Age of the Dinosaurs

[random_guy]

leviathan: large sea dragon that breathes Fire.

So people have asked me if I believe that this animal breathes fire. I answer them with the following Yes I believe it is possible after all there ia a Bettle called the Bombarder Bettle that shoots fire out of it's realend why not another creater that shoots fire out of its mouth.

Unicorn sounds like a Rino to me.

You might want to recheck that statement. Scientists have not found any animals that shoots fire. The beetle uses a chemical reaction to shoot hot chemicals, vastly different than shooting fire.

 

[cwebber]

You might want to recheck that statement. Scientists have not found any animals that shoots fire. The beetle uses a chemical reaction to shoot hot chemicals, vastly different than shooting fire.

Sorry you are correct a better term to use would be burning liquid at 100C. Which Fire in Hebrew seems that it can be translated into Burning.

Eitherway it does show that an animal is able to release hot chemicals. Could have been some sort of Acid or a possible chemical reaction that caused a fire whose to really say.

Also what what about the T-Rex they found in Montanna with soft tissue still on it.

 

[Jig]

I don't know for sure but the behemoth:

15"Take a look at the mighty behemoth. I made it, just as I made you. It eats grass like an ox. 16See its powerful loins and the muscles of its belly. 17Its tail is as straight as a cedar. The sinews of its thighs are tightly knit together. 18Its bones are tubes of bronze. Its limbs are bars of iron. 19It is a prime example of God's amazing handiwork. Only its Creator can threaten it. 20The mountains offer it their best food, where all the wild animals play. 21It lies down under the lotus plants, hidden by the reeds. 22The lotus plants give it shade among the willows beside the stream. 23It is not disturbed by raging rivers, not even when the swelling Jordan rushes down upon it. 24No one can catch it off guard or put a ring in its nose and lead it away.

Eat Grass

Had a Tail like a Cedar Tree (Cedar Tree think about that Tail?)

Navel is translated into Sinews on the structure of its Muscles

Bones like Bronze

Arms and Legs like Iron

Can Stand in the Jordan River at Flood Stage and not worry about getting swept away or drowned.


Just a Thought.

Also there are many, many instances thru out recorded History of Man's meeting with a creature like dragons and giant lizards that sound a lot like Dinosuars.

Note: Also the Word Dinosaur I believe was not invited until the 1800s well after King James Bible so they used the word Behemoth

Job 41
1"Can you draw out Leviathan with a fishhook?
Or press down his tongue with a cord?
2"Can you put a rope in his nose
Or pierce his jaw with a hook?
3"Will he make many supplications to you,
Or will he speak to you soft words?
4"Will he make a covenant with you?
Will you take him for a servant forever?
5"Will you play with him as with a bird,
Or will you bind him for your maidens?
6"Will the traders bargain over him?
Will they divide him among the merchants?
7"Can you fill his skin with harpoons,
Or his head with fishing spears?
8"Lay your hand on him;
Remember the battle; you will not do it again!
9"Behold, your expectation is false;
Will you be laid low even at the sight of him?
10"No one is so fierce that he dares to arouse him;
Who then is he that can stand before Me?
11"Who has given to Me that I should repay him?
Whatever is under the whole heaven is Mine.
12"I will not keep silence concerning his limbs,
Or his mighty strength, or his orderly frame.
13"Who can strip off his outer armor?
Who can come within his double mail?
14"Who can open the doors of his face?
Around his teeth there is terror.
15"His strong scales are his pride,
Shut up as with a tight seal.
16"One is so near to another
That no air can come between them.
17"They are joined one to another;
They clasp each other and cannot be separated.
18"His sneezes flash forth light,
And his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning.
19"Out of his mouth go burning torches;
Sparks of fire leap forth.
20"Out of his nostrils smoke goes forth
As from a boiling pot and burning rushes.
21"His breath kindles coals,
And a flame goes forth from his mouth.
22"In his neck lodges strength,
And dismay leaps before him.
23"The folds of his flesh are joined together,
Firm on him and immovable.
24"His heart is as hard as a stone,
Even as hard as a lower millstone.
25"When he raises himself up, the mighty fear;
Because of the crashing they are bewildered.
26"The sword that reaches him cannot avail,
Nor the spear, the dart or the javelin.
27"He regards iron as straw,
Bronze as rotten wood.
28"The arrow cannot make him flee;
Slingstones are turned into stubble for him.
29"Clubs are regarded as stubble;
He laughs at the rattling of the javelin.
30"His underparts are like sharp potsherds;
He spreads out like a threshing sledge on the mire.
31"He makes the depths boil like a pot;
He makes the sea like a jar of ointment.
32"Behind him he makes a wake to shine;
One would think the deep to be gray-haired.
33"Nothing on earth is like him,
One made without fear.
34"He looks on everything that is high;
He is king over all the sons of pride."

