All The White Supremacists Running For Office In 2018

[Polar Bear Quest]

Caucasians are the only "race" who are not allowed to be proud of it.

I see people expressing their pride for their Irish and Italian heritage especially in America. Now some may get skittish when they say "I"m proud to be white" because it's so closely related to racist white supremacist lingo of the past. But I've never seen someone afraid to express their pride in their Irish, Italian, British, or German heritage.

 

[Polar Bear Quest]

Hi PB,

Oh, I agree that someone isn't likely to just say that they're a 'white supremacist'. I was just pointing out the kind of ideology that should be avoided. As far as diversity, I don't know what's in people's minds all the time, but ideological diversity is generally the kind that keeps people from being able to get along. Maybe it's time to get rid of parties. Just have politicians with no party affiliation who just run for elected offices based solely on the merits of their platform.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

But you agree that diversity of people (different races) is a great thing correct? As I stated before we know diverse ideas can be a bad thing but a diverse melting pot of people is great correct?

Also, do you think that someone with a platform of "diversity isn't our strong suit" would be a good platform? Of course, referring to race and not ideas.

 

[Polar Bear Quest]

Check your South African news....

Seems to me there's a big push among liberals to eradicate all traces of "white privilege" and anything that is associated with whatever that means.

So you're saying white people are in mass facing a genocide in South Africa? Am I missing something here, are you from SA, I can't check SA news.

 

[Polar Bear Quest]

I think you are referring to antifa....

Please don't change the subject to another group. Do you disagree that these white nationalists groups are violent?

Two things.... first, can you provide any evidence (not just rhetoric) that Trump is racist?
Second, how is historic low unemployment rates for minority groups a bad thing. Here's a video of Trump meeting with black leaders about inner city opportunities.... lets see if you can spot Trump the racist.

On Trump's racism his quote: they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists, and some I suppose are good people.

Note here, he won't even admit most are law abiding, instead he says "some" may be good, he won't even "some" are good.

This is just one quote, but this history of Trump's racism is very broad and wide ranging from refusal to rent to minorities (he lost a lawsuit), to basic insults. The guy even got on the Obama was born in Kenya nonsense. He constantly also posts fake crime statistics about blacks. If you don't see Trump's racism you don't want to see it. And the only reason I bothered to respond to so many people is to give them a wake up call.

Opinion | Donald Trump’s Racism: The Definitive List

1. Meeting with black leaders does not prove anything, these black leaders may meet with Trump just to pose for a photo op and publicity he is the president after all.

2. Concerning the black unemployment rate. It was already at a 10 year low to begin with which had nothing to do with Trump and his policies and the statistic of black unemployment had only been taken since 1972.

3. And the unemployment rate of blacks only makes the reason so many white nationalists reason for being angry look comical.

We all know the white unemployment rate is always less then the black unemployment rate, so what is the reason for the outrage. Remember in the comment i responded to he claimed it was loss of jobs and immigrants taking over industries but whites have a better unemployment rate so why are these white nationalists so angry.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Actually I think you are right there. I’ve never really thought about it. I don’t feel anything in particular about being white to be honest, but I understand what you are saying.

Considering that Europeans have advanced civilisation for the last 500 years is something to recognize. I don't support pride but the facts are what the facts are. Perhaps these other ethnicities would be happy living in a world where "whites" hadn't advanced anything.

Just to add, I find the whole "white" designation to be generalist and used in ignorance. The Roman Empire sufficiently mixed the races so that there can be no pure "white" race anyway. Add to that, the fact we all descended from one common ancestor, Noah, completely obliterates the notion of pure races.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

So you're saying white people are in mass facing a genocide in South Africa? Am I missing something here, are you from SA, I can't check SA news.

You have access to the WORLD WIDE WEB and you can't check what's happening in SA?.... sounds like your just not willing to put in the small effort that would take.

 

[tulc]

I wouldn't be able to judge them. Many of what you consider to be damning utterances made by some of them are not what they seem, and I addressed that. On the surface, at least, none of them seems to be racist or white supremacist.

...so this guy doesn't seem like he may tend toward white supremacy?:

His campaign website includes a document called “The ‘Holocaust’ Racket,” which describes the well-documented genocide of 6 million Jews by German Nazis during World War II as “the biggest blackest lie in history.”

