Alcoholics and Addicts Discussion/Support Thread

[LoG]

@ SOTK, If drinking to excess is a sin issue, not as a result of the disease of alcoholism and you now have complete freedom, does that mean you can now have a few glasses of wine at dinner if you so desire?

 

[AngelDove1]

Hey Blondie

Wow! I can't believe how quickly you found me after joining this board! Must be that somebody wants us to meet eh? Hmmmm.... now who could that be?.........

YOu are going to LOVE this place. Today is actually my second year anniversary of joining CF and I have gotten so much out of it. I joined as a 6 month old Christian and I have grown so much because of the other believers here and all the information and stories and encouragement!

I haven't really ever come across another woman who has been in the industry (on THIS board, that is) yet, so it is GREAT to have someone else to relate to.
You know, it's funny, I know I was addicted to substances and I know I have missed the constant praise about how I looked but I never really thought of it as an addiction until just now. I sometimes think I miss that the most.

Let's please keep in touch, I'm sure we can help each other!!!!

Warm welcome..............

BlondeLashes, this is a cool place,God makes no mistakes.
Enjoy yourself.

Shalom

 

[AngelDove1]

@ SOTK, If drinking to excess is a sin issue, not as a result of the disease of alcoholism and you now have complete freedom, does that mean you can now have a few glasses of wine at dinner if you so desire?

Hi Lion of God.....

If your a recovering AA...you should not have any alcohol.

this is called A SLIP....

But if your not an alcoholic recovering....its ok to have a couple,keeping in mind never to over indulge.
Your body is a temple of the Lord's.

 

[stelow]

Okay. I don't deny that quitting a sin issue like this is easy. It is not- far from it! However, we either quit or we don't. If you keep drinking, logic dictates that you want to keep drinking. If you truly want to quit, than quit! Yes, you will need some major assistance in this endeavor! You will need help from God, possibly medical assistance, family, friends, and others who understand what you are going through. Make no mistake though! The choice is yours.

I will be praying for you!

Major assistance what is that. I have quit 4 days now with no outside help except for a few posts here. No one can help me quit, l have made the decision to quit with no turning back. I still feel on edge and ready to snap at people.

 

[stelow]

Hope these verses can be an eye opener to someone they were to me.

[Psalm 107:10-16]

“10Such as sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, being bound in affliction and iron;

11Because they rebelled against the words of God, and contemned the counsel of the most High:

12Therefore he brought down their heart with labour; they fell down, and there was none to help.

13Then they cried unto the LORD in their trouble, and he saved them out of their distresses.

14He brought them out of darkness and the shadow of death, and brake their bands in sunder.

15Oh that men would praise the LORD for his goodness, and for his wonderful works to the children of men!

16For he hath broken the gates of brass, and cut the bars of iron in sunder.”

 

[SOTK]

@ SOTK, If drinking to excess is a sin issue, not as a result of the disease of alcoholism and you now have complete freedom, does that mean you can now have a few glasses of wine at dinner if you so desire?

Dead to Sin, Alive to God

Romans 6:1-14

1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? 2 Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? 3 Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

5 For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, 6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. 7 For he who has died has been freed from sin. 8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, 9 knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him. 10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. 11 Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts. 13 And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. 14 For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.

(Bold emphasis added by me)

Since drunkeness is a sin and my flesh is drawn to this particular sin more so than others, I choose to walk "in the newness of life". Drinking any alcoholic beverage at all would be letting "sin reign in my mortal body" and I would more than likely "obey in its lusts".

Some Christians who have a problem with sexual immorality avoid rated "R" movies, certain types of music, and some do not watch T.V. at all so that they are "walking in the newness of life".

So, no, I do not drink alcohol at all and never will again. I am a Child of God who is supposed to Walk in the Spirit.

 

[SOTK]

Major assistance what is that. I have quit 4 days now with no outside help except for a few posts here. No one can help me quit, l have made the decision to quit with no turning back. I still feel on edge and ready to snap at people.

Major assistance is help and/or support. It is biblical to have a mentor- one who helps you to recognize your potential in furthering God's kingdom as well as a person that holds you accountable. It is also biblical to confess to each other as brothers and sisters in Christ.

When I quit drinking, I had many people in my life who knew what I was going through, what I needed, and what I didn't need. I also had a mentor who held me accountable as well as helped me on my spiritual journey. Make sense?

Your irritability is normal and will pass. It helps to talk about this with other people who understand what you are going through.

 

[stelow]

Major assistance is help and/or support. It is biblical to have a mentor- one who helps you to recognize your potential in furthering God's kingdom as well as a person that holds you accountable. It is also biblical to confess to each other as brothers and sisters in Christ.

When I quit drinking, I had many people in my life who knew what I was going through, what I needed, and what I didn't need. I also had a mentor who held me accountable as well as helped me on my spiritual journey. Make sense?

Your irritability is normal and will pass. It helps to talk about this with other people who understand what you are going through.

I am almost twice your age and because of the length of time of my abusive life style friends and family are not a option for me. I have one male friend who is not a christian and my two sons 21 and 17 years old and that's it and my oldest son is an abuser.

 

[LoG]

@ Stelow- Have you considered AA meetings? Good support structure from people who know the difficulties and challenges of staying sober personally. Through the 12 Steps one learns what are triggers and areas of weakness that can lead to relapse. When these areas are not dealt with, restlesness, irritability and discontentment will usually result in one becoming a "dry drunk". Alcohol and drugs aren't the problem but symptoms of deeper issues. Through the fellowship the journey to staying clean and sober will become a pleasure rather than a sentence to be endured.

