Allah is not the God of Abraham

[habibii zahra]

Bible Prophecies of Muhammad (part 2 of 4): Old Testament Prophecies of Muhammad - The Religion of Islam
Moses and Mohammad

 

[ViaCrucis]

you can never find any Quran different than any other in the whole earth...yet you have multiple books of bible in the whole world

You seem to largely be repeating yourself. Why is a single book inherently more truthful than multiple books?

What you are arguing is akin to saying that any book plucked from a public library is true, and more true than an entire library of books--it's an absurd argument and you haven't offered any rationale for it.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

why don't you believe in MOHAMMAD as a prophet

Well the short answer is I have no reason to. The longer answer is because Muhammad taught things which explicitly violate the teachings of the Christian religion, thus from the position of Christianity Muhammad is a false prophet.

didn't he came to call you to believe in the god of the Christ?? didn't he call you to believe in the Christ? in the divine books? in the ten commandment??..

Well no, because I believe in the God and Father of the Lord Jesus Christ, who is the eternal Son of the Father, uncreated, true God of true God, who suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, buried, and dead, who descended into the depths, rose again on the third day, ascended into heaven, is seated at the right hand of the Father in glory as King of kings and Lord of lords, who will come again to judge the quick and the dead.

If believing in Muhammad means denying my Lord and my God then it's an easy choice to make: I will not, and cannot, believe in Muhammad, his message is false, and he is not a messenger or prophet of God. It's ultimately that simple.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[CherubRam]

Bible Prophecies of Muhammad (part 2 of 4): Old Testament Prophecies of Muhammad - The Religion of Islam
Moses and Mohammad

The Prophet
Deuteronomy 18
14 The nations you will dispossess listen to those who practice sorcery or divination. But as for you, (the Lord / Yahwah) your God has not permitted you to do so. 15 (The Lord / Yahwah) your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your fellow Israelites. You must listen to him. 16 For this is what you asked of (the Lord / Yahwah) your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly when you said, “Let us not hear the voice of (the Lord / Yahwah) our God nor see this great fire anymore, or we will die.”

17 (The Lord / Yahwah) said to me: “What they say is good. 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him. 19 I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name. 20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name (Yahwah) anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, (Allah) is to be put to death.”

21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by (the Lord / Yahwah)?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of (the Lord / Yahwah) does not take place or come true, that is a message (the Lord / Yahwah) has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.

 

[CherubRam]

Allah was a Pagan god worshiped by the Arabs.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Allah was a Pagan god worshiped by the Arabs.

Typing it in larger and bold letters doesn't make it any more true than the last few times you said it. This statement remains objectively and factually false.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[CherubRam]

Typing it in larger and bold letters doesn't make it any more true than the last few times you said it. This statement remains objectively and factually false.

-CryptoLutheran

And you do not know what you are talking about. Study history!

 

[CherubRam]

Bible Prophecies of Muhammad (part 2 of 4): Old Testament Prophecies of Muhammad - The Religion of Islam
Moses and Mohammad

Where are the Quranic verse for these claims?

 

[CherubRam]

God spoke further to Moses and said to him, "I am Yahwah (YHVH) and I appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as God Almighty; BUT BY MY NAME, YAHWAH, I did not make myself known to them.";
Exodus 6:2-3

We see here that Abraham never used the name Allah.

 

[ViaCrucis]

God spoke further to Moses and said to him, "I am Yahwah (YHVH) and I appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as God Almighty; BUT BY MY NAME, YAHWAH, I did not make myself known to them.";
Exodus 6:2-3

We see here that Abraham never used the name Allah.

Abraham didn't use the name God either. Because Abraham didn't speak Arabic or English.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Jadis40]

Christians do not believe Muhammad is a prophet, so from a Christian perspective a book that calls him a prophet cannot be true.

-CryptoLutheran

Adding to this - the Bible, in neither the old testament (Genesis through Malachi) or the New Testament (Matthew to Revelation) even hints at or mentions Mohammad. It's a wrestling with scripture on the part of Muslims to make it say something it doesn't say and trying to apply scripture to someone that was not and is not a prophet. So to state it simply: Mohammad is not a prophet. The Comforter is the Holy Spirit, and Jesus even said as much. John 14:16.

Mohammad died centuries ago, and he's still dead. The Holy Spirit, part of the trinity, is with us today. Jesus kept his promise.

 

[CherubRam]

Abraham didn't use the name God either. Because Abraham didn't speak Arabic or English.

-CryptoLutheran

Abraham knew God as "God Almighty."

