Adventist view on B17

[JohnMarsten]

I recently heard about a b17 apricot seed cure for cancer.

On the net you will find many different views, some say its a fraud others say it helps...

Are there any views by adventist doctors??

Have you ever heard about it? Tried it or have friends who did??

 

[OntheDL]

I recently heard about a b17 apricot seed cure for cancer.

On the net you will find many different views, some say its a fraud others say it helps...

Are there any views by adventist doctors??

Have you ever heard about it? Tried it or have friends who did??

I have not heard of this. But I suspect the Apricot seed is high in antioxidant.

If one is interested in the natural healing of cancer, it's not going to be a single ingredient.

It's the wholesale change of life style, diet and faith and trust in God and bringing his/her life into accordance with the will of God.

 

[JohnMarsten]

I have not heard of this. But I suspect the Apricot seed is high in antioxidant.

If one is interested in the natural healing of cancer, it's not going to be a single ingredient.

It's the wholesale change of life style, diet and faith and trust in God and bringing his/her life into accordance with the will of God.

it sure is!

but still I was just curious because I read a couple of articles recently on it and when I checked back on the internet I read different views on it, and of course there is a lot of rubbish on the net so I thought I ask if anyone in here had any views or experiences...

 

[E.T.Elijah]

I ran across this information about 10 years ago. Apricot seeds do have a cancer curing ability but because of the seeds make-up it is very dangerous for the average person to use. It contains Iodine in one of the seeds layers if I remember correctly. Each layer cancels out the layer surrounding it, but it can be very toxic if not done right. I'm sure it could be done right by the pharmacutical companies but what profit would be in that. If they would provide a cure for cancer then they eliminate billions in profits. More profitable to just slow the effects. Same with HIV and AIDS. There are natural remedies out there...just ask Magic Johnson. Its been 20+ years since he was diagnosed and now he shows no signs of it.

 

[JohnMarsten]

I ran across this information about 10 years ago. Apricot seeds do have a cancer curing ability but because of the seeds make-up it is very dangerous for the average person to use. It contains Iodine in one of the seeds layers if I remember correctly. Each layer cancels out the layer surrounding it, but it can be very toxic if not done right. I'm sure it could be done right by the pharmacutical companies but what profit would be in that. If they would provide a cure for cancer then they eliminate billions in profits. More profitable to just slow the effects. Same with HIV and AIDS. There are natural remedies out there...just ask Magic Johnson. Its been 20+ years since he was diagnosed and now he shows no signs of it.

How did Magic do it? Heard he was an adventist?

 

[E.T.Elijah]

I had heard that also, but never any real definite proof...more just rumors. But I know that he definitely didn't go through the normal treatment process for it. But when you have money for the best I guess thats what you will get. I do remember an interview with him a few years ago where he said that there are no traces of HIV in his system anymore. I found that very interesting.

 

[JohnMarsten]

I had heard that also, but never any real definite proof...more just rumors. But I know that he definitely didn't go through the normal treatment process for it. But when you have money for the best I guess thats what you will get. I do remember an interview with him a few years ago where he said that there are no traces of HIV in his system anymore. I found that very interesting.

true, true, when you have money you will get it! pitty that adventist health care mainly depends on the same. Heard that most adventists cant afford and have to go to non-adventist hospitals for treatment, shame on that!

 

[E.T.Elijah]

Well, I work in the healthcare industry at a catholic hospital. Healthcare is heavily regulated by the government and that inturn keeps costs extremely high. Most don't realize all the hidden costs that a hospital incurrs based on guidelines that the governing bodies keep heaping on them. If such and such infection occurs while a person is a patient, insurance and government will not pay for any care pertaining to it. Thats great in many cases, it keeps standards at a high level. However, there are just some things that cannot be helped because each individual is different and each case is different. And as much as I hate to say it, people just don't like to follow doctors and nurses directions.

Also, the majority of adventists do not work for other adventists. Thus, an employers insurance may or may not allow for certain medical institutions to provide care. Again, since I work for a Catholic hospital, most of the approved providers are within the same network of healthcare providers. So ultimately it has nothing to do with costs why adventists "can't afford" to go to an adventist hospital. I would say most people if they don't have insurance couldn't afford to go to any hospital.

 

[JohnMarsten]

Well, I work in the healthcare industry at a catholic hospital. Healthcare is heavily regulated by the government and that inturn keeps costs extremely high. Most don't realize all the hidden costs that a hospital incurrs based on guidelines that the governing bodies keep heaping on them. If such and such infection occurs while a person is a patient, insurance and government will not pay for any care pertaining to it. Thats great in many cases, it keeps standards at a high level. However, there are just some things that cannot be helped because each individual is different and each case is different. And as much as I hate to say it, people just don't like to follow doctors and nurses directions.

Also, the majority of adventists do not work for other adventists. Thus, an employers insurance may or may not allow for certain medical institutions to provide care. Again, since I work for a Catholic hospital, most of the approved providers are within the same network of healthcare providers. So ultimately it has nothing to do with costs why adventists "can't afford" to go to an adventist hospital. I would say most people if they don't have insurance couldn't afford to go to any hospital.

it probably is the way it is, pitty indeed... isnt there a way that adventist hospitals could do some pro bono work for the people in need who cannot afford proper health care?? tax deductable??

 

[E.T.Elijah]

They may due the charity route, but I do not know for sure. But just an example, my hospital gets 40,000-80,000 claims on its charity program per year. There are 2 other hospitals in the area but I do not believe that they have a charity program. We service alot of central Illinois. When my first wife died, it cost around $18,000 for 1 1/2 hours of emergency CPR, meds, doctors, supplies, room, etc. Thank God I had insurance with a $150 deductible that covered it. I have seen patients that have had bills in the millions. Just recently I saw a memo that showed the price of regular labs. Some routine morning labs are almost $1000. Those get drawn daily in my unit. Imagine someone who is in the ICU for 30days getting labs drawn every day...$30,000 right there. That doesn't even included a room rate of $2000-4000 a day. Believe me when I say supplies for the room are expensive as well. A certain catheter is $1800. Medical products here in the US are way too expensive. Companies gouge hospitals because they know hospitals need the stuff. It is a sad state that this country is in.

 

[JohnMarsten]

They may due the charity route, but I do not know for sure. But just an example, my hospital gets 40,000-80,000 claims on its charity program per year. There are 2 other hospitals in the area but I do not believe that they have a charity program. We service alot of central Illinois. When my first wife died, it cost around $18,000 for 1 1/2 hours of emergency CPR, meds, doctors, supplies, room, etc. Thank God I had insurance with a $150 deductible that covered it. I have seen patients that have had bills in the millions. Just recently I saw a memo that showed the price of regular labs. Some routine morning labs are almost $1000. Those get drawn daily in my unit. Imagine someone who is in the ICU for 30days getting labs drawn every day...$30,000 right there. That doesn't even included a room rate of $2000-4000 a day. Believe me when I say supplies for the room are expensive as well. A certain catheter is $1800. Medical products here in the US are way too expensive. Companies gouge hospitals because they know hospitals need the stuff. It is a sad state that this country is in.

indeed it is, the saddest thing is that the hospitals where most likely biult by adventist believer's money and when in need cannot help those who built them...