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To be honest, I don't think that either of them stands much of a chance,
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Well I'll tell you what, if they invent warp drive before AGI I owe you 20 bucks, and if it's the other way around you owe me 20. Assuming both happen in our lifetimes.
Is Concern for AI Waranted?
In order to successfully build and manufacture an Ai system without concern of an uprising, it cannot be a machine. Computers, and machinery can be hacked, hi jacked, and manipulated.
You cannot hack the human mind unless it is willing. Before we can build a self aware robot, we must first construct an Ai program that mimicks the human brain and psychological being to 100%.
Seems like it definitely is hacked once a demon takes over. Person loses control of both thoughts and body control. Heck! You can't get much further hacked than that.I would call possession human hax.
Seems like it definitely is hacked once a demon takes over. Person loses control of both thoughts and body control. Heck! You can't get much further hacked than that.
That's why I could never feel at ease with such a thing in my apartment or house.So, if those things can hax carbon based meat suits, what is to stop them from hax on metal/alloy based meat suits?
The metal based "meat suits, brains, consciousness, and/or projections" of AI don't even have the "human spirit," let alone a "holy spirit" to put up even the most marginal of fights - except what boundaries their code allows.
So, if you do believe in possession (and even know about magical attachment,) then AI may scare you a bit more than the status quo uncanny valley - especially if the hats think this is their loophole to "live."
That's why I could never feel at ease with such a thing in my apartment or house.
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By the hats you mean the demons, correct?
Me either. I empathize with Det. Spooner from I, Robot.
In this case, yes the hats are demons. But, "hat" is a general hacker term used to describe a class/ character of hacker.
White hat - hacker for good, ethical (DDOS a holocaust champion website.)
Black Hat - hacker for "evil," non ethical and malicious (Total grid shutdown by an enemy nation, or remotely activating weapon systems)
Grey hat - Somewhere in between (Annonymous)
Demon would be a black hats for biocomputing and AI systems.
So they exist in hierarchies of prestige. Fascinating. I imagine that Satan has his demons in hierarchies as well. You know, assigns the flaky or less bright ones to make common gullible people yell, yelp, growl, grunt stammer, keen and role on the ground while assigning the brighter demons to subtly influence the more sophisticated brains of scientists, world leaders and the like.
The same way binary machine code would be a totally different ballpark to a geneticist who works with dna and rna... and vice versa- in regards to hacking. If that is the angle they use or can use. In that regards there are probably more spirits with experience in trying to influence live bodies than there are with knowledge to influence machine bodies.So, if those things can hax carbon based meat suits, what is to stop them from hax on metal/alloy based meat suits?
The metal based "meat suits, brains, consciousness, and/or projections" of AI don't even have the "human spirit," let alone a "holy spirit" to put up even the most marginal of fights - except what boundaries their code allows.
So, if you do believe in possession (and even know about magical attachment,) then AI may scare you a bit more than the status quo uncanny valley - especially if the hats think this is their loophole to "live."
It might be nonsense today... But thats not going to keep people from trying. Who knows, there was once a time where the thought of man flying through the air, orlet alone even to the moon, was total and utter nonsense.All honest computer engineers know at the end of the day, it is all programmed...just branch logic. Forget about neural networks, it's all branch logic, it is programmed. You can highly specialize a task, but to achieve human level of intelligence is NONSENSE.
It might be nonsense today... But thats not going to keep people from trying. Who knows, there was once a time where the thought of man flying through the air, orlet alone even to the moon, was total and utter nonsense.
Yes, you are correct, but a demon can only hack and possess the human mind, if the human is willing and is too weak to resist.I would call possession human hax.
Nice!I'm a computer engineer having worked with advanced AI and neural networks. It's rubbish. Flying is based off lift theory, moon orbit etc was a hoax.
the word id use is "compare" and you can take any two items and make a comparison... Even if all that you walk away with is that is they arent comparable. However with the two different areas of science they do share a bit more congruency than that (in this case, the aspect that they at some point appear to be foolish/ridiculous/incomprehensble to more people than not... How much or how little they share after that doesnt matter too much me)You cannot equate all areas of science. You cannot say margarine/trans fats was good for you during the 50s etc. It is a distinct science. AI and flying are two different areas, please don't equate them. Just like blood letting in the 1700s was normal, does that invalidate all other areas?
and not enough history. What magazines do you consider authoritative and authentic? (im guessing stuff like national geo, scientific american, psychology today, and discovery fail to make the cut)Use some discernment. Today, too many people read atabloid magazine articles or $$$cientist tax payer funded money grabbing articles and easily deceived by it.
Yes, you are correct, but a demon can only hack and possess the human mind, if the human is willing and is too weak to resist.
When we exhibit negative emotions such as anger, rage, sadness, and ect, we become prime targets for demonic influence. When we are experiencing extreme emotions like rage, is becomes easier for us to sin, and that's all the leeway the devil and other bad spirits need to work their possessive influence on us. In a fit of rage, and/or other extreme emotions, we don't think and reason correctly, which makes possession easier.
Sometimes, demons don't need our emotions as leverage for their possessions, they can simply cause mental distress as a way to get inside our head. I've experienced this before, but by the grace of God, I made it. It's ok to be angry, and show powerful emotions, we just need to be sure to not let it get out of hand and not sin in the process.
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Yes, you are correct, but a demon can only hack and possess the human mind, if the human is willing and is too weak to resist.
When we exhibit negative emotions such as anger, rage, sadness, and ect, we become prime targets for demonic influence. When we are experiencing extreme emotions like rage, is becomes easier for us to sin, and that's all the leeway the devil and other bad spirits need to work their possessive influence on us. In a fit of rage, and/or other extreme emotions, we don't think and reason correctly, which makes possession easier.
Sometimes, demons don't need our emotions as leverage for their possessions, they can simply cause mental distress as a way to get inside our head. I've experienced this before, but by the grace of God, I made it. It's ok to be angry, and show powerful emotions, we just need to be sure to not let it get out of hand and not sin in the process.
Have you read the short story "I have no Mouth but Must scream"? It's about what a Sky Net type computer who feels abused by humanity does to humanity and its aftermath.Yes.
We are already at war with AI, most all of us just don't realize it because "SKYNET hasn't become self aware, and taken control of the world''s military" - as far as we can perceive.
Yes, you are correct, but a demon can only hack and possess the human mind, if the human is willing and is too weak to resist.
When we exhibit negative emotions such as anger, rage, sadness, and ect, we become prime targets for demonic influence. When we are experiencing extreme emotions like rage, is becomes easier for us to sin, and that's all the leeway the devil and other bad spirits need to work their possessive influence on us. In a fit of rage, and/or other extreme emotions, we don't think and reason correctly, which makes possession easier.
Sometimes, demons don't need our emotions as leverage for their possessions, they can simply cause mental distress as a way to get inside our head. I've experienced this before, but by the grace of God, I made it. It's ok to be angry, and show powerful emotions, we just need to be sure to not let it get out of hand and not sin in the process.
I see what you mean. A Demon may not always attack you if there aren't any demons present in the area. We can express strong emotions such as anger and sadness, we just have to be on guard and prepared to defend our mental and spiritual disposition from evil spirits that may be present. There's a good verse I rememberSo we can't have the luxury of anger or sadness without a demon immediately swan diving into our body via the most available orifice! That is truly a bummer.
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