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Hey I have a situation.

My dad is big on the evolution thing. He is very analytical and only believes stuff he can see or touch or hear. I have tried everything I can do to try and leave him to Christ. He still doesn't believe me

My Grandma also doesn't believe in God. She believes some aliens came ovre here and made us. IF someone could even get her to believe in God I doubt she would come to him. She said that if there was a god she would hate him. The reason is because my uncle drowned to death when he was three years old, and she is mad at god for that.

Do any of you guys have any ideas about what I could say or do?

Thanks
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Pray!! Pray for them!! Get as close to JESUS as you can!! HE is always with you!! HE loves you and wants to talk with you you can talk with HIM anytime you want to. Talk with HIM frequantly.

What does that have to do with your dad and your grandmother? Two things; the best way to witness to them is by being a good Christain. The best way to be a good Christian is to develope a close relationship with JESUS!!

2. In your conversations with JESUS HE will help you know what to say to your dad and grandma.
 
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lonnienord said:
Pray!! Pray for them!! Get as close to JESUS as you can!! HE is always with you!! HE loves you and wants to talk with you you can talk with HIM anytime you want to. Talk with HIM frequantly.

What does that have to do with your dad and your grandmother? Two things; the best way to witness to them is by being a good Christain. The best way to be a good Christian is to develope a close relationship with JESUS!!

2. In your conversations with JESUS HE will help you know what to say to your dad and grandma.

I do trust me, I pray for them every night. I just wish there was something i could say to my dad and grandma. I also have a very close relationship with Jesus so i am not worried about that. I am just worried their hearts may be hardened.
 
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i think perhaps your grandma first began to hate God when the pain that she was going thru at your uncle's death was too much for her to cope with. it was easier to express that pain as anger at God. People often do this when they need an outlet to vent, and they don't have the time or the space to greive in a healthy way.

God understands that, but He loves her enough to not let her stay in her pain. Finding a way for her to release that pain would be a good thing. getting her to talk about what happened might be the key to doing that. You need to know that it will hurt and that she will resist. she may even blame you or lash out at you for reminding her of the pain. but when she can have the courage to face her pain she will find healing and peace.

As for your father there are some people who, because of their life experiences really need to know without a doubt that God is real and that He can love them, and most importantly that He can be trusted to keep His promises.
the good news is that God has promised us that when we look for Him with all our heart we will find Him. Look at Jeremiah 29:11-14. Also remember that Thomas, one of Jesus' own disciples was the same way, needing proof before he could believe. the beautiful thing is that Jesus gave him that proof, because he knew that Thomas really did want to believe.
It would be a wonderful thing if your Father could believe that he might see his brother again in heaven.
 
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if u keep praying, an u believe in ur heart that Jesus will save them.. he will.. but it may not be in ur timing... he may not use u, but he may use others around u..

just act like a christian, do everything u would usually do...

but keep prayin!

i [ray this situation gets better 4 u!!
 
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i see that this is an old thread with nothing current going on so, being new at this, i assume the issue is perhaps dead. i would say that the advice below to "Pray, pray, pray" is excellent and, in fact the only viable way of helping unbelievers to find peace in our Lord after having presented the Gospel to them lovingly. Hammering away, debating, arguing, and attempting to convice is, in my experience, ALWAYS counter-productive. Praying that our Lord will open the spiritual eyes of the unbeliever to the truth of the Gospel and the reality of who Jesus is and can be for them is, again in my experience, ALMOST ALWAYS effective. The exceptions are, of course, those whose hearts have been so hardened that their shells have become impermeable. These are few and far between and it is very doubtful if your father or your grandmother qualify. If you continue constantly and consistently in prayer, God will do the work in resolving the false beliefs and the doubts of your father and will heal the pain of your grandmother so that they will be able to follow your example into the Light of the Kingdom.
Please note what was mentioned about you setting the example for your father and your grandmother--you have got to show them something in your life that they need and desire: peace, unconditional love, spiritual, mental, and emotional health and happiness, and a joy in the life you are leading as a Christian. i don't believe anyone has ever been debated into the Kingdom--they are led there by the love of those praying constantly and consistently for them. Case in point--ME. i was lost in the darkside of alcohol, drugs, crime, etc. for most of my 62 years but my God-Loving mother never stopped praying for me. I finally found the Lord--or, rather, allowed myself to be found by Him--at the age of 56. She never quit, never gave up, never lost hope and, when God's time came, i was healed and led willingly into the light. May your prayers, likewise, bear fruit. Be patient--"Ask and you WILL receive."

MAY GOD BLESS YOU, YOUR FATHER, AND YOUR GRANDMOTHER,
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