 

[johnnieboy]

I have gone through a book/cd that really gave me some great directions that led me to a dependence on Christ that I believe many of you who are struggling with addictions of any sort might find useful.

the book is called "victory over depression" by Bob George.
you can get at some christian book stores or at realanswers.net, it comes in book form and on 5 mp3 cds. Its great for people who "don't have any problems (lol)" too.

The name indicates that it deals with depression, but it has a concept that I think really deals with why we end up in a thinking mode that causes us to give in to the flesh.

1. Having unrealistic expectations - that is believing that we can find unconditional love and acceptance from people, this can lead to a constant cycle of a sense of rejection, since no one can provide this except God.

2. Misplaced dependencies - depending on anything other than God for meaning and purpose in life will lead us to be suceptible to placing our dependencies on anything that comes along that gives us what we "need", but in a destructive way.

3. Identity is developed by what we depend on, what gives us meaning and purpose.

I once heard somone say (I think it was Ravi Zacharias) that the things that you really believe in are the things that you will devote your life to. I think that is why so many people's faith is to wavering, they don't really believe that God can take care of their needs, they may say they do, but deep down there is some sense of distrust or doubt that causes them to waver. I came to see that was the case with me, and I have really been looking at God in a new light lately, finding Him sufficient for all my needs.
The more I see His strength, and recognize my weakness, the more I've come to see how good He is at meeting my needs. I can place no credit in my self for the sucesses that have come in the last year in loosing my dependency on all the destructive addictions (alcohol is only one of the things i have been dealing with)

 

[SOTK]

I have gone through a book/cd that really gave me some great directions that led me to a dependence on Christ that I believe many of you who are struggling with addictions of any sort might find useful.

the book is called "victory over depression" by Bob George.
you can get at some christian book stores or at realanswers.net, it comes in book form and on 5 mp3 cds. Its great for people who "don't have any problems (lol)" too.

The name indicates that it deals with depression, but it has a concept that I think really deals with why we end up in a thinking mode that causes us to give in to the flesh.

1. Having unrealistic expectations - that is believing that we can find unconditional love and acceptance from people, this can lead to a constant cycle of a sense of rejection, since no one can provide this except God.

2. Misplaced dependencies - depending on anything other than God for meaning and purpose in life will lead us to be suceptible to placing our dependencies on anything that comes along that gives us what we "need", but in a destructive way.

3. Identity is developed by what we depend on, what gives us meaning and purpose.

I once heard somone say (I think it was Ravi Zacharias) that the things that you really believe in are the things that you will devote your life to. I think that is why so many people's faith is to wavering, they don't really believe that God can take care of their needs, they may say they do, but deep down there is some sense of distrust or doubt that causes them to waver. I came to see that was the case with me, and I have really been looking at God in a new light lately, finding Him sufficient for all my needs.
The more I see His strength, and recognize my weakness, the more I've come to see how good He is at meeting my needs. I can place no credit in my self for the sucesses that have come in the last year in loosing my dependency on all the destructive addictions (alcohol is only one of the things i have been dealing with)

Good stuff, johnnieboy!

 

[stelow]

@ Stelow- Have you considered AA meetings? Good support structure from people who know the difficulties and challenges of staying sober personally. Through the 12 Steps one learns what are triggers and areas of weakness that can lead to relapse. When these areas are not dealt with, restlesness, irritability and discontentment will usually result in one becoming a "dry drunk". Alcohol and drugs aren't the problem but symptoms of deeper issues. Through the fellowship the journey to staying clean and sober will become a pleasure rather than a sentence to be endured.

Yes I have endured a few sentencings from the Judge to attend AA meetings, I thought who are you kidding. It's just another lie, if you want to quit you can; enough said.

 

[cajunlady]

Yes I have endured a few sentencings from the Judge to attend AA meetings, I thought who are you kidding. It's just another lie, if you want to quit you can; enough said.

Hi stelow, How are you doing? I am still praying for you. May God bless you and keep you strong...

 

[MarkChristopher]

Yes I have endured a few sentencings from the Judge to attend AA meetings, I thought who are you kidding. It's just another lie, if you want to quit you can; enough said.

It is indeed very hard to quit Stelow. Probably one of the hardest things that I have had to deal with in my life. Besides just wanting to quit, people also have to take into consideration the mental and physical ability to quit as well.

Can eveyone just walk away? Of course not. Can people backslide...absolutely. I sense that deep inside youself, you really do want to become sober once and for all. I hope I am right on my hunch.

Hang in there!

God Bless!

 

[SOTK]

Happy Sunday, everybody!

 

[stelow]

Hi stelow, How are you doing? I am still praying for you. May God bless you and keep you strong...

Going good thanks, been sick with a sinus infection. God bless you cajunlady.

 

[stelow]

It is indeed very hard to quit Stelow. Probably one of the hardest things that I have had to deal with in my life. Besides just wanting to quit, people also have to take into consideration the mental and physical ability to quit as well.

Can eveyone just walk away? Of course not. Can people backslide...absolutely. I sense that deep inside youself, you really do want to become sober once and for all. I hope I am right on my hunch.

Hang in there!

God Bless!

Yes MarkChristopher your hunch is correct thanks.

 

[AngelDove1]

trudge ...
trudge...
trudge...
let out experiance,strenght and hope...
help others to sobrity...

pass it on...to keep...

 

[cajunlady]

Just checking in to see how everyone is doing..I hope all of you are doing great..

Stelow: How are you? I hope your sinus infection is better...God bless..Remember...One moment at a time...

 

[stelow]

Stelow: How are you? I hope your sinus infection is better...God bless..Remember...One moment at a time...

Hi cajunlady, feeling much better almost completely well. This was the 8th day of sobriety and I was still experiencing a lot of anger with the same short fuse. God bless you.