Jones told the Sun-Times he is a former leader of the American Nazi Party. Last year, he spoke in Kentucky at a gathering of the National Socialist Movement, a prominent neo-Nazi group.

tulc(is just wondering)

 

[miamited]

But you agree that diversity of people (different races) is a great thing correct? As I stated before we know diverse ideas can be a bad thing but a diverse melting pot of people is great correct?

Also, do you think that someone with a platform of "diversity isn't our strong suit" would be a good platform? Of course, referring to race and not ideas.

Hi PB,

Diversity is what made America what it is today. Diversity is what made America what it was 50 years ago; 100 years ago. We have, for all intents and purposes, been a nation that has taken in just about anyone who would come to our shores and ask for citizenship. It is actually a rather modern and liberal idea that we now want to shut off our borders. Why? Because now Americans are greedy and separatist. We're afraid that new people are going to take from us what we've got. We no longer want the poor and huddled masses because they're going to take from us what we've got. This is actually new, in the last 50 years, thinking.

Despite what political pundits would have us believe, illegal immigration doesn't really cost us much in the way of social services as they would have us believe. Yes, the dollar amounts sound big to us who work with checking balances that are a couple of hundred or a few thousand dollars. But in the grand scheme of a national budget of some $4-5 trillion, the few million that we might spend on services for illegal immigrants is a drop in the bucket. A lot of those illegal immigrants pay taxes. They pay sales taxes when they buy goods and services just like everyone else. Many have payroll taxes taken out, but because they are illegal, they don't get to file to get them back even though they may well live below the poverty level. Many states pay school taxes through property tax levies. Guess what, when an illegal immigrant family rents some squalid home to live in, the landlord of that property pays property taxes out of the revenue earned from the rents. So, many illegal immigrants pay a share of school taxes just like everyone else that has a roof over their head.

I'm a landlord. I have owned rental properties in South Florida. All of my tenants, although they didn't personally fill out a check to pay property taxes from which school costs are paid, the check that I sent for the respective property taxes was their money. I was just the middle man that collected it from them. Just as many mortgage companies actually send the check to pay the property taxes from escrowed amounts from monthly mortgage payments. There are actually millions of people across this nation that don't personally send the check to pay their property taxes, but they pay their property taxes. So, it's just a little disingenuous to say that illegal immigrants don't pay for the costs of their children attending American schools. If they have a roof over their heads for which they pay any kind of rent, then they pay property taxes just as much as anyone who rents a home to provide a roof over their head.

So, I'm not so bothered by this argument that illegal immigration costs us a lot of money. Now, there is the issue of vetting immigrants because of the new breed of terrorists, but most terrorists do not come from Mexico or South America. Many of our terrorists are just home grown angry Americans. The majority of the rest have been identified as middle eastern. Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist for all intent of the definition. Timothy McVeigh was a good ole American boy. He was born here and raised here and went to school here. He would never have been identified as a terrorist through any immigration channels, but there he was. Stephen Paddock was a good ole American boy born in Iowa for crying out loud.

So, I just don't see the picture of immigration as our boaster in chief does. I don't agree that immigration is costing us a boatload of money. I imagine that even if we did stop all illegal immigration we wouldn't see one spot of difference in our national financial picture that would be measurable. I don't agree that anywhere near the majority or even a large part of immigrants are murderers, rapists or terrorists. The facts just don't support the claims.

Here's an interesting article on the subject of illegal immigrants paying taxes: Why undocumented immigrants pay taxes

All these people that will yell and scream at us that illegal immigrants don't pay their way don't ever mention anything about this. They don't bother even allowing that many of them do pay taxes and all of them, if they're living in a home, pay for schools through the property taxes that their landlord pays, or that they pay sales taxes just like everyone else. Contrary to popular belief, illegal immigrants don't usually get a free ride once they start working and find a place to live and begin buying supplies and clothing for their families.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Please don't change the subject to another group. Do you disagree that these white nationalists groups are violent?

I have heard of violence by some people that espouse white nationalist leanings... just like I've heard of violence by every other ethnicities nationalist groups. Why are "white' crimes of violence worse than say a Mexican or Guatemalan rape and murder of innocents?

On Trump's racism his quote: they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists, and some I suppose are good people.

Note here, he won't even admit most are law abiding, instead he says "some" may be good, he won't even "some" are good.

Just a FYI... that is not a racist statement. It is a fact that illegal immigrants are bringing drugs across the border. It's a fact that MS13 and other illegal gangs are terrorizing American neighbourhoods, raping an killing for sport. Can you give me one quote that Trump is against allowing legal immigration? Or allowing 1.8 million DACA's to earn a path to citizenship? Far more, btw, than Trumps predecessor was allowing.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Hi ECR,

I wouldn't have a problem with that. How about you bring up the racist ideologies that you're referring to and we can discuss them one by one on point? What other racist ideologies do you see exemplified within the elected participants of our government?