God
Ancient Hebrew: IL.
Aramaic: IL.
Hebrew: EL.
English: God.
Spanish: Dios.
Italian: Iddio, Iddìo, Dio.
German: Gutes, Gott.
Germanic, Old French: Gott.
French: Dieux, Dieu.
Greek: Theo, Theos.
Latin: Deus.
Norwegian: Gud.
Swedish: Gud.
Portugese: Deus.

 

[CherubRam]

God Almighty / El Shaddai
The root word "shadad" (שדד) means to plunder, overpower, or make desolate. The meaning may go back to an original sense which was "to be strong" as in the Arabic "shadiid" (شديد) "strong", although normally the Arabic letter pronounced "sh" corresponds to the Hebrew letter sin, not to shin.



Some scholars believe the name is derived from an Akkadian word Šadu, meaning "mountain," suggesting strength and power.

 

[Arthra]

For those interested there's an article on the use of 'Allah" and by various groups in history..

An excerpt from the article reads:

The Aramaic word for "God" in the language of Assyrian Christians is ʼĔlāhā, or Alaha. Arabic-speakers of all Abrahamic faiths, including Christians and Jews, use the word "Allah" to mean "God".[10] The Christian Arabs of today have no other word for "God" than "Allah".[29] (Even the Arabic-descended Maltese language of Malta, whose population is almost entirely Roman Catholic, uses Alla for "God".) Arab Christians, for example, use the terms Allāh al-ab (الله الأب) for God the Father, Allāh al-ibn (الله الابن) for God the Son, and Allāh al-rūḥ al-quds (الله الروح القدس) for God the Holy Spirit. (See God in Christianity for the Christian concept of God.)

 

[danny ski]

Adding to this - the Bible, in neither the old testament (Genesis through Malachi) or the New Testament (Matthew to Revelation) even hints at or mentions Mohammad. It's a wrestling with scripture on the part of Muslims to make it say something it doesn't say and trying to apply scripture to someone that was not and is not a prophet. So to state it simply: Mohammad is not a prophet. The Comforter is the Holy Spirit, and Jesus even said as much. John 14:16.

Mohammad died centuries ago, and he's still dead. The Holy Spirit, part of the trinity, is with us today. Jesus kept his promise.

To be fair to the late founder of Islam, the same argument can be made about Jesus and his claims.

 

[habibii zahra]

Well the short answer is I have no reason to. The longer answer is because Muhammad taught things which explicitly violate the teachings of the Christian religion, thus from the position of Christianity Muhammad is a false prophet.



Well no, because I believe in the God and Father of the Lord Jesus Christ, who is the eternal Son of the Father, uncreated, true God of true God, who suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, buried, and dead, who descended into the depths, rose again on the third day, ascended into heaven, is seated at the right hand of the Father in glory as King of kings and Lord of lords, who will come again to judge the quick and the dead.

If believing in Muhammad means denying my Lord and my God then it's an easy choice to make: I will not, and cannot, believe in Muhammad, his message is false, and he is not a messenger or prophet of God. It's ultimately that simple.

-CryptoLutheran

But Mohammad invited us to believe in Jesus and Moses in the bible and the torah so why cant he be a true prophet

 

[habibii zahra]

.I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth.

this is the same meaning as when god said to him "read" then he say I cant read then he put his words in his mouth and said read so he read..
prophet Mohammad called us to believe in the god of the universe.why cant this be an invitation to worship YHWH when YHWH is another name of ALLAH the god the father??

 

[habibii zahra]

Allah was a Pagan god worshiped by the Arabs.

no ALLAH is not a pagan god ALLAH has come through the revelation of the Islamic religion when the Quran was revealed he invited us to believe in ALLAH the god of the universe
this is the origin of ALLAH's name:
Allah - Wikipedia
read this..
well ALLAH is the father he is the god of Moses jesus and Mohammad and that is it

 

[habibii zahra]

God spoke further to Moses and said to him, "I am Yahwah (YHVH) and I appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as God Almighty; BUT BY MY NAME, YAHWAH, I did not make myself known to them.";
Exodus 6:2-3

We see here that Abraham never used the name Allah.

he used the name of god in his own language which is equivalent to the name of ALLAH in Arabic

 

[CherubRam]

this is the same meaning as when god said to him "read" then he say I cant read then he put his words in his mouth and said read so he read..
prophet Mohammad called us to believe in the god of the universe.why cant this be an invitation to worship YHWH when YHWH is another name of ALLAH the god the father??

The name Yahwah means "Life Began."