I promise you, you will eventually want to. And so the best thing to do is just not even start being gay. Just give your all to God and he'll take care of you. And remember Even though I don't understand what you're going through God always does. Congrats on becoming a christian. Remember it's not always going to be easy but it will pay off in the end, and you'll be glad you did. I'll be praying for you. Hope everything works out ok. P.S. You should get plugged into a penticostal God believing church. P.S.S. You should check out the book of james you'll like it.
 
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1. I don't believe the bible is 100%

Please elaborate.

2. I don't believe in the rapture.

Neither do I.

3. I believe in Jesus and GOD

What is this supposed to mean?

4. I believe in ghost

In what sense?

5. I believe in recarntion

WHich is, quite simply, not a Christian belief.

6. I don't believe in condeming people

Please explain.

7. I don't believe anyone goes to hell but the truly wicked

What is your definition of "truly wicked" and for that matter who is not "truly wicked"?

8. I believe the only sin is hurting others or yourself

Again, please elaborate.

9. I believe animals have souls.

I don't think this itself makes you a non-Christian, but I would like to know what led you to believe this.

10. I'm starting to prefer girls over boys(and people think I'm doom to hell for that.)

If you do not accept the scriptures, then it might be difficult to reason with you here.

11.I'm a harry Potter fan(most christians think it's anti GOD)

I don't think that's so bad...
 
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Marmaladegirl22 said:
The thing is, I do read some of the bible. I just feel like learning about different beliefs and questioning things. I'm not going against the bible, I just truly want to learn more there is then the bible. I want to be open minded to other things. I was thinking all these after the post. I'm not talking about witchcraft I'm not into that stuff. I'm talking about discovering what beliefs make me happy. Everyone believes different even if they are a christian. Most christians can't believe that I want to question the bible and believe beyond it.
I been praying about all of this though.


thanks for the help.
You are seeking the truth. You'll find it. Or like in my case...the truth finds you!! :hug:
 
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Marmaladegirl22 said:
I'm very clueless right now, I'm told I'm not a true christian for my beliefs.
here they are

1. I don't believe the bible is 100%
2. I don't believe in the rapture.
3. I believe in Jesus and GOD
4. I believe in ghost
5. I believe in recarntion
6. I don't believe in condeming people
7. I don't believe anyone goes to hell but the truly wicked
8. I believe the only sin is hurting others or yourself
9. I believe animals have souls.
10. I'm starting to prefer girls over boys(and people think I'm doom to hell for that.)
11.I'm a harry Potter fan(most christians think it's anti GOD)
but some christians say my beliefs are so unbibical that I'm not a christian.


Am I truly not a christian?
Have you EVER at any point in time, BELIEVED that Jesus was your Lord and Savior?
 
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I believe he is now, and I love him dearly.

Bulldog, I don't understand what you mean? I have a hard time with big english words. :sigh: No, I don't understand alot of the bible. bulldog I will tell you I know in my heart animals have souls, it is a personal belief. I think it's foolish for us to think we are the only ones with souls. Thank you walkwithchrist, I'm glad you understand how it is to be young like I am and lost.
 
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Marmaladegirl22 said:
I'm very clueless right now, I'm told I'm not a true christian for my beliefs.
Marmaladegirl22 said:
here they are
1. I don't believe the bible is 100%
2. I don't believe in the rapture.
3. I believe in Jesus and GOD
4. I believe in ghost
5. I believe in recarntion
6. I don't believe in condeming people
7. I don't believe anyone goes to hell but the truly wicked
8. I believe the only sin is hurting others or yourself
9. I believe animals have souls.
10. I'm starting to prefer girls over boys(and people think I'm doom to hell for that.)
11.I'm a harry Potter fan(most christians think it's anti GOD)
but some christians say my beliefs are so unbibical that I'm not a christian.

Am I truly not a christian?

I think that most of the 10 question have been covered very nicely by TS1, Davis, WalksWithChrist, Followers4christ….well everyone, I just wanted to give a shout out to them.:wave: :thumbsup: :clap:

I just want to add a good bit.

1) you have been deceived by those who wish to deceive you. It appears more and more common this days that people don’t believe 100%. But Followers4christ spoke truthfully.

2) I pm you briefly about the rapture. It is a mystery. We don’t know it’s full purpose if it is pre-trib., mid-trib, post-trib, etc…they are on going debates about it. Don’t let your heart be troubled by it. When know it is apart of the 2nd coming and you can’t do anything about it. Though people have given certain meanings to it because they believe it will occur at certain times. It is not fully detailed to distinguish it perfectly. I reinforce that it will happen.

John 17:13
13“I am coming to you now, but I say these things while I am still in the world, so that they may have the full measure of my joy within them. 14I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world. 15My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. 16They are not of the world, even as I am not of it. 17Sanctify them bythe truth; your word is truth. 18As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world. 19For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified.

We don’t escape the world. God is coming here. Read Rev 21 & 22. Also:


John 17:15-20+
15My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. 16They are not of the world, even as I am not of it. 17Sanctify them bythe truth; your word is truth. 18As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world. 19For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified.

4) believe in the existence of spirits because God created them. Look at Samuel the prophet being called to answer Saul. However, have nothing to do with them.

5) recarnation strips a person away from their identity. God has created you unquie with an identity. He spends a long period of time developing it. He is not going to trash his work to just make you something different. Paul tells us in 1 Cor 15:58:
58Therefore, my dear brothers and sisters, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain.

If our labor is not in vain then more importantly, our identity is not vain.


