"...against nature:" Always a sin?

[DevotiontoBible]

No babies being born out of colons is proof that homosexuality doesn't exist? LOL
It only proves that there are no eggs in the colon - that PROCREATION won't happen - but procreation is not the only reason for sexuality.

It proves that human sexuality is heterosexual by orientation.

 

[saami]

Why is thread still open while the one where people were actually speaking in moderate voices and kindly to one another was -

CLOSED: Homosexuals in the Church

Sorry guys, I clearly posted the rules here and they have been ignored

So this thread is being closed.

PLEASE read the rules, if you need clarification PM me

Thanks

 

[saami]

It proves that human sexuality is heterosexual by orientation.

Procreation is heterosexual - but sexuality is not only procreation - unless you are Catholic - then sex is un-natural no matter what goes into where if you use a barrier, or drug to prevent conception or use a "natural" part that is not longer fertile.

 

[DevotiontoBible]

Procreation is heterosexual - but sexuality is not only procreation -....

Humans are the only organisms in nature that cross over their natural procreation orientation into homosexuality.

 

[artybloke]

I suspect you would like to say God did not write the Bible, but that it is a product of human invention. Is that true?

Absolutely. There's only one Logos in the Bible and that is Christ. And what you've given above is not a philosophy of what is "natural" or "unnatural," in terms of human or animal behaviour. "Natural" is what happens. I don't have faith in words, I have faith in the Word.

And don't you dare accuse me of not having faith, or I will report you for questioning my Christianity.

 

[Newsboy1900]

Why is thread still open while the one where people were actually speaking in moderate voices and kindly to one another was -

cause that one admin/mod closes all homosexual topics (if you havent noticed) im sure they havent saw this one yet

 

[Outrider]

Absolutely.

At least now I know where you are coming from.

There's only one Logos in the Bible and that is Christ.

And do you have some special means by which you gain truth from Christ outside of the Scriptures?

And what you've given above is not a philosophy of what is "natural" or "unnatural," in terms of human or animal behaviour.

Of course it is. Do you not understand what a philosophy is? Even if it is false it is a philosophy. The Greek philosophers believed in a dualistic cosmos in which the physical universe was an invisible shadow of trancendant realities in the abstract realm. Just because I do not agree with this view does not make it not a philosophy. And just because sectors of modern science proceed from a purely materialistic standpoint does not mean that I need to feel any obligation to accept their definitions, especially where better definitions exist in the Scirptures

"Natural" is what happens. I don't have faith in words, I have faith in the Word.

If that is all nature is, why even mention it. If it is true that "nature" is what happens, then nothing is "unnatural". There is no negative category, therefore there is no philosophy regarding "nature". It seems that your view of "nature" is the one that is not philosophical. But your definition is only your own. All reawsonable thinkers recognize at least that what is referred to as "natural" are those things that happen and behave according to some standard of normalcy and what is "unnatural' are those things that are out of conformity. Your view has no reference whatsoever. There is no basis for ethics at all.... for anything.

And don't you dare accuse me of not having faith, or I will report you for questioning my Christianity.

No accusation, just asking. Touchy.