Adolf Hitler

[dayhiker]

I'd only let Hitler out of hell if he allowed Jesus to change his heart.

 

[HomeBound]

Here is a video of a bunch of FACTS. Facts I'm sure the Wiccan will say have been debunked. But they haven't been debunked.
Do yourselves a favor and watch it entirely, and don't allow your ignorance to dictate what you recieve as truth.

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[Wiccan_Child]

Here is a video of a bunch of FACTS. Facts I'm sure the Wiccan will say have been debunked. But they haven't been debunked.

How can I hope to compete against such impeccable logic .

Do yourselves a favor and watch it entirely, and don't allow your ignorance to dictate what you recieve as truth.

You heard it here first, folks: ditch historical fact on the whim of an internet alias and a YouTube video!

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Oh Gods, where to begin...

 

[HomeBound]

Oh Gods, where to begin...

If it's the same god's that keep you closed to truth, I'm not sure they're a good source of help.
Just watch the video and stop letting your pride rule your learning, or lack of.

 

[wannabeadesigirl]

If it's the same god's that keep you closed to truth, I'm not sure they're a good source of help.
Just watch the video and stop letting your pride rule your learning, or lack of.

Without love we are nothing? You essentially just berated someone on their pride when you're being more arrogant because you're so sure of your theological and historical prowess.

Anyway,
God knows the heart of all men. Who isn't to say that once you fall into your last sleep, you remain alive for a half hour, long enough for Christ to meet with you. Perhaps this happened with Hitler, and every person who has died, whether from the hand of evil men, or from natural causes.
Christ have mercy.

 

[HomeBound]

Without love we are nothing? You essentially just berated someone on their pride when you're being more arrogant because you're so sure of your theological and historical prowess.

Anyway,
God knows the heart of all men. Who isn't to say that once you fall into your last sleep, you remain alive for a half hour, long enough for Christ to meet with you. Perhaps this happened with Hitler, and every person who has died, whether from the hand of evil men, or from natural causes.
Christ have mercy.

My bad, I just know that many people will shun truths or ideas because of pride. I try to be in a constant mode of learning. My appearing arrogant may be a result of some of the cold responses I have seen on this thread. I get a little apprehensive when I see such coldness about people going to Hell.

Thanks for calling me out on that. Perhaps I wasn't very loving in sharing my information, which I would hardly refer to as prowess btw.

 

[Armistead]

OK first of all, you people need to stop being so gosh darn ignorant. Its been 60 something years and we have gained a lot more knowledge of events that took place back then. There is evidence now that shows that the story of the Holocaust was nothing more than propaganda. We have sound evidence that Jews weren't slaughtered in these so called gas chambers. Anyone who would care to do the research and stop falling for what they've been taught in school would see that a massacre of this scale would be impossible with the methods claimed in the stories. As a matter of fact there is no evidence of the claims made by so called holocaust survivors of which there are millions. The only evidence of such atrocities are a few doctored photos and piles of shoes and empty cans of zyklon-b. Speaking of Zyklon-B, there is a residue that this stuff leaves on the walls known as a blue stain. This residue has been found in the buildings known to have been used for delousing purposes, but guess what... non of this staining has been found in the buildings claimed to have been used to wipe out thousands a day. These buildings were said to have been used every day, and all day.
Do a youtube search of david cole, or holocaust revisionists, and you will finally start seeing the truth. Try doing a search for audio from Benjamin Freedman. These people are Jewish and in spite of many death threats to their lives, have come forward with overdue information.
I know this post is going to make people angry, but you know what. I don't answer to ignorant people of this world, I answer to God, and I know he wants me to share truth.

So, to answer the question of the OP, I dont believe Hitler even went to Hell.

Well, I hope your kidding. As a historian, this is so silly it's not worth refuting. My grandfather rescued jews in prision camps. There is so much evidence, that those that don't accept the holocause are the same people that think Bush was behind 9/11. Freedman's "facts" have been so refuted that anyone making that debate is silly. Most people don't get angry over these lies, just that silly.