7) Who are truly wicked? Those who don’t actually believe and then do God’s covenant with us. It is God’s standard that we look to for the ultimate good. There is not an individual truth of good and love for you and then another one for me. That is not what Jesus taught.


8) you recognize hurting is evil. The completeness of it is that evil does not sustain people the way good does. From what you think a person could have sexual relations with another committed to just the pleasure of it and it is ok. This is totally different from the bible.


Gal 5:13-26
13You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature d; rather, serve one another humbly in love. 14For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.
16So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the sinful nature. 17For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. 18But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
19The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. 25Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.


10) why? If you believe God created man for woman, and you believe him, why then do you question him? The physical connection is right there…surely you know how man and woman fit. I would want you to know that when a man and a woman become one, it is believed their entire being merges (physical and spiritual). And God wrote that men be devoted to a woman the way Jesus was for the church. And wives to husbands.

Apart of being a Christian is actually living in love.

John 8:
31To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. 32Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

Math 11:28
28“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”

Phil 4:4-9
4Rejoice in the Lord always. I will say it again: Rejoice! 5Let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near. 6Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. 7And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.
8Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable— if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things. 9Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me—put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you.


Eph. 2:8-10
8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast. 10For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.


I have not came here to discourage….I want you to be that shining light in the darkness. Don’t let lies told to you be deceivers feel your heart. Through of the things their lies. Put on the armor of God so that you will be protected.


Mat 5: 14-16
14“You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. 15Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.

1 Peter 2:12
12Live such good lives among the pagans that, though they accuse you of doing wrong, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day he visits us.


BTW! I love the Harry Potter Series. It is very interesting. I don’t believe a single thing in there is real magic, but I hope it does not entice you to believe in magic or Wicca. God says don’t do witchcraft. It is of demons. I am sorry if this was apart of your life because of others. But all of what is good and holy is of God. The only truly power is through him. He created nature and the universe. He is the supreme authority of the cosmos.
 
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Thank you, DVD. I'm not questioning GOD but the bible, I been wondering if it's 100 true? who is to say some of it didn't change? If any book is rewritten a bunch of times tons of things change. I don't think it's a fiction book, I think there is alot of truth for it. But I don't think we can say it's 100% true. The only reason I'm questioning christianity at all is because so many people want to force me into their own beliefs, and think I'm going to hell if I don't follow their beliefs. Every christian beliefs different and sees GOD, the bible and Jesus has different.


God is working on me to be a better person, he is taking my lust of women away from me and showing me the light. I think he knows I have alot to work out, but he hasn't given up hope on me.
 
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Marmaladegirl22 said:
Thank you, DVD. I'm not questioning GOD but the bible, I been wondering if it's 100 true? who is to say some of it didn't change? If any book is rewritten a bunch of times tons of things change. I don't think it's a fiction book, I think there is alot of truth for it. But I don't think we can say it's 100% true. The only reason I'm questioning christianity at all is because so many people want to force me into their own beliefs, and think I'm going to hell if I don't follow their beliefs. Every christian beliefs different and sees GOD, the bible and Jesus has different.


God is working on me to be a better person, he is taking my lust of women away from me and showing me the light. I think he knows I have alot to work out, but he hasn't given up hope on me.

:wave: You know I have had some mouth fulls when I talk to you. :)

Anyway, there are many theologians who take up the quest of understanding the bible and specifically make sure the bible is word for word correct. I am personaly taken a journey on find the historical Jesus. There are some good authories who discuss the validate of the bible. I am sure several people can suggest to you certain ones that can help you become more excepting to it's authuntiesty. I recommend Thomas Cahill's Desire of the Everlasting Hills: The World Before and After Jesus (Hinges of History, Vol. 3 or anything from NT Wright (who has a lot of free stuff from his website), and Aims of Jesus by F. Meyer.
I want you to know that Jesus is not stuck in the past and in a culture so different from ours that it is not worth looking into....It is very important. You don't have to know the history to get some of the theology of Jesus, but without the history we can reshape Jesus into anything...

Also, for good authors to encourage faith try Max Lucado. He is a very easy read that is deep in passion for Christ.
 
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I know, I'm also upset with christinity again. They think we deserve all these hurricanes, they are calling it GOD'S judgement. Anyone who knows me, knows the pain I went through with Rita. The people who call it GOD'S judgement have no idea how horrible it is the actually be in a hurricane.
 
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Marmaladegirl22 said:
I'm very very touchy about hurricanes, when people say something like we deserve them I just break down.

Philippians 4:6-9

6 Don't fret or worry. Instead of worrying, pray. Let petitions and praises shape your worries into prayers, letting God know your concerns.
7 Before you know it, a sense of God's wholeness, everything coming together for good, will come and settle you down. It's wonderful what happens when Christ displaces worry at the center of your life.
8 Summing it all up, friends, I'd say you'll do best by filling your minds and meditating on things true, noble, reputable, authentic, compelling, gracious--the best, not the worst; the beautiful, not the ugly; things to praise, not things to curse.
9 Put into practice what you learned from me, what you heard and saw and realized. Do that, and God, who makes everything work together, will work you into his most excellent harmonies.
(The Message)

G-d bless,
sc
Ps. Im praying for you! :prayer:
 
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Marmaladegirl22 said:
Bulldog, I don't understand what you mean? I have a hard time with big english words. :sigh: No, I don't understand alot of the bible.

What I want to know is how you believe that the Bible is not 100% true? Scribal errors? Purposeful corruption?

bulldog I will tell you I know in my heart animals have souls, it is a personal belief. I think it's foolish for us to think we are the only ones with souls.

My heart tells me that it's foolish to say that animals do have souls (let's just assume that that's true). We can't both be right, now can we?
 
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