God bless,
In Christ, ted

I didn't see the point by point ideologies if white supremacists mentioned by the OP.... why is my mentioning of other racist groups need more clarification than the OP was giving?

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Seems to me the agenda is about anyone who's racist. And anyone of any race can be racist, it's not limited to Caucasians...or religions for that matter. Personally, I don't have a problem with people who advocate for their own, whether it's religion, race, sex or sexual orientation. Apparently, tulc does have a problem with people who love their skin color.

Bottom line, there are A-holes in every community.... interesting it's only the white A-holes that get singled out.

 

[miamited]

I didn't see the point by point ideologies if white supremacists mentioned by the OP.... why is my mentioning of other racist groups need more clarification than the OP was giving?

Hi ECR,

Well, basically because I've seen the damage done by 'white supremacy'. These other types that you mention, I'm honestly not much aware of. I've seen the pictures of black men and children and women hanging from trees. The slaughter of thousands of Native Americans. So, I'm just curious if you can support your claim with any facts since I don't personally know of a lot of them. However, you're free to refuse to answer my question on the grounds that the OP didn't give any examples. Thank you.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

 

[tulc]

I didn't see the point by point ideologies if white supremacists mentioned by the OP.... why is my mentioning of other racist groups need more clarification than the OP was giving?

Because the point of the thread is pretty much summed up in the Headline:

All The White Supremacists Running For Office In 2018

if those other groups are white supremacists running for office in 2018 then feel free to discuss them, if however you want to discuss groups/people that aren't "white supremacists running for office in 2018" then this thread isn't about them. You can however quite easily start another thread where those groups/people can be discussed.
tulc(isn't sure why this is such a problem)

 

[miamited]

Bottom line, there are A-holes in every community.... interesting it's only the white A-holes that get singled out.

Hi ECR,

I'm glad that you do at least recognize the people we're talking about as being 'white A-holes'.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Hi ROJ,

Yes, I understand that there are other racially motivated groups living in the world. However, my question was specifically directed to a concern of our elected officials. What evidence do you have that any of them are supporting or practicing the ideology of these other groups that you've mentioned. Could you direct me to some information concerning the Mexican supremacy, what they believe and practice? Or the black supremacy? Does La Raza teach and believe that they are better than everyone else. It just seems to me that you're just identifying certain, what might be called hate groups. However, hating people isn't necessarily a position of proclaiming that the hater is better than the group that they hate. They just don't like those other folks.

Many white supremacists believe the ideology of Adolph Hitler. That white European people are a better class of people than other races. I'm looking for a similar type of ideology among other racial or national groups. Quite frankly, black people in this country, having had to sit through the 'history' of slavery in the United States; and experiencing, many of them, the plight of inner city blight, have a pretty good case for being angry with a lot of white people. I would think that any white person who could say with any honesty that black people have the same opportunities for a good education and a happy healthy family environment, probably live under a rock.

My wife has a friend who has no qualms in calling people of color the n word. I used to work with a man who was vehemently prejudiced. He once embarrassed me in a McDonald's loudly spouting off for all to hear that his children weren't going to grow up working in a McDonalds like all the N. Friend, these people are out there and when they do have to interact with black people they treat them differently than they do similar white people that they might have to deal with in life. Sure, you and I may be accepting and strive for racial equality, but there are a lot of people who are like my two examples. Black people and black children have to live with this reality.

The same can be said for Native Americans. Now, if we don't live with a large Native American population nearby, then we likely don't see their plight, but if one lives near a reservation of Native Americans, there are people within those cities that still vent their hate and disgust for that group of people for no other reason than they are Native Americans. Mexicans have the same problem in this country. Cubans and Latinos also experience a lot of prejudice. But, for the size of the group and volume of racial unfairness, black people have these other groups beat hands do.