 

[Armistead]

Without love we are nothing? You essentially just berated someone on their pride when you're being more arrogant because you're so sure of your theological and historical prowess.

Anyway,
God knows the heart of all men. Who isn't to say that once you fall into your last sleep, you remain alive for a half hour, long enough for Christ to meet with you. Perhaps this happened with Hitler, and every person who has died, whether from the hand of evil men, or from natural causes.
Christ have mercy.

The thought is nice, but this is unbiblical. Also, many people die in a matter of a few seconds, take the thousands of japanese that were melted into dust in a second from the atomic bomb.

However, the bible is clear and I believe in universal salvation, but it will be the refining process of the "Lake of fire" where those that reject Christ will come to know him. The fact is most of mankind has never heard of Christ or the gospel. Still, the bible says Christ is the only way into heaven. These can only know Christ when they have the knowledge and that will not come until the resurrection of mankind.

 

[wannabeadesigirl]

Props Armistead. I still don't know how to give rep on this new fangled forum doo hickey.

Even if they die in a matter of a few seconds there still could be a waiting place. I dunno, it's not mine to decide, and often I wonder if it is mine to wonder about. After all I'm here now, and now is what counts towards eternity. Didn't the angels ask the apostles "Why are you staring into the sky, don't you know the son of man will return as he ascended?" I think that was subliminal commanding, God telling us not to look to the sky every second of every day, but to do what work he has for us so that the Kingdom may advance.

 

[onemessiah]

My bad, I just know that many people will shun truths or ideas because of pride. I try to be in a constant mode of learning. My appearing arrogant may be a result of some of the cold responses I have seen on this thread. I get a little apprehensive when I see such coldness about people going to Hell.

Thanks for calling me out on that. Perhaps I wasn't very loving in sharing my information, which I would hardly refer to as prowess btw.

 

[HomeBound]

Well, I hope your kidding. As a historian, this is so silly it's not worth refuting. My grandfather rescued jews in prision camps. There is so much evidence, that those that don't accept the holocause are the same people that think Bush was behind 9/11. Freedman's "facts" have been so refuted that anyone making that debate is silly. Most people don't get angry over these lies, just that silly.

I never said there weren't concentration camps. I know there were. Concentration camps are a sad product of war. Freedman's claims may have been refuted, but that in no way discredits the facts he has put forth. It may to some degree make people question his validity. Unfortunately thats enough for some to label him as a liar.
It is my understanding that those who claim themselves as historians are the first ones to refute truth opposed to what they have learned from the curriculum. It's kind of like the Egyptologists refuting the new chronology of events as discovered by David Rohls. It's actually quite sad that peoples knowledge is so set in stone that they will do anything to protect that which they call truth.
Take dentists for instance... we have new technology that has helped us discover that tooth amalgam (used for fillings) contains mercury. Dentists will claim (in their so called expert opinions) that there is no danger of that mercury absorbing into the bodies. But we now know for a fact that it does.

Jesus came to this world to teach us a new way of being one with God, yet the Sanhedrin and pharisees held to knowledge they considered superior to anything new. This mentality has stunted growth for thousands of years, and continues today. Its actually very sad.

 

[DailyBlessings]

Yes, of course I would. No one is deserving of eternal torture.

 

[theQuestionist]

We don't even have a right to consider a question like this posed by the OP; it is God's prerogative to judge, not ours.

For that reason, I don't think it is even appropriate to vote (which I didn't).

What a morally bankrupt position to hold.

That would be like the German soldiers in WW2 saying to themselves, "We don't even have a right to consider a question like whether or not we should gas the Jews; it is Hitler's prerogative to judge...not ours!"

inb4 Godwin's Law.

 

[martymonster]

What a morally bankrupt position to hold.

