Aleister Crowley

[wannabeadesigirl]

My new favorite thread. Reading it was such a hoot. Going from Aleister Crowley to Jay-z being in the Illuminati, to the NWO, to Zombie Cats and now Johnny Todd.... Add some David Icke Lizard People and Ancient Aliens, and I believe we will have perhaps the most bestest thread of ALL TIME.

Dr. Who has lizard people. Wait. Holy cow I've done it in one post! I've covered an ancient Alien...and lizard people!

Let's hear no more about it, and continue debating crowley.

Crowley was a creep, there's no mistaking that. I genuinely believe that towards the middle of the 19th century to the turn of the 20th was a genuinely screwed up era that allowed for alot of spiritual misleading, and man depending on their own understanding.


However I do want to bring to mind the fact that the creator of the world that so many know to be under the power of our adversary has won. There's no denying it: God has triumphed. It's not like he's in an eternal chess game with Satan. No...that's Zoroastrian thinking.

Chessmate has already been called with Christ's death and Resurrection. So any amount of occultic thinking, symbolism, or blatantly anti-christian sentiment from loud mouthed windbags like Crowley is simply the attempt of our already defeated enemy trying to draw our attention from God.

The more attention we give his nonsense the less we can pay attention to what God put us here for. Remember the Psalmist asked "Why do the nations rage?" The raging we see in so many countries is the futile anger of our enemy: Pointless and pathetic.

So the best thing we can do is acknowledge that it's there, and instead of freaking out over it try and counteract by educating ourselves and others with solid factual evidence...not bored, fear mongerers.


And I'm not sure what Rock music has to do with church, since CCR isn't really rock. Either way I'm pretty sure God gave us syncopation and a sense of rythm beyond 2/4

 

[tulc]

Dr. Who has lizard people. Wait. Holy cow I've done it in one post! I've covered an ancient Alien...and lizard people!

Let's hear no more about it, and continue debating crowley.

Crowley was a creep, there's no mistaking that. I genuinely believe that towards the middle of the 19th century to the turn of the 20th was a genuinely screwed up era that allowed for alot of spiritual misleading, and man depending on their own understanding.


However I do want to bring to mind the fact that the creator of the world that so many know to be under the power of our adversary has won. There's no denying it: God has triumphed. It's not like he's in an eternal chess game with Satan. No...that's Zoroastrian thinking.

Chessmate has already been called with Christ's death and Resurrection. So any amount of occultic thinking, symbolism, or blatantly anti-christian sentiment from loud mouthed windbags like Crowley is simply the attempt of our already defeated enemy trying to draw our attention from God.

The more attention we give his nonsense the less we can pay attention to what God put us here for. Remember the Psalmist asked "Why do the nations rage?" The raging we see in so many countries is the futile anger of our enemy: Pointless and pathetic.

So the best thing we can do is acknowledge that it's there, and instead of freaking out over it try and counteract by educating ourselves and others with solid factual evidence...not bored, fear mongerers.


And I'm not sure what Rock music has to do with church, since CCR isn't really rock. Either way I'm pretty sure God gave us syncopation and a sense of rythm beyond 2/4 (emph, added)

Oh, I don't know these guys used to play in my Church every Sunday. This was one of their softer songs.
‪Rez Band - Military Man (Live 1992)‬‏ - YouTube
Glenn (lead singer) and Johnny (drummer) are still 2 of my pastors.
tulc(has had a lot of different music played in his Church including Tuvan blues!)

 

[prophecyistrue]

There's that statement again. You might want to think about what it means when you say that.
Been here?
John Todd (occultist) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
tulc(just curious)

Actually I understand very well what I'm saying, what your saying is Johnny Todd is a liar, what I'm saying is even if all he said about his involvment in the occult and Illuminati is made up, it doesn't change the fact that it exist and what its doing, It would be the same as if I said I was a kingpin in the mob, I had all sorts of people working for me, selling drugs, paying off cops, doing all sorts of illegal activity. NOW if I was lying and making up my alleged connection to the mob. How does that in any way shape or form take away from their actually being a real and existing mafia.........IT DOESN'T! the mafia really does exist, same as the Illuminati, and CIA, and the FBI.......of course the head of the FBI years ago said the mafia doesn't exist, then we found out he was a liar

 

[tulc]

