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Drinking is fine as long as its done in moderation. If you cause someone to stumble becuase of you drinking something. You need to look long and hard about something, talk with God, then come to a desicion. Don't be a stumbling block, but you have to decide and ask God where your responsibility ends and theirs begins. For example, because of this, I will NOT drink around or in front of certain people. not even a glass of wine.
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I guess I'll just leave it alone. Apparently I'm the only Christian here that see's drinking in the same light as drugs and that we're not as good of a witness with a beer in our hands.
That's okay, I stand firm on my stance and it's okay if people don't agree with me.
That's okay, I stand firm on my stance and it's okay if people don't agree with me.
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Yekcidmij asks...
Just wondering what people think about drinking alcohol. Is it morally wrong or is it OK ...etc..?
Eph writes...
Well MY answer...( of course ) ...is always gonna be based on WWJD and the Bible....so for that ya gotta go read MATT 11:19...or Luke 7:34...
Since ALL true Christians....want to be like Jesus...people that know us..should say this about us too...!
Just wondering what people think about drinking alcohol. Is it morally wrong or is it OK ...etc..?
Eph writes...
Well MY answer...( of course ) ...is always gonna be based on WWJD and the Bible....so for that ya gotta go read MATT 11:19...or Luke 7:34...
Since ALL true Christians....want to be like Jesus...people that know us..should say this about us too...!
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seangoh said
The bible uses the word wine, however it is a very general term which refers to unfermented and fermented grapejuice. It is best to do your own study on this issue and find out which kind of wine the Bible might have been referring to in each instance it is used. You would then know whether taking in alcohol is good or bad or ok in moderation.
A good way is way of finding out is the hebrew and greek translation of the word. You can compare verses which talk of "wine" and notice that it would be a different hebrew or greek word translation it uses.
A good article i suggest reading is [url=The bible uses the word wine, however it is a very general term which refers to unfermented and fermented grapejuice. It is best to do your own study on this issue and find out which kind of wine the Bible might have been referring to in each instance it is used. You would then know whether taking in alcohol is good or bad or ok in moderation.
Eph says...
Did you know that Jesus Christ..was a "moonshiner"...Thats right..!
He made a boat load of hooch to keep the party going...Just read JOHN 2:5:10...and I don't recall any tax being paid on it by him or them....do you...( if there was a tax on it of course )..
So...OUR Lord..is a MOONSHINER...he makes his own hooch for other people to drink...PLUS we know he liked a sample now and then because his "reputation" in the Bible...says he did....!
WOW...I worship a moonshiner...not a carpenter...Because NOWHERE does the Bible say Jesus was a carpenter...!
The bible uses the word wine, however it is a very general term which refers to unfermented and fermented grapejuice. It is best to do your own study on this issue and find out which kind of wine the Bible might have been referring to in each instance it is used. You would then know whether taking in alcohol is good or bad or ok in moderation.
A good way is way of finding out is the hebrew and greek translation of the word. You can compare verses which talk of "wine" and notice that it would be a different hebrew or greek word translation it uses.
A good article i suggest reading is [url=The bible uses the word wine, however it is a very general term which refers to unfermented and fermented grapejuice. It is best to do your own study on this issue and find out which kind of wine the Bible might have been referring to in each instance it is used. You would then know whether taking in alcohol is good or bad or ok in moderation.
Eph says...
Did you know that Jesus Christ..was a "moonshiner"...Thats right..!
He made a boat load of hooch to keep the party going...Just read JOHN 2:5:10...and I don't recall any tax being paid on it by him or them....do you...( if there was a tax on it of course )..
So...OUR Lord..is a MOONSHINER...he makes his own hooch for other people to drink...PLUS we know he liked a sample now and then because his "reputation" in the Bible...says he did....!
WOW...I worship a moonshiner...not a carpenter...Because NOWHERE does the Bible say Jesus was a carpenter...!
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slightlypuzzled said
On the one hand it is not a sin to drink in moderation, but we must also be very sensitive to our witness and what people will say about it. This calls for maturity and prayer and patience. [/B]
Eph says...
YOU are so right "slightly"..except we both need to sit down and decide WHAT moderation is..? at what point do we cross from OK moderation to NOT OK moderation...??
...Noah for example drank till passed out cold on the ground....!
Now I think personally thats a bit much ...BUT I can understand why he did...I mean ...YOU go live on a ark for over 300 odd days with a bunch of animals insects and birds...after the planets biggest rain storm EVER...and you might throw a few too many back also... just being happy your still around and lived through it all....!
...Not only that but we know GOD sure didn't mind Noah packin that load on..and passin out ....'Cause the FIRST thing Noah did when he staggered to his feet was Prophesy FOR God...He was STILL Gods spokesman...!
Hey God still used him..not only that God waited for Noah to come around so he could use em..!
So we really have our "work" cut out for us on this one..!
....I hope my little story opens some eyes here on this.. !
..OUR salvation isn't based on OUR ability to live perfect lives for Jesus....It's based on OUR faith that JESUS lived a perfect life and PAYED for all our shortfallings..( sins )...!
OUR ability to be a "gooder christian" than someone else..has NO bearing on our salvation...!
Personal FAITH in Jesus Christ does..whether you don't drink or do..whether you don't smoke or do...whether you wear bright clothes or dark..whether your tall or short..fat or skinny......Doesn't matter....!
We're gonna be JUDGED on whether we FAITHED Jesus Christ in this life...or didn't faith Jesus Christ..!
THATS the only standard...!
On the one hand it is not a sin to drink in moderation, but we must also be very sensitive to our witness and what people will say about it. This calls for maturity and prayer and patience. [/B]
Eph says...
YOU are so right "slightly"..except we both need to sit down and decide WHAT moderation is..? at what point do we cross from OK moderation to NOT OK moderation...??
...Noah for example drank till passed out cold on the ground....!
Now I think personally thats a bit much ...BUT I can understand why he did...I mean ...YOU go live on a ark for over 300 odd days with a bunch of animals insects and birds...after the planets biggest rain storm EVER...and you might throw a few too many back also... just being happy your still around and lived through it all....!
...Not only that but we know GOD sure didn't mind Noah packin that load on..and passin out ....'Cause the FIRST thing Noah did when he staggered to his feet was Prophesy FOR God...He was STILL Gods spokesman...!
Hey God still used him..not only that God waited for Noah to come around so he could use em..!
So we really have our "work" cut out for us on this one..!
....I hope my little story opens some eyes here on this.. !
..OUR salvation isn't based on OUR ability to live perfect lives for Jesus....It's based on OUR faith that JESUS lived a perfect life and PAYED for all our shortfallings..( sins )...!
OUR ability to be a "gooder christian" than someone else..has NO bearing on our salvation...!
Personal FAITH in Jesus Christ does..whether you don't drink or do..whether you don't smoke or do...whether you wear bright clothes or dark..whether your tall or short..fat or skinny......Doesn't matter....!
We're gonna be JUDGED on whether we FAITHED Jesus Christ in this life...or didn't faith Jesus Christ..!
THATS the only standard...!
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