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All volcanoes on Mars are extinct. Is it an old planet?

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I've had lots of dream about the end of the age. The meek inherited the Earth and only few remained.

We had to deal with the tons of junk left behind by this crazy age like the 1 million dollar supercars whose owners are gone, disappeared.

And of course, what's left of the Earth's space program. The Lord did not tell us to stop. I think it helped that the money-obsessed population is gone and with money no longer a factor, we suddenly have unlimited resources to reboot the space program.

Having these replicating robots in space might help ease the transition to the next age.
Yep. Billionaires tend to ruin the world. But we will probably wipe ourselves out before we can have replicating robots in space. Have you joined a church, and discussed the End Times with your pastor (I go to a church, but have not discussed End Times stuff with my priest yet).
 
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Yep. Billionaires tend to ruin the world. But we will probably wipe ourselves out before we can have replicating robots in space. Have you joined a church, and discussed the End Times with your pastor (I go to a church, but have not discussed End Times stuff with my priest yet).

I'm non-denominational Christian who used to be Pentecostal and we don't need to discuss end times with our pastor.

The vast majority of people were gone in my dreams of the New Earth. Something definitely wiped them out.

The city infrastructure was also heavily damaged but we managed to salvage much of the technology and the houses and roads on the hills were still mostly intact and we moved into these houses.

It's not that we still needed technology but it seems space tech is the most essential of them. Our bodies started to transform and seemed to have become immortal but still needed something to move across space if we needed to get to other stars. Jesus was there and seems to making a point that we do need to be able to get to the stars.
 
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I'm non-denominational Christian who used to be Pentecostal and we don't need to discuss end times with our pastor.

The vast majority of people were gone in my dreams of the New Earth. Something definitely wiped them out.

The city infrastructure was also heavily damaged but we managed to salvage much of the technology and the houses and roads on the hills were still mostly intact and we moved into these houses.

It's not that we still needed technology but it seems space tech is the most essential of them. Our bodies started to transform and seemed to have become immortal but still needed something to move across space if we needed to get to other stars. Jesus was there and seems to making a point that we do need to be able to get to the stars.
It is good that you became non denominational. What year did you think your dream was set? 21st or 22nd century?
 
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It's definitely the 21st century.
Tech will not become that advanced in our world that quickly. Remember people thinking we would land on Mars by 2020 back in the early 2010s? It is looking to be 2040 at this point. Remember folks saying we would have nuclear fusion by 2030? It is looking to be 2050.
 
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When compared to the age of the Universe being 13.7 Billion years old , the Earth being 4.5 Billion is a fairly young planet.
That's my understanding as well.
 
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Tech will not become that advanced in our world that quickly. Remember people thinking we would land on Mars by 2020 back in the early 2010s? It is looking to be 2040 at this point. Remember folks saying we would have nuclear fusion by 2030? It is looking to be 2050.

Tech could advance incredibly quickly if people are motivated enough and funding for research is less constrained like what happened during WW2.

The technological advancements during the few short years of WW2 is just ridiculous. Never to be matched again at least until the coming age that I saw in my dreams.

Most people think money is a huge enabler of innovation. However, in reality, it's more of a hindrance especially to the space program. Because of our over-populated planet, Resources have become limited and needs to be allocated. Money serves that purpose of allocating resources. However, this also means ideas that aren't likely to generate revenue would only receive little or no funding even if that idea could prevent the extinction of the human race.:doh:

Space travel is generally seen as far too risky and less likely to get funding. There are simpler, far less risky ways to make obscene amounts of money.

Back in WW2, winning the war is the only objective, not making tons of money so even crazy ideas that are incredibly expensive to execute gets funding and that is why tech advancements during WW2 proceeded at a phenomenal rate.

At the coming age, the vast majority of the human population will be wiped out. Only 1 to 10 million human beings on Earth remaining. At that point, we stopped allocating resources and stopped using money nor any form of trading altogether. We simply made what we loved to make and gave them away for free - we can also get what others have made for free so it was all fair and amazing. Poverty no longer existed and everyone lived in abundance.
 
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You’d need to kick start a new Megnetosphere to make any kind of surface habitation viable.
Why the need for a magnetosphere? If you've got an atmosphere, that provides plenty of shielding from radiation, and an intrinsic magnetosphere doesn't seem to be needed to protect the atmosphere from erosion. (And in any case, if you're capable of generating an atmosphere largely from scratch, maintaining it seems like a pretty easy task.)
 
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If you've got an atmosphere, that provides plenty of shielding from radiation, and an intrinsic magnetosphere doesn't seem to be needed to protect the atmosphere from erosion.
Wouldn't the solar wind eventually blow off the atmo without the magnetic field to push it away?
 
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Wouldn't the solar wind eventually blow off the atmo without the magnetic field to push it away?

