Adoption Rules Changed

[Hammster]

Who are YOU to sit in judgement?

Is it wrong to sit in judgement?

 

[Hammster]

Judge not lest he be judged.

Context.


“Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ and behold, the log is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye. “Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
— Matthew 7:1-6

 

[Hammster]

There shouldn't be Christian law because the United States of America is not a Christian nation and the federal government should never endorse or promote Christianity and its biblical tenets. In fact, the federal government should never endorse or promote one specific religion over other religions.

I’m not advocating that, so this is just a straw man.

 

[Hammster]

I think it's ironic that most of the Christians who stand in judgment against homosexuals don't judge adulterers with the same level of condemnation and one result of that is Trump is the President.

How do you know this? Where is your evidence to support this claim?

 

[Speedwell]

Well, if you don’t know my answer, then all of my other responses have been in vain, and there’s no need to continue.

All we have been able to determine is that you think the rules should change to privilege the convictions of your particular religious sect. You haven't explained why you think your sect deserves that privilege.

 

[Hammster]

All we have been able to determine is that you think the rules should change to privilege the convictions of your particular religious sect. You haven't explained why you think your sect deserves that privilege.

Yes I have.

 

[Speedwell]

Yes I have.

Maybe I missed it. It is certainly true that you haven't convinced me that your sect deserves special privileges from a secular government.

 

[GACfan]

How do you know this? Where is your evidence to support this claim?

Multiple posts and some threads on Christian Forums, but since members aren't allowed to call out other members, I can't post links to these posts or threads. Some examples I can use are: "I voted for a President, not a Pastor," "Trump shouldn't be judged for his sins," "Who among us is without sin?"

I’m not advocating that, so this is just a straw man.

No, it isn't because I wasn't talking about you or to you. I was addressing another member.

 

[The_Barmecide]

Is it wrong to sit in judgement?

No...assuming you don't likewise wish to be judged.

 

[The_Barmecide]

“Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ and behold, the log is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye. “Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
— Matthew 7:1-6

And, you prove my point!

Thank you VERY MUCH! You made my point EXACTLY.

 

[Elle12]

Well, if you don’t know my answer, then all of my other responses have been in vain, and there’s no need to continue.

Very clearly, more than one person on this thread thinks that you have not answered the question. I will ask again, since you claim that it is the topic of the thread.

Why should the rules change?

 

[Hammster]

Maybe I missed it. It is certainly true that you haven't convinced me that your sect deserves special privileges from a secular government.

I doubt I could.

 

[Hammster]

Multiple posts and some threads on Christian Forums, but since members aren't allowed to call out other members, I can't post links to these posts or threads. Some examples I can use are: "I voted for a President, not a Pastor," "Trump shouldn't be judged for his sins," "Who among us is without sin?"



No, it isn't because I wasn't talking about you or to you. I was addressing another member.

So anecdotal evidence at best. Okay.

 

[Hammster]

No...assuming you don't likewise wish to be judged.

If it’s not wrong then don’t bring it up.

 

[Hammster]

And, you prove my point!

Thank you VERY MUCH! You made my point EXACTLY.

Mkay.

 

[Hammster]

Very clearly, more than one person on this thread thinks that you have not answered the question. I will ask again, since you claim that it is the topic of the thread.

Why should the rules change?

I’m not repeating myself.

 

[Elle12]

I’m not repeating myself.

Why not?

 

[Hammster]

Why not?

I don’t want to.

 

[Elle12]

I don’t want to.

Then why are you still commenting?

 

[Speedwell]

Well, then, let's not change the rule. That's the only fair and equitable way of doing it anyway. If Christian adoption agencies don't want to go along with it then they just shouldn't accept the federal subsidy.