After Kim Davis is jailed, clerk's office issues marriage license to gay couple (Moved)

[TheoNewstoss]

Great counter argument.

 

[TheoNewstoss]

Pardon my intrusion, but when two atheists go to a Government office, get a Government issued Marriage License and get married by a Government Justice of the Peace, I would refer to that as a Secular Marriage.

What would you call it?

If they're members of the opposite sex, marriage.

 

[Glass*Soul]

Because minors cannot give consent. The age of majority does vary depending on the jurisdiction.

Dogs and cats also cannot give consent.

None of this has anythjing to do with the topic at hand. This woman was held in contempt for refusing to follow a court order to issue marriage licenses, which is a duty of her office.

My cat gets all huffy if I try to kiss her little ears. I'm sure I'll never get her to agree to marry me.

(ears so soft)

 

[bhsmte]

Great counter argument.

Since secular marriage exists, there was nothing to counter.

 

[TheoNewstoss]

Bigotry, intolerance, and a refusal to do one's job had everything to do with it.

The truth is hate to those who hate the truth.

 

[TheoNewstoss]

Waiting with bated breath for an actual refutation of what I've said and not just a straw man or yet another red herring...

 

[bhsmte]

The truth is hate to those who hate the truth.

I can agree with you there.

 

[Glass*Soul]

Glad to see us angling back towards the real issue here. There is no reason for her to have been jailed indefinitely. The abuse of judicial power--quite apart from the right of the courts to rule on the legality of gay marriages--is something that should concern even the folks making the snarky comments and the "she got what she deserved" posts. The minute it happens to someone THEY favor, you'll be hearing another tune played.

If they let her go, will she simply halt the issuing of marriage licenses again? What's to stop her? What other recourse do the courts have if an elected office holder continues to defy a court order?

 

[bhsmte]

If they let her go, will she simply halt the issuing of marriage licenses again? What's to stop her? What other recourse do the courts have if an elected office holder continues to defy a court order?

Ask her; "pretty please"?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Read the articles you post before posting them. See that little section called "History?" That might help.

"History" refers to things that happened in the past.

Welcome to the present.

 

[TLK Valentine]

If they're members of the opposite sex, marriage.

So let's not make the artificial distinction, and agree that marriage is marriage no matter who performs the ceremony.

Since the licenses in question are coming from the State of Kentucky, they get to set the rules... within reason, of course.

 

[Glass*Soul]

Maybe you'd find some other ridiculous sequence of events to be "all she has to do." Like...

All she has to do is have sex with the sheriff.

or

All she has to do is publicly renounce her faith in Christ.

or

All she has to do is agree to give up her citizenship.


Do you really, really not understand the issue here?

Interestingly, none of these things would actually get her out of jail.

 

[TLK Valentine]

The truth is hate to those who hate the truth.

The truth is that the United States Government gets to decide who can and cannot marry... and they don't have to listen to anyone or anything but the Constitution.

 

[Look Up]

And now this:

Judge orders jailed clerk released immediately
"The move came down just before Davis was to receive jailhouse visits from presidential candidates Mike Huckabee and Ted Cruz. "
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ju...eased-immediately/ar-AAe4jjf?ocid=mailsignout

 

[Archivist]

Marriage is not a secular institution. "Secular marriage" doesn't exist.

Sure it does, or else my friends who were married by MDJs just imagined it.

 

[TheoNewstoss]

"History" refers to things that happened in the past.

Welcome to the present.

And in the present, marriage still means the same thing. Welcome to reality.

 

[TheoNewstoss]

Sure it does, or else my friends who were married by MDJs just imagined it.

Exactly.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Waiting with bated breath for an actual refutation of what I've said and not just a straw man or yet another red herring...

How about this: If her religious convictions prevent her from doing the job she was elected to do, she can resign.

What's wrong with that solution?

 

[Archivist]

And in the present, marriage still means the same thing. Welcome to reality.

The US Supreme Court says otherwsie. Welcome top the real reality.

 

[TheoNewstoss]

The truth is that the United States Government gets to decide who can and cannot marry...

That's your story and you're sticking to it, that is, until if flounders under the weight of any scrutiny.