Actually I understand very well what I'm saying, what your saying is Johnny Todd is a liar, what I'm saying is even if all he said about his involvment in the occult and Illuminati is made up, it doesn't change the fact that it exist and what its doing, It would be the same as if I said I was a kingpin in the mob, I had all sorts of people working for me, selling drugs, paying off cops, doing all sorts of illegal activity. NOW if I was lying and making up my alleged connection to the mob. How does that in any way shape or form take away from their actually being a real and existing mafia.........IT DOESN'T! the mafia really does exist, same as the Illuminati, and CIA, and the FBI.......of course the head of the FBI years ago said the mafia doesn't exist, then we found out he was a liar

Except the only proof of this vast conspiracy is his say so and so far the only proof presented is he's a liar. A more accurate comparison would be him saying "I was born on Mars!" yet every shred of evidence that can be found proves he was born right here on Earth. His mom, his dad, the doctors the nurses hospital records birth certificate, even a video of the birth, every bit of it prove he was born right here on Earth. The ONLY thing saying he was born on Mars is him. And he lies. So you saying "Well I know he lies but that doesn't mean it's not true!" Sort of means you don't really care what's real, you prefer the lie over the truth.
tulc(suspects even you know it's not real)

 

[prophecyistrue]

Except the only proof of this vast conspiracy is his say so and so far the only proof presented is he's a liar. A more accurate comparison would be him saying "I was born on Mars!" yet every shred of evidence that can be found proves he was born right here on Earth. His mom, his dad, the doctors the nurses hospital records birth certificate, even a video of the birth, every bit of it prove he was born right here on Earth. The ONLY thing saying he was born on Mars is him. And he lies. So you saying "Well I know he lies but that doesn't mean it's not true!" Sort of means you don't really care what's real, you prefer the lie over the truth.
tulc(suspects even you know it's not real)

You are under the impression that Johnny Todd is the only source of evidence that the illuminati exist?!!!!!......ha ha ha that is really funny!.....Ahh! OK Tulc if thats what you aahhh think?

 

[tulc]

You are under the impression that Johnny Todd is the only source of evidence that the illuminati exist?!!!!!......ha ha ha that is really funny!.....Ahh! OK Tulc if thats what you aahhh think?

Why not present it then?
tulc(wonders why if you had other proof you bothered with the one already discredited?)

 

[gracechick]

I frequently wonder the same thing.

Also, if the illuminati/freemasons/conspiracy patsy du jour is so all powerful and efficient that they can run the NWO without leaving any traces, why are they incapable of getting the tin foil hat brigade removed from the net? If 4chan and anonymous can hack and close down people they don't like's websites, you'd think the all powerful NWO would be able to do it to.

Awww but that would take all the fun out of it for most people Ignoring redflags and flogging the flag bearer.

 

[revanneosl]

Do you suppose that Warnke & Todd figured out the same scam simultaneously, or were they part of some kind of "bilk gullible Christians" conspiracy?

 

[tulc]

Do you suppose that Warnke & Todd figured out the same scam simultaneously, or were they part of some kind of "bilk gullible Christians" conspiracy?

I suspect Warnke and Todd came from very different angles Todd (from what I can see) is a seriously sick man. Warnke though, he strikes me as a guy who started out just "making the story a little more interesting" and got caught up in his own hype till it all just collapsed under the lies.
tulc(both were wrong of course)

 

[56Bluesman]

You gotta love how the eschatology by comic book and YouTube crowd takes over these threads. It's why public forums are such fun. I've done a lot of research in regards to the occult and new age religions for years, but when you come across lies and bunk you have to call out lies and nonsense for what they are. Jack Chick, God bless him, as I don't question his faith in Christ, is one very deluded man in many regards. Whoops, by the way Mike Warnke was also called out by Cornerstone magazine for being an absolute fraud. His book ' The Satan Seller ' is a fictional biography he got by with for many years until his lies were exposed.

 

[wannabeadesigirl]

Oh, I don't know these guys used to play in my Church every Sunday. This was one of their softer songs.
‪Rez Band - Military Man (Live 1992)‬‏ - YouTube
Glenn (lead singer) and Johnny (drummer) are still 2 of my pastors.
tulc(has had a lot of different music played in his Church including Tuvan blues!)

*gasP* that's too hard of rock! Your church is doomed

Sorry back on topic.

 

[tulc]

*gasP* that's too hard of rock! Your church is doomed

Well...we like to think so!

Sorry back on topic.

Oh right! Uhmmm Alister Crowley wasn't he in the Stooges?

tulc(may be thinking about someone else?)
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