Racial inequality is still a fairly large issue in this country and if you're born black, then you're likely going to have to deal with some of that from time to time and such treatment of a human being can certainly engender attitudes of distrust and dislike for white people as a whole just as many white people dislike and distrust black people as a whole, based on nothing more than the color of their skin.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

Have you ever listened to an anti white rap record? Have you ever been in a community with three First nations reserves surrounding it and subjected to their hateful racist remarks towards whites? I did when I was a teenager. What do you think you would be called if you wandered into a Latino neighbourhood in LA? Do you think you might not make it out without hospitalization?
Wake up Ted, racism is not a white only problem.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Because the point of the thread is pretty much summed up in the Headline:

if those other groups are white supremacists running for office in 2018 then feel free to discuss them, if however you want to discuss groups/people that aren't "white supremacists running for office in 2018" then this thread isn't about them. You can however quite easily start another thread where those groups/people can be discussed.
tulc(isn't sure why this is such a problem)

So, we will just discuss one facet of a multifaceted problem? Sounds like an echo chamber if you ask me.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Hi ECR,

I'm glad that you do at least recognize the people we're talking about as being 'white A-holes'.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

News flash, they exist in every ethnic group... so why the need to single out the whites? Here's a clue... it is to demonize all things white and to induce white guilt so that the minorities can demand "rights" they want to deny to the ones they are against.

 

[miamited]

Hi ECR,

You get to practice what you believe God is asking of you in the way that you understand the Scriptures. I'll practice what I believe that God is asking of me in the way that I understand the Scriptures.

Yes, God held Israel as special over all the other nations of the earth, but that's it, and there was a certain purpose in that. As far as all the other nations of the world, I don't find in the Scriptures any indication that God sees people in Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras or anywhere else as particularly different from one another. Israel is the only nation of the world for which God holds out any special dispensation. Even among Isreal, He allows that not all of Israel are His people.

I believe that God asks us to love our neighbors. I don't read that as meaning just the guy that lives next door to me. The account of the Samaritan who was beaten on the road wasn't a next door neighbor of any of those people who passed him by. God asks His children to live differently than the world. To be apart from and holy before them. I believe that God wants His children to care for everyone. To be mindful and concerned for the Mexican who is trying to provide better for his family than he thinks he can do in his birth country. We're a rich, rich nation and yet we are so very, very poor in our concern for others. We'd rather spend our billions and billions on making a great war machine. Do you honestly think that's in keeping with God's desire for His children? That He wants us to be more concerned about bombs and guns than people?

Let the world live as it will, but the Scriptures tell us, the children of God, that we aren't to live like them. So, I rather expect this kind of thinking that you propose when I'm over on the open boards, but over here on the 'I'm a child of God' boards, I was rather expecting that it would be different.

Maybe that's what Jesus was talking about to his disciples when he spoke of all those christians who did great and mighty works in his name, and yet he didn't know them. Jesus said that it's easy to love those who love us and that it was what the pagans did. The hard part of being a child of God is to love the least. To love those that we so much want to not love.

God bless you,
In Christ, ted

 

[miamited]

Have you ever listened to an anti white rap record? Have you ever been in a community with three First nations reserves surrounding it and subjected to their hateful racist remarks towards whites? I did when I was a teenager. What do you think you would be called if you wandered into a Latino neighbourhood in LA? Do you think you might not make it out without hospitalization?
Wake up Ted, racism is not a white only problem.

Hi ECR,

Friend, I lived in South Florida. I'm well aware of the problems of living in a predominantly Latin community. But I'm not supposed to return evil for evil. No, I never feared not making it out of any neighborhood except through a hospital. I have God on my side. Nothing is going to happen to me that He hasn't approved. I may be beaten and I may be killed, but that doesn't give me some right to promote an agenda of fear. If I'm beaten I expect I'll recover and if I'm killed, I know I will. This place is not my home!!!!!

I've even walked through liberty city in the middle of the night and didn't feel any fear. I worked as a telephone repairman for the phone company and when some other employee living in fear would get a job in a place that he was afraid to go, I'd tell him to give me the job and I'd go. There were places that we were warned about going, but I never feared going in any of them. Yes, I'd be sure to lock up my truck because I knew that things could well be stolen, but that's only stuff. I honestly cannot recall ever walking or working in a neighborhood where I felt in fear for my life. I always wore a big smile and tried to be as friendly as I could be under such circumstances. Trust me, I've worked in places that many would be fearful of going to, but I've never felt that fear for myself.

God bless you,
In Christ, ted

 

[miamited]

News flash, they exist in every ethnic group... so why the need to single out the whites? Here's a clue... it is to demonize all things white and to induce white guilt so that the minorities can demand "rights" they want to deny to the ones they are against.

Hi ECR,

Well, you're free to believe and practice your faith in whatever way seems right to you.

God bless,
In Christ, ted