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Age of the Dinosaurs

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DarthNorden

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I am sure this has been discussed time and time again, but I am new so hear me out. There are things about the bible that have bothered me for some time now. The main thing is the issue of Earth's creation. Nowhere in the bible does it mention creatures such as Dinosaurs. Nor does it mention the Ice Age and beings from that time period. Science has proven though that Man and creature exsisted WELL BEFORE the time of Adam and Eve. Everyday more fossils are being unearthed, and new species discovered. So why aren't they mentioned in the bible? I have more questions, but I will leave it at that one for now......
 

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DarthNorden said:
I am sure this has been discussed time and time again, but I am new so hear me out. There are things about the bible that have bothered me for some time now. The main thing is the issue of Earth's creation. Nowhere in the bible does it mention creatures such as Dinosaurs. Nor does it mention the Ice Age and beings from that time period. Science has proven though that Man and creature exsisted WELL BEFORE the time of Adam and Eve. Everyday more fossils are being unearthed, and new species discovered. So why aren't they mentioned in the bible? I have more questions, but I will leave it at that one for now......

Because the Bible is not a paleontological text book.
 
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GodisMerciful said:
Job 40:15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. behemoth: an extinct animal of some kind

But not a dinosaur. This is silliness, dinosaurs did not inhabit the Earth whilst humanity has.
 
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mixin machine said:
Many Africans have a different opinion, many sightings have happened.

You might want to research this a little better. From what I understand none of these sightings occurred until some French guy showed up wanting to know such things. Then for certain gifts the sightings started being recounted. Hmmm.

Plus this is the 21st century. Hiding a new species of mouse is one thing, hiding small sauropods is impossible. There is no place on the Earth where something like this could remain hidden these days. Too many aerial photos, satellite images, expeditions, local peoples, oil and mineral companies etc etc etc.
 
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So far nobody has really had a valid point to my question. According to Genesis The Earth was formed in 6 days (on the 7th days he rested). Then Adam was created, followed by Eve. And it continues from there. Nowhere following that does it mention Creatures such as what we refer to as Dinosaurs. Nor does it mention any human races from a prehistoric era. Although we have unearthed Human remains and fossils that are believed to date back BEFORE Adam and Eve.
 
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DarthNorden said:
So far nobody has really had a valid point to my question.

Are you sure you're not just discounting everything you don't like as 'not valid' ?

DarthNorden said:
According to Genesis The Earth was formed in 6 days (on the 7th days he rested).

Right.

DarthNorden said:
Then Adam was created, followed by Eve.

Wrong. Adam was made of the dust of the ground on the sixth day. Eve, from his rib, the same day.

DarthNorden said:
And it continues from there.

Err.. no... if 'there' is the sixth day, it is where it (creation) ended, not where it continued from. The seventh day, as you say, was of rest.

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Nowhere following that does it mention Creatures such as what we refer to as Dinosaurs.

Not specifically - but then, it is not specifically telling us each and every creature God called on the sea and the earth to bring forth... it doesn't say 'duck' either, but it is included with the fowl. What are dinosaurs but lizards?

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Nor does it mention any human races from a prehistoric era.

Since it does not describe a 'prehistoric era', of course... not everyone agrees with your view of 'human races from a prehistoric era'. Prehistoric has got to be one of the most amusing terms, by the way.

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Although we have unearthed Human remains and fossils that are believed to date back BEFORE Adam and Eve.

Well, now, that is too broad a 'we' - and 'believed to date' is a key part of that sentence. Not everyone believes so.
 
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Darth,

If I might put it slightly less polemically than the other person on this question, I'd answer yout his way:

The book of Genesis actually has a lot that doesn't line up with science. For example, it contains the common Ancient Near Eastern concept of waters above a domed sky and waters below the earth:

And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

This idea of a firmament with the waters above and below is found in other Ancient Near Eastern Literature which gives us more information about it. The sky = the firmament, and is a solid dome stretched over us. Above it are the waters which, when the firmament opens, flood through as rain (or other precipitation). You can also see that there are "waters below" (ie the earth). This is WHY the expression is put this way later in Genesis:

In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

The word "deep" there is the word for the abyss in hebrew, a primeval ocean that is under our feet. You see, in Ancient Near Eastern thought, the ground was actually on top of an ocean, held up on pillars at the shore. Thus Jonah 2.6:

I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.

I don't have time to finish bringing this full circle. But what I hope you are realising is that we are not talking about a book that is meant to be scientific. Science as we know it did not exist and did not matter to Moses or the Hebrews; that was not God's purpose in inspiring Genesis. What was God's purpose? To show in the beginning that it was GOD who created the heavens and the earth -- not El or any of the others of the Canaanite and Egyptian Pantheons.
 
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DarthNorden said:
So far nobody has really had a valid point to my question. According to Genesis The Earth was formed in 6 days (on the 7th days he rested). Then Adam was created, followed by Eve. And it continues from there. Nowhere following that does it mention Creatures such as what we refer to as Dinosaurs. Nor does it mention any human races from a prehistoric era. Although we have unearthed Human remains and fossils that are believed to date back BEFORE Adam and Eve.

Why do you think they ought to be mentioned in the bible? The bible is not an encyclopedia aiming to mention everything that exists or has existed. Lots of things that exist or have existed are not mentioned in the bible.

Over and above that, the writers of the bible didn't know that either dinosaurs or pre-sapiens humans had ever existed, so they didn't take them into account when writing the scriptures. How can you talk about something you never heard of?
 
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1st, scientists and their dating many times prove themselves wrong, it's a natural part of learning. They never thought any animal could use a tool except monkeys and apes but are now proving other animals do, birds for instance. Prehistoric man has really never been proved. Skulls of human looking type creatures isn't necessarily a man, it could have been a more intelligent type of ape that disappeared along with the dinosaurs. Whatever you might want to call that "creature" I guess God didn't call it a human. The humans God created looked like us and were intelligent. The Bible is written for the humans that God created, starting with Adam and Eve. The bible doesn't say there couldn't have been anything going on before what the bible talks about. The earth itself could have existed any amount of time with creatures such as dinosaurs before Adam and Eve came on the scene. Genesis 1:1 says In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Verse 2 - And the earth was without form, and void; darkness was upon the face of the deep. Was it always that way or had it become that way? It doesn't say because that's not what the bible is about. How long before he created Adam then Eve? Don't know. There are some references to a possible "time of old" in the bible, I think in Job but I don't know which scriptures right off hand.

There has been a debate over the creation story with tons of really smart people on both sides never convincing each other. I know scientist have "proven" that we all have a common mother, that might be Eve? Of course 20 years from now or sooner they could change their mind again. It's all the process of learning and doing the best to figure things out with what we know.
 
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DarthNorden said:
Nowhere in the bible does it mention creatures such as Dinosaurs.

FWIW, the Bible does mention creatures such as Giants.

Numbers 13:33
And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

See also Genesis 6:4
 
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artybloke said:
And your paleontological evidence for the existence of these giant people is? Clutching at straws, man, clutching at straws.

What do you mean, "clutching at straws"? I only said the Bible mentions giants; what could possibly be wrong with that?

Methinks you are reading things in my words that aren't there.
 
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So far nobody has really had a valid point to my question. According to Genesis The Earth was formed in 6 days (on the 7th days he rested). Then Adam was created, followed by Eve. And it continues from there. Nowhere following that does it mention Creatures such as what we refer to as Dinosaurs. Nor does it mention any human races from a prehistoric era. Although we have unearthed Human remains and fossils that are believed to date back BEFORE Adam and Eve.

I don't know for sure but the behemoth:

15"Take a look at the mighty behemoth. I made it, just as I made you. It eats grass like an ox. 16See its powerful loins and the muscles of its belly. 17Its tail is as straight as a cedar. The sinews of its thighs are tightly knit together. 18Its bones are tubes of bronze. Its limbs are bars of iron. 19It is a prime example of God's amazing handiwork. Only its Creator can threaten it. 20The mountains offer it their best food, where all the wild animals play. 21It lies down under the lotus plants, hidden by the reeds. 22The lotus plants give it shade among the willows beside the stream. 23It is not disturbed by raging rivers, not even when the swelling Jordan rushes down upon it. 24No one can catch it off guard or put a ring in its nose and lead it away.

Eat Grass

Had a Tail like a Cedar Tree (Cedar Tree think about that Tail?)

Navel is translated into Sinews on the structure of its Muscles

Bones like Bronze

Arms and Legs like Iron

Can Stand in the Jordan River at Flood Stage and not worry about getting swept away or drowned.


Just a Thought.

Also there are many, many instances thru out recorded History of Man's meeting with a creature like dragons and giant lizards that sound a lot like Dinosuars.

Note: Also the Word Dinosaur I believe was not invited until the 1800s well after King James Bible so they used the word Behemoth
 
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The Bible mentions a few mythological creatures. it doesn't mention dinosaurs. Or kangaroos for that matter.

leviathan: large sea dragon that breathes Fire.

So people have asked me if I believe that this animal breathes fire. I answer them with the following Yes I believe it is possible after all there ia a Bettle called the Bombarder Bettle that shoots fire out of it's realend why not another creater that shoots fire out of its mouth.

Unicorn sounds like a Rino to me.
 
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