The Earth did lose its magnetic for a time 590 million years ago.

We did not lose the atmosphere and we did not have an extinction level event BUT, the Earth experience an "explosion" in the diversity of animal and plant species.

What this means is more radiation (or more toxic compounds) on the Earth's surface causing living creatures to mutate/evolve at a rapid pace. Not only increased radiation but the high energy particles from the solar wind can cause chemical reactions in the atmosphere that can produce toxic compounds that can reach the Earth's surface.

If such event happens today, we won't spontaneously combust as depicted in some movies. We will go on living but cancer cases will rise. More people will get sick and average lifespans of humans will drop but it's not going to wipe us off the Earth. People will just have to conceive at a much younger age (in their teens) in order for our species to survive with a much shorter lifespan. Life will be hard though if people are dying early and dying of cancer. Cancer is not the most pleasant way to die. Heart attack or a fatal stroke is far easier way to die.

It would still be better to have magnetic field unless you don't mind wearing an anti-radiation, chemical resistant suit whenever you went outdoors.
 
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Tech could advance incredibly quickly if people are motivated enough and funding for research is less constrained like what happened during WW2.

The technological advancements during the few short years of WW2 is just ridiculous. Never to be matched again at least until the coming age that I saw in my dreams.

Most people think money is a huge enabler of innovation. However, in reality, it's more of a hindrance especially to the space program. Because of our over-populated planet, Resources have become limited and needs to be allocated. Money serves that purpose of allocating resources. However, this also means ideas that aren't likely to generate revenue would only receive little or no funding even if that idea could prevent the extinction of the human race.:doh:

Space travel is generally seen as far too risky and less likely to get funding. There are simpler, far less risky ways to make obscene amounts of money.

Back in WW2, winning the war is the only objective, not making tons of money so even crazy ideas that are incredibly expensive to execute gets funding and that is why tech advancements during WW2 proceeded at a phenomenal rate.

At the coming age, the vast majority of the human population will be wiped out. Only 1 to 10 million human beings on Earth remaining. At that point, we stopped allocating resources and stopped using money nor any form of trading altogether. We simply made what we loved to make and gave them away for free - we can also get what others have made for free so it was all fair and amazing. Poverty no longer existed and everyone lived in abundance.
Are you a futurist? You remind me of Michio Kaku, a good guy, but one who thought we would have driverless cars before 2030.

 
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Are you a futurist? You remind me of Michio Kaku, a good guy, but one who thought we would have driverless cars before 2030.

Ugh, futurists. Thankfully I grew up and realized they just dwelt in fantasy.
 
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Ugh, futurists. Thankfully I grew up and realized they just dwelt in fantasy.
Agreed. I used to be a bit of a futurist as well, cos of Popular Science magazine and a book "Physics of the Future" by Michio Kaku until I saw that most of that periodical was bologna.
 
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The Earth did lose its magnetic for a time 590 million years ago.

We did not lose the atmosphere and we did not have an extinction level event BUT, the Earth experience an "explosion" in the diversity of animal and plant species.

What this means is more radiation (or more toxic compounds) on the Earth's surface causing living creatures to mutate/evolve at a rapid pace. Not only increased radiation but the high energy particles from the solar wind can cause chemical reactions in the atmosphere that can produce toxic compounds that can reach the Earth's surface.
What's your evidence for these statements? As far as I know, complete loss of the magnetic field would result in only a modest increase in background radiation levels -- small compared to existing variation in surface radiation from different local geologic conditions. What chemical reactions are you referring to? What I've seen proposed is that loss of the magnetic field led to an increase in oxygen caused by loss of hydrogen to the solar wind. I have no idea whether that's accurate or not, but it doesn't sound like what you're proposing.
 
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Are you a futurist? You remind me of Michio Kaku, a good guy, but one who thought we would have driverless cars before 2030.


Sorry, I didn't realize this is the physical science section and should not have talked about prophetic revelations.

I am stupid for wasting time talking about it.
 
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What's your evidence for these statements? As far as I know, complete loss of the magnetic field would result in only a modest increase in background radiation levels -- small compared to existing variation in surface radiation from different local geologic conditions. What chemical reactions are you referring to? What I've seen proposed is that loss of the magnetic field led to an increase in oxygen caused by loss of hydrogen to the solar wind. I have no idea whether that's accurate or not, but it doesn't sound like what you're proposing.

Losing the Ozone layer from chemical reactions with solar wind and cosmic rays is just one of the problem.

 
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Agreed. I used to be a bit of a futurist as well, cos of Popular Science magazine and a book "Physics of the Future" by Michio Kaku until I saw that most of that periodical was bologna.
Ah, Popular Science, a common vector for "futurist" stuff. Leaving HS and getting better reading material got me away from that one. You missed out on OMNI. That mag was weird.
 
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