That would be like the German soldiers in WW2 saying to themselves, "We don't even have a right to consider a question like whether or not we should gas the Jews; it is Hitler's prerogative to judge...not ours!"

inb4 Godwin's Law.

Actually, that sort of answer was a pretty staple sort of defence for the nazi's being tried for war crimes after the holocost.

Their standard defence was "I was just following orders"

It's the sort of attitude that says, "its not mine to judge" that leads to the kind morally depraved behaviour that ends up as hypothetical's for other people to skirt around.

Very ironic, if you ask Me!

 

[HomeBound]

To those who actually believe that God sends people to Hell for eternity for making bad decisions in one life time... You must have a very warped idea of what love is.
To those who voted Yes... at least there's hope for you.
To those who voted no... You're just plain sick in the head.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

To those who actually believe that God sends people to Hell for eternity for making bad decisions in one life time... You must have a very warped idea of what love is.
To those who voted Yes... at least there's hope for you.
To those who voted no... You're just plain sick in the head.

This coming from the Holocaust Denial-er...

 

[NavyGuy7]

I'm curious to see what people have to say...

If you had ability to do so, would you let Hitler out of Hell? (Assuming he is in hell that is, nobody can really now for sure...)

I'm obviously not saying anyone DOES have the power to do such a thing, but if you could, WOULD you?

No. It is not the role of humans to play God. Simple as that.

 

[NavyGuy7]

To those who actually believe that God sends people to Hell for eternity for making bad decisions in one life time... You must have a very warped idea of what love is.
To those who voted Yes... at least there's hope for you.
To those who voted no... You're just plain sick in the head.

Yet another one... ok, here goes...
*cracks knuckles, prepared to repeat something he's typed over and over again...*
God doesn't send people to Hell in the sense you are thinking. Rather, it is man himself who does this when he rejects Christ as his personal savior. Technically, man is bound to hell first. When he accepts Christ's forgiveness of his sins and his sacrifice on the Cross, he changes teh status quo and is not in danger of hell anymore. When he rejects Christ, he has merely changed nothing. It is by man's choice that God makes his decisions. We damn ourselves, so to speak.
I voted no, yet I'm a fairly reasonable, sane person. There is no "sickness" whatsoever. You have yet to back up your claim that people who vote no are "sick in the head".
Hey, if they're going to say something like this, I'm going to take it seriously.
*Shrugs shoulders, and smiles sheepishly*

 

[onemessiah]

Yet another one... ok, here goes...
*cracks knuckles, prepared to repeat something he's typed over and over again...*
God doesn't send people to Hell in the sense you are thinking. Rather, it is man himself who does this when he rejects Christ as his personal savior. Technically, man is bound to hell first. When he accepts Christ's forgiveness of his sins and his sacrifice on the Cross, he changes teh status quo and is not in danger of hell anymore. When he rejects Christ, he has merely changed nothing. It is by man's choice that God makes his decisions. We damn ourselves, so to speak.
I voted no, yet I'm a fairly reasonable, sane person. There is no "sickness" whatsoever. You have yet to back up your claim that people who vote no are "sick in the head".
Hey, if they're going to say something like this, I'm going to take it seriously.
*Shrugs shoulders, and smiles sheepishly*

ok, let's try it this way.
Instead of making eternal torture as an option to punish someone, how about sending them to timeout or something? Or even better, simply forgiving them.
Or whatever, he's supposed to be omniscient, so it should be a snap for him to come up with a better way than eternal torture and suffering for people like Ghandi.

Doesn't that sound like something a loving god would do, rather than allow us to go to hell?

I mean, I have three kids. They can be brats.
When they act up, should I torture them for all eternity, or should I make another form of punishment available?
Which is more loving? Which is evil of the two options?

 

[onemessiah]

No. It is not the role of humans to play God. Simple as that.

Yet so many do when they are judgmental of others and try to force others to adhere to their beliefs.

(not pointing any fingers, just a general observation)