Adoption Rules Changed

[Hammster]

Like Pastor Ted Haggard? Or Jimmy Swaggart? Or Jim Bakker? Or ...

???

 

[Speedwell]

That would be wrong.

So why should Christian adoption agencies get a pass for discrimination, but not others?

 

[Hammster]

Or in the homes of the 68% of Christian men (including pastors) who are addicted to pornography or in the homes of the church leaders and Catholic priests who are guilty of sexually molesting children.

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Pornography bad, abhorrent sexual practices, good?

 

[Hammster]

So why should Christian adoption agencies get a pass for discrimination, but not others?

Because they are (hopefully) trying to follow God’s will.

 

[GACfan]

So why should Christian adoption agencies get a pass for discrimination, but not others?

Christian adoption agencies shouldn't get a pass for discrimination. Christians aren't entitled to be given special treatment from the government and be exempt from obeying the law simply because they are Christian. Christians shouldn't be given preferential treatment by the government.

 

[The_Barmecide]

The Bible, however, says different.

What does the Bible say about placing children in adoptive families of same-sex couples? We all know what God says about people being gay, but what does it say about adoption agencies?

 

[The_Barmecide]

Because they are (hopefully) trying to follow God’s will.

So if I want to break the law then all I need to do is tell you I was "following God's will"?

 

[GACfan]

Pornography bad, abhorrent sexual practices, good?

Yes, I consider exposing young children to pornography by a Christian parent or a child being sexually molested by a church leader or Catholic priest is much worse than the personal sexual acts of a same-sex couple in the privacy of their bedroom. The love life of a same-sex couple is personal, just as it is for straight couples. It certainly shouldn't be the concern of the Christians who don't approve of it.

 

[Hammster]

What does the Bible say about placing children in adoptive families of same-sex couples? We all know what God says about people being gay, but what does it say about adoption agencies?

If scripture is against homosexuality, then it’s safe to assume that placing children with a homosexual couple will also be sinful because it would be condoning that action.

 

[The_Barmecide]

Okie dokie.

Yes. Okie Dokie. (I assume you are not in favor of at least some of those families raising children, correct?)

 

[Hammster]

So if I want to break the law then all I need to do is tell you I was "following God's will"?

Nobody is talking about breaking the law.

 

[Hammster]

Yes, I consider exposing young children to pornography by a Christian parent or a child being sexually molested by a church leader or Catholic priest is much worse than the personal sexual acts of a same-sex couple in the privacy of their bedroom.

You really moved the goalposts on that one.

 

[Hammster]

Yes. Okie Dokie. (I assume you are not in favor of at least some of those families raising children, correct?)

These made up families?

 

[The_Barmecide]

Pornography bad, abhorrent sexual practices, good?

I don't think that's what the other poster was saying. Let's think about it this way: is YOUR pastor a big advocate of pornography? Does YOUR pastor get up every Sunday with his copy of *****s and read aloud to you guys at church? No, probably not. In fact that pastor probably doesn't approve of pornography. Now imagine if that pastor was also busy going through his private stash of disgusting porn every Sunday afternoon because he just LOVES it?

That would be HYPOCRISY. It would mean that the other poster was talking about people who CLAIM to believe something, but actually DO NOT, and really just want POWER over others and they will use religion as their means of getting stuff from others.

THAT is the kind of piety that doesn't need to have access to children.

 

[The_Barmecide]

These made up families?

And you actually think there are NOT Christians out there who simply mouth the words without actually loving God? Really?

You need to read your Bible. Because those type of people are EXPLICITLY WANRED ABOUT in Matthew 7:21.

 

[Speedwell]

Because they are (hopefully) trying to follow God’s will.

And the federal government should subsidize some particular sectarian notion of what's God's will is? What I see is that certain Christians expect to be given a pass on the requirements for federal subsidies that other groups have to abide by--because they are Christians. In a secular republic that is unacceptable.

 

[The_Barmecide]

If scripture is against homosexuality, then it’s safe to assume that placing children with a homosexual couple will also be sinful because it would be condoning that action.

Hmmm. Interesting.

 

[The_Barmecide]

Nobody is talking about breaking the law.

There are many places where it is ILLEGAL to discriminate on the basis of sexual preference.

Oh, yeah, and the fact that ALL AMERICANS are guaranteed the same access to justice by the Constitution.

 

[Speedwell]

If scripture is against homosexuality, then it’s safe to assume that placing children with a homosexual couple will also be sinful because it would be condoning that action.

So the solution is easy--stop taking federal money.

 

[KCfromNC]

It’s not about the sinful couples who are pretending to be in a marriage.

I haven't seen any evidence that the prohibition includes divorcees who remarry. Or couples who eat shellfish.