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So tell me Freodin, just what is it about Christians that you think they want to run your life? What would we have you do that is so counter to what you think you should be able to do?
So tell me Freodin, just what is it about Christians that you think they want to run your life? What would we have you do that is so counter to what you think you should be able to do?
Don't drink.
Don't smoke.
Worship 24/7.
Pay 10% of your income to the church.
Don't eat pork.
Don't have sex if you are not married.
If you are married, don't be "perverted".
Control what others do.
Don't be a homosexual.
Don't use drugs.
Exclude people because they follow other religions.
Shall I keep going?
When someone's wife cheats, and their kids get sick, and they lose everything, I suspect that they would look a little higher than to a one legged dead man, even if the guy was brave.If there is one person I look up to, it is Terry Fox.
I love my wife and children. My wife and children love me.
There are many spirits in the world. Maybe when people reveal themselves to God, He will do a little revealing also. In fact He already has, in the bible. People carrying large black umbrellas should not complain about not being able to see stars.Well, when he does reveal himself to me, I will believe in him.
According to many people, god has never revealed himself to them either. And for billions, some other god revealed himself.
Rather than a huge 'to do' list as some requirement for being saved, I think of it more as a simple coming to God and asking. If we make progress in some areas after that, fine. Him living in us is what helps us change. Scruu the rules.Christians do none of these things. It is up to the person and God. Now smoking is bad for health and nothing to do with religion. I am not sure what you mean by worship 24/7. Tithing is something that comes with faith and is up to the individual. Pre-marital sex is considered a sin, you have that one right. Many Christians have had sex prior to marriage. What do you mean by perverted. I guess I don't want to know.Christians don't tell people not to be a homosexual, God does. Drugs are bad for health as well, unless you are talking about weed which is not considered to be bad and can have some benefits to mental health. We don't exclude people, we don't agree with their religion but we don't exclude them and treat them as we wish to be treated ourselves.
Rather than a huge 'to do' list as some requirement for being saved, I think of it more as a simple coming to God and asking. If we make progress in some areas after that, fine. Him living in us is what helps us change. Scruu the rules.
I didn't mention anything about myself in my previous post, and the personal grievances I have with religion and Christianity are thus quite irrelevant.So tell me Freodin, just what is it about Christians that you think they want to run your life? What would we have you do that is so counter to what you think you should be able to do?
ThinkForYourself said:Many Christians believe evolution is true, and is the process God used to create life.
Many Christians also believe that some races are superior to others.
Incidently, AV1611VET's use of the term "Arab Phone" is not racist. The French use the term quite often and here in the UK we call it "Chinese Whispers".
Have you ever thought that unbelief is from you deluding yourself? How do you know that you are so adamant about hating the God of the Bible that you delude yourself into thinking that everyone that believes is deluded?
They wouldn't, especially if they lived with other deluded people who thought they were far from deluded,How would a deluded person know when they are deluded...?
If, as a 60 year old adult, I told you that I still believed in Santa, the Tooth Fairy and leprechauns, would you consider that maybe I had a problem...?
Since I DON'T believe in any of those, am I "deluding myself" in my "unbelief"...?
Do I "hate" Santa because I no longer believe in him...?
Pretty silly isn't it...?
And, while we're on the topic, how do you KNOW that your belief in a god is accurate and not a delusion on your part...? How would a deluded person know when they are deluded...?
Speaking of "delusion," I see consol is back.
Like I said if you have to argue by using things that you know are just children's stories then you are not reflecting your position as an intelligent and reasoned one. Rather you resort to childish nahnahnahnana types of argumentation.
I know I am not deluded for various reasons but the most compelling is a pray being answered that was using a rare event with others being present and a part of it.
Are you a 60 year old adult, if you don't mind me asking?
That unfortunately was all part of your delusion, the truth often hurts.I know I am not deluded for various reasons but the most compelling is a pray being answered that was using a rare event with others being present and a part of it.
When someone's wife cheats, and their kids get sick, and they lose everything, I suspect that they would look a little higher than to a one legged dead man, even if the guy was brave.
There are many spirits in the world. Maybe when people reveal themselves to God, He will do a little revealing also. In fact He already has, in the bible. People carrying large black umbrellas should not complain about not being able to see stars.
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