I'd have to say the Leviathan is a dinosaur of some kind, same with the behemoth. Read 40:19 (NASB, which is word for word) 19"He is the first of the ways of God. NIV goes :19 He ranks first among the works of God,

The KJV says cheif of the ways of God, but the NKJV fix this to first.

Who wouldn't agree that dinosaurs were one of Gods first creatures?

 

[notto]

I'd have to say the Leviathan is a dinosaur of some kind, same with the behemoth.

Dinosaurs could breath fire? Cool!

 

[shernren]

If those few passages were really descriptions of dinosaurs, they were terrible descriptions.

15"Take a look at the mighty behemoth. I made it, just as I made you. It eats grass like an ox. 16See its powerful loins and the muscles of its belly. 17Its tail is as straight as a cedar. The sinews of its thighs are tightly knit together. 18Its bones are tubes of bronze. Its limbs are bars of iron. 19It is a prime example of God's amazing handiwork. Only its Creator can threaten it. 20The mountains offer it their best food, where all the wild animals play. 21It lies down under the lotus plants, hidden by the reeds. 22The lotus plants give it shade among the willows beside the stream. 23It is not disturbed by raging rivers, not even when the swelling Jordan rushes down upon it. 24No one can catch it off guard or put a ring in its nose and lead it away.

AFAIK large dinosaurs do not eat grass (they would have eaten trees and tree leaves, the way elephants do), do not feed on mountains (too cold) and are not short enough to swim under lotus plants and be hidden by reeds.

30"His underparts are like sharp potsherds;
He spreads out like a threshing sledge on the mire.

That alone disqualifies it from being a dinosaur. Dinosaurs' underparts were smooth and did not scrape the mire like potsherds and threshing sledges. AFAIK one specific difference between dinosaurs and non-shelled reptiles is that dinosaurs' legs were erect and unbent underneath their bodies while crocodiles', on the other hand, bend out at right angles before touching the ground so that a crocodile might accurately be described as like a threshing sledge on the mire as it dragged its body.

Besides, to be literal, the dinosaurs weren't among God's first works. If first in order, that belongs to the sea creatures. If first in importance, that HAS to be man!

 

[notto]

Also what what about the T-Rex they found in Montanna with soft tissue still on it.

Another thing you should check. No t-rex was ever found with soft tissue still on it.

The tissue (or what might be tissue - the jury is still out) was rehydrated through a process, it was not found 'soft'.

 

[Jig]

Dinosaurs could breath fire? Cool!

Well, do you think God is talking about a fictional creature?

 

[artybloke]

Well, do you think God is talking about a fictional creature?

a) God didn't write the Bible

b) Even if he did, what's wrong with God writing fiction?

 

[notto]

Well, do you think God is talking about a fictional creature?

Nope,

I think they were talking about hippos and crocodiles. Two creatures we know live in the lands where the versus were penned.

The hippo is known to have a very large 'tail' and 'stones' if you know what I mean.

 

[cwebber]

AFAIK large dinosaurs do not eat grass (they would have eaten trees and tree leaves, the way elephants do), do not feed on mountains (too cold) and are not short enough to swim under lotus plants and be hidden by reeds.

I think it to be rather arogate to think we know everything the Dino's ate. I mean out of all that could have existed how many have we found with contents in their stomach. Why could they not eat Grass? When was the last time you went to the Zoo? Last time I was there the Elephants where eating hay along with watermelons and other fruits. Not sure were you get it's to cold it did not say the High elevations of the mountains. The Translation of Lotus is Shade Tree not shrub.

That alone disqualifies it from being a dinosaur. Dinosaurs' underparts were smooth and did not scrape the mire like potsherds and threshing sledges. AFAIK one specific difference between dinosaurs and non-shelled reptiles is that dinosaurs' legs were erect and unbent underneath their bodies while crocodiles', on the other hand, bend out at right angles before touching the ground so that a crocodile might accurately be described as like a threshing sledge on the mire as it dragged its body.

Dino's lived in the Sea as well. Pleaseeasaur was one thou I do not think it was the Leviathan. Crocs have a smooth stomach as well.

What makes an animal a Dino anyway?

Besides, to be literal, the dinosaurs weren't among God's first works. If first in order, that belongs to the sea creatures. If first in importance, that HAS to be man!

I believe it means He was a Big Creature! nothing to do with the order. God saved His best creation for Last one made in His Image but first He had to have everything setupo for Man to live.

 

[KerrMetric]

What makes an animal a Dino anyway?

Dinosaurs are Archosaurs with diapsid skulls, socketed teeth and certain other features of the skeleton like the hip region leading to the legs not being sprawled out a la reptiles. Plesiosaurs were not dinosaurs, they were marine reptiles. Pterosaurs were also not dinosaurs or reptiles either. Birds are diapsid skulled archosaurs by the way.

 

[gluadys]

I think it to be rather arogate to think we know everything the Dino's ate. I mean out of all that could have existed how many have we found with contents in their stomach. Why could they not eat Grass?

Because there was no grass to eat yet. Grass did not appear until after dinosaurs became extinct.

 

[KerrMetric]

Because there was no grass to eat yet. Grass did not appear until after dinosaurs became extinct.

Don't use facts like that, it confuses people.

 

[cwebber]

Because there was no grass to eat yet. Grass did not appear until after dinosaurs became extinct.

I worry about you guy's sometime. It's interesting to note that some evolutionist say that Grass did not exist yet.

But when you watch documentaries about Dino's what to you see them walking in Fields of Grass.

 

[KerrMetric]

I worry about you guy's sometime. It's interesting to note that some evolutionist say that Grass did not exist yet.

But when you watch documentaries about Dino's what to you see them walking in Fields of Grass.

Did you identifiy the green stuff specifically as grass?
Did the documentary call it grass?
Was it supposed to be something else?
Was it creative licence to just colour the ground?

I have to think you were joking. I hope?

 

[notto]

I worry about you guy's sometime. It's interesting to note that some evolutionist say that Grass did not exist yet.

But when you watch documentaries about Dino's what to you see them walking in Fields of Grass.

Jurrassic Park is not a documentary.

 

[cwebber]

Did you identifiy the green stuff specifically as grass?

Did the documentary call it grass?

Yes , probally the same way the Bible does a a general desription

Was it supposed to be something else?

Nope they said Grassy.

Was it creative licence to just colour the ground?

Probally and no

I have to think you were joking. I hope?

I would have to hope that people would not be so arogate and closed minded to think that Grass did not exist while the Dino's were around.

First off you weren't there so how can we procliam if there was or was not grass. Many Plant's and Animals were said to be exstint yet we still find them around today.

Living Fossils

Please don't be closed minded about the possiblity.

 

[KerrMetric]

First off you weren't there so how can we procliam if there was or was not grass. Many Plant's and Animals were said to be exstint yet we still find them around today.

Living Fossils

Please don't be closed minded about the possiblity.

There was no grass. Grasses did not exist at that time. That is what is called a fact.

If you require someone to be literally present to ascertain fact then I suggest you write your senator/MP or whatever and campaign for the prisons to release 70% of inmates since their prison sentences were based upon evidence that was not eyewitness testimony. By your criteria we cannot be sure of their guilt and hence reasonable doubt.

Here's an example. If I find a body in my living room with the head blown off, brains splattered on the walls, pellets embedded in the brain tissue and remains, a recently fired shotgun laying near the body then I think it is safe to assume the shotgun was responsible. I don't need to have been in the room to figure that is a fact.

 

[gluadys]

I worry about you guy's sometime. It's interesting to note that some evolutionist say that Grass did not exist yet.

But when you watch documentaries about Dino's what to you see them walking in Fields of Grass.

You must be watching poor documentaries made by people who didn't get all their facts straight.

 

[cwebber]

You must be watching poor documentaries made by people who didn't get all their facts straight.

You know I was thinking the same thing. They did not show any humans around with Dino's even thou there is ample evidence of it happening.

They seem to think that if it has sharp teeth it must eat meat when in reality it only means they